New Coke ceramic bezel is cooking, patent revealed

[Bakelite]

How come Rolex can do Blue-Green-Grey with Black but need a special patent for Red?

[B2 Stealth]

Hope it comes in 42mm, brushed Oyster bracelet with glidelock--the perfect Rolex!

[kyleg531]

Originally Posted by trout_thumper21

Agree with you on the BLNR. Best GMT color combo in my opinion.

+1 here for modern GMTs (still like 16710 Pepsi)…also feels like a decent candidate to be discontinued. Hard to see the Pepsi going anywhere even with manufacturing challenge rumors swirling.


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[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by B2 Stealth

Hope it comes in 42mm, brushed Oyster bracelet with glidelock--the perfect Rolex!

Hopefully not. The GMT needs to trim down to 5 digit proportions

[Goldilock]

The Coke is likely to come out in a new case similar to the sub41 with narrower lug profiles, and all other gmt models are gonna get that new streamlined case soon.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Hopefully not. The GMT needs to trim down to 5 digit proportions

Agreed. Same with Sub


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[Verdi]

Originally Posted by rockysw

do they really need a patent for every color combination? Or is this some new tech they have designed?

Originally Posted by Bakelite

How come Rolex can do Blue-Green-Grey with Black but need a special patent for Red?

Originally Posted by Bakelite

Would someone describe the specifics, I can’t read or see anything more in the link

Hi,

I am also interested to find our more about it. I reached out to Niccoloy to help us with a link to the document. Here it is, it is an interesting read:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/pate...%3DEP4311820A1

there is a clear reference in the "Description" to red-black bezel:

[0006] More specifically, a first object of the present invention is to propose a solution for manufacturing a ceramic component that makes it possible to obtain a ceramic whose colour is controlled, notably making it possible to obtain a multicoloured, notably two-tone, notably red and black result.



From a quick browsing I gathered that in addition to obtaining the colour combination, the "challenge" is to obtain a monobloc bezel despite having 2 colours. (is the Pepsi bezel made by adding the 2 pieces together?. it seems like they are focused on this aspect too.

The at least two portions of different colours of the component are in monobloc form, made of a one-piece part. In other words, there is no fragile interface or border between these two portions, as would be the case if the two colours were obtained by elements manufactured at least in part separately and assembled subsequently;

In addition, the process makes it possible to obtain a sharp border between the zones of different colours.


Edit: The link displays the French version but it can be changed to English.

[John Doyle]

Great, hope it's released with an updated case that looks more refined like the yachtmaster or daytona.

[jaychief]

Just changed back to Pepsi…..


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[thesharkfactor]

Originally Posted by Verdi

It looks like a new ceramic bezel coke GMT has been cooking for a while.
According to IG @niccoloy, they filed for patent is 2022 and its now public info.


https://www.instagram.com/p/C3KdjBLr...gydTkxYTl6Y25p

Sorry, I’m dumb. Where does it say red black or coke? This figure points at 2 same (daytime) lower half parts of a bezel?

Sorry what?

[Verdi]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Sorry, I’m dumb. Where does it say red black or coke? This figure points at 2 same (daytime) lower half parts of a bezel?

Sorry what?

Don't be sorry. Just click on the link in my previous post. I also posted a little extract with reference to “red and black” .

I hope this helps

[Phil8352]

I’ll bet demand for Pepsi dies down as everybody trips over themselves to have the “next big thing”.

[Bakelite]

Ok, who’s to say this black/red isn’t simply the new disc to be used with the blue layer in blro? Blue over the black half with red left bare.

[Verdi]

Because folks seem to miss the link to the original document, here are a few references:

[Bakelite]

Right. One portion is red and another portion is black. If the disc has a cut away in the black portion’s half the semi blue disc joins to complete the blro.

Your assumption is that the red/black disc is uniform in thickness.

[Verdi]

@bakelite
I don’t claim to know 100% but this is what it looks to me. Feel free to read the patent document and share your opinion.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Verdi

Hi,

I am also interested to find our more about it. I reached out to Niccoloy to help us with a link to the document. Here it is, it is an interesting read:

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/pate...%3DEP4311820A1

there is a clear reference in the "Description" to red-black bezel:

[0006] More specifically, a first object of the present invention is to propose a solution for manufacturing a ceramic component that makes it possible to obtain a ceramic whose colour is controlled, notably making it possible to obtain a multicoloured, notably two-tone, notably red and black result.



From a quick browsing I gathered that in addition to obtaining the colour combination, the "challenge" is to obtain a monobloc bezel despite having 2 colours. (is the Pepsi bezel made by adding the 2 pieces together?. it seems like they are focused on this aspect too.

The at least two portions of different colours of the component are in monobloc form, made of a one-piece part. In other words, there is no fragile interface or border between these two portions, as would be the case if the two colours were obtained by elements manufactured at least in part separately and assembled subsequently;

In addition, the process makes it possible to obtain a sharp border between the zones of different colours.


Edit: The link displays the French version but it can be changed to English.

All Rolex cerachrome bezels are monobloc. Always have been.

That's why the Pepsi isn't vibrant blue and vibrant red.

The blue is added to an all red mix.

PS - Rolex has a whole brochure on it

https://newsroom-content.rolex.com/-...ic_english.pdf

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Verdi

It looks like a new ceramic bezel coke GMT has been cooking for a while.
According to IG @niccoloy, they filed for patent is 2022 and its now public info.


https://www.instagram.com/p/C3KdjBLr...gydTkxYTl6Y25p

I don't think its just about a new "coke" bezel, sorry to disappoint.

If you go to this page,

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/pate...%3DEP4311820A1

Which is what patent is being claimed, translate it to English, it references green (not red) Which woud tie in with the Green/Black bezel VTNR


1. Process for manufacturing a ceramic watch component, characterized in that it comprises the following steps:

- Manufacture an intermediate component (E1) in the form of a green body based on ceriated zirconia,

- Debind (E2) totally or partially the intermediate component to obtain a debinded intermediate component;

- Impregnate (E3) locally the debinded intermediate component with at least one solution comprising at least one metal salt, from only part of its surface, to obtain an impregnated debinded intermediate component;

- Sinter and heat treat (E4) the debinded intermediate component impregnated by at least one heat treatment step under a reducing atmosphere (E42; E41').



The claims tree tab does indicate red/black as you have posted, however, which may be an update. Perhaps a European patent expert could comment?

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by thesharkfactor

Sorry, I’m dumb. Where does it say red black or coke? This figure points at 2 same (daytime) lower half parts of a bezel?

Sorry what?

If you go to the claims tab, the patent is for a VTNR

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/pate...%3DEP4311820A1

Green/black. The date (2022) makes sense too

The red/black may be an addition as at the publication date of Jan 24, but the original 2022 application was for geen/black

[Norbert]

Either way, I can't wait to see what it'll actually look like.

[ndane]

Very cool! Curious what the red will look like on this.

[GrailTime]

You call it the Coke.

I call it the Manchester United!

[Rolex1982]

Originally Posted by ndane

Very cool! Curious what the red will look like on this.

Purple

[Sebenza]

Originally Posted by RTG

Have read coke rumors on TRF since years before I joined. Wouldn’t hold my breath.

Pepsi tastes like crap IMO, and that’s just one reason I prefer coke. Back when the SS BLRO was released, this forum wanted pepsi over coke by eight to one. I know, because I was one of the one’s. Not sure a new coke release would be more popular than the SS BLRO… I get chasing what’s new, just don’t see it having the legs of the BLRO. And really, how many GMT options does Rolex want to offer? They have a bunch already. My guess is coke headlines the next gen GMT and that it’s a few years out.

I remember when the WG BLRO was released. People absolutely hated the colors and talked so much smack about it. Once it was released in SS, it was suddenly the best thing since sliced bread. Funny how that works.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Devildog

All Rolex cerachrome bezels are monobloc. Always have been.

That's why the Pepsi isn't vibrant blue and vibrant red.

The blue is added to an all red mix.

PS - Rolex has a whole brochure on it

https://newsroom-content.rolex.com/-...ic_english.pdf

That's the PDF I was referring to in my first post. It's a really good read. Thank you for supplying the link.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by jaychief

Just changed back to Pepsi…..

[Bakelite]

Originally Posted by Sebenza

I remember when the WG BLRO was released. People absolutely hated the colors and talked so much smack about it. Once it was released in SS, it was suddenly the best thing since sliced bread. Funny how that works.

Very bitter sounding. Watches are joyful.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by Sebenza

I remember when the WG BLRO was released. People absolutely hated the colors and talked so much smack about it. Once it was released in SS, it was suddenly the best thing since sliced bread. Funny how that works.

On the first release the colors were so light they were pastel pink and purple. Over the years, the colors have vastly improved.

[Travis29]

Originally Posted by trout_thumper21

Agree with you on the BLNR. Best GMT color combo in my opinion.

+1..

Still lusting over a Pepsi

[Bakelite]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

On the first release the colors were so light they were pastel pink and purple. Over the years, the colors have vastly improved.

To your eye.