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Kokyuryoku · 7 December 2009, 12:31 AM

What do you guys think? Does it look OK? Bear in mind that it is 43 years old.

Kokyuryoku · 7 December 2009, 01:35 PM

Any thoughts guys?

I think the bracelet looks good for it's age. The watch is from around 1966. But I'm wondering about what the marks are on the outer edges of the dial from the 1 o'clock position to the 11 o'clock position.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Andad · 7 December 2009, 01:47 PM

Nice old DJ.

You don't say if it has been opened and checked out lately.

Colud be some moisture has got in at some time and has discoloured the edge of the dial?

Kokyuryoku · 7 December 2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

Nice old DJ.

You don't say if it has been opened and checked out lately.

Colud be some moisture has got in at some time and has discoloured the edge of the dial?

The seller has told me that it had a service 18 months ago (not RSC) and the hair spring and seals were replaced. It was also pressure tested. He does state that the second hand has a slight stagger from 12 to 4, but it still keeps relatively good time +3 seconds/day.

Is a slight stagger normal for a watch of this age?

BASSETHOUNDS · 7 December 2009, 06:14 PM

Well as it wasn't RSC its possible , otherwise I presume the dented case back would have been replaced . If anything the watch seems genuine and "in keeping" with its age , but no way of knowing how it really looks , moisture as mentioned above by Eddie is a distinct possibility

mcjp6 · 7 December 2009, 08:40 PM

IMO it looks OK, nice pie pan dial 1603???

Kokyuryoku · 7 December 2009, 11:36 PM

I just checked with the seller. The dial is free from any discolouration. The marks are actually a reflection of the camera on the edge of the crystal

Kokyuryoku · 7 December 2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

IMO it looks OK, nice pie pan dial 1603???

What makes it a pie pan?

I've read this term quiet a bit recently looking at other 1601s for comparison.

idk01 · 7 December 2009, 11:57 PM

Buddy Ryan,

That watch looks good

Kokyuryoku · 8 December 2009, 12:21 AM

Thanks guys! Well I just made the seller an offer. Fingers crossed.

idk01 · 8 December 2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokyuryoku

Thanks guys! Well I just made the seller an offer. Fingers crossed.

Excellent, you know the drill Ryan, Photos when it arrives

Kokyuryoku · 8 December 2009, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

Buddy Ryan,

That watch looks good

That means a lot coming from one of the WatchOut gurus

glocati · 8 December 2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kokyuryoku

What makes it a pie pan?

I've read this term quiet a bit recently looking at other 1601s for comparison.

Koyuryoku, Pie Pan is a term that essentially says the dial is not flat but shaped more like a pie pan. If you look, the dial curves down at the outer edge. This type of dial was used in early Datejusts 1600 1601, 1603, etc.

Looks like a pretty nice example of a 1601. AS an FYI, the 1601 has the white gold fluted bezel, the 1603 has the stainless coin edge bezel.

Hope you work out a good deal on it. Greg

Kokyuryoku · 8 December 2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glocati

Koyuryoku, Pie Pan is a term that essentially says the dial is not flat but shaped more like a pie pan. If you look, the dial curves down at the outer edge. This type of dial was used in early Datejusts 1600 1601, 1603, etc.

Looks like a pretty nice example of a 1601. AS an FYI, the 1601 has the white gold fluted bezel, the 1603 has the stainless coin edge bezel.

Hope you work out a good deal on it. Greg

Thanks for the information Greg

,

I just sent the funds today, so I should be getting it sometime at the end of the week

I'm thinking about getting a nice black leather strap for it. What do you think?

Czechman · 8 December 2009, 09:57 PM

I think it's your watch now and you should do whatever makes you happy, but I'd give the Jubilee a chance, ironically stretched ones are quite comfortable. Your call.

Kokyuryoku · 9 December 2009, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czechman

I think it's your watch now and you should do whatever makes you happy, but I'd give the Jubilee a chance, ironically stretched ones are quite comfortable. Your call.

Good point.

I tried on a couple of similar watches last week and they were very comfortable.

glocati · 9 December 2009, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czechman

I think it's your watch now and you should do whatever makes you happy, but I'd give the Jubilee a chance, ironically stretched ones are quite comfortable. Your call.

So true...Jubilees do wear quite comfortably. On the other hand, the vintage Datejusts look great on straps. Personally, I would get the strap and swap them out occasionally. Either way, it is a great looking 1601.

Congrats on the purchase.

JohnBoy · 9 December 2009, 11:50 AM

A very nice, clean watch! Only advice I might offer re. an older 1601 is a quick check on the jubilee, look for any weak/worn/damaged links and pay special attention to the pins in the clasp. I had a worn clasp pin on my NQS DJ come loose when driving - all by gravity, slipped down my sleeve (duh! whats this?). Worm jubilee is very smooth and comfortable as everyone reports. The black strap looks great too! Best wishes, man!

springer · 9 December 2009, 01:57 PM

...

looks like the real deal.

RolexPete · 30 December 2009, 12:28 AM

Do you mind if I ask what you paid for it?

Kokyuryoku · 30 December 2009, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PLamarine

Do you mind if I ask what you paid for it?

No problem. I paid $1000

7 December 2009, 12:31 AM	#1
Kokyuryoku "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Rye Location: Japan Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,156	Datejust 1601 What do you guys think? Does it look OK? Bear in mind that it is 43 years old. Attached Images __________________ 'The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited'*- Morihei Ueshiba -* Omega 3570.50 (77mil) Rolex 16610 (V) Rolex 1601 (1966) Seiko BM Last edited by Kokyuryoku; 7 December 2009 at 12:47 AM.. Reason: Forgot to add photos

7 December 2009, 01:35 PM	#2
Kokyuryoku "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Rye Location: Japan Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,156	Any thoughts guys? I think the bracelet looks good for it's age. The watch is from around 1966. But I'm wondering about what the marks are on the outer edges of the dial from the 1 o'clock position to the 11 o'clock position. Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers __________________ 'The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited'*- Morihei Ueshiba -* Omega 3570.50 (77mil) Rolex 16610 (V) Rolex 1601 (1966) Seiko BM

7 December 2009, 01:47 PM	#3
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,528	Nice old DJ. You don't say if it has been opened and checked out lately. Colud be some moisture has got in at some time and has discoloured the edge of the dial? __________________ E

7 December 2009, 11:36 PM	#7
Kokyuryoku "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Rye Location: Japan Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,156	I just checked with the seller. The dial is free from any discolouration. The marks are actually a reflection of the camera on the edge of the crystal __________________ 'The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited'*- Morihei Ueshiba -* Omega 3570.50 (77mil) Rolex 16610 (V) Rolex 1601 (1966) Seiko BM

7 December 2009, 11:57 PM	#9
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Buddy Ryan, That watch looks good __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

7 December 2009, 06:14 PM	#5
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Well as it wasn't RSC its possible , otherwise I presume the dented case back would have been replaced . If anything the watch seems genuine and "in keeping" with its age , but no way of knowing how it really looks , moisture as mentioned above by Eddie is a distinct possibility

7 December 2009, 08:40 PM	#6
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	IMO it looks OK, nice pie pan dial 1603???

8 December 2009, 12:21 AM	#10
Kokyuryoku "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Rye Location: Japan Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,156	Thanks guys! Well I just made the seller an offer. Fingers crossed. __________________ 'The Way of a Warrior is based on humanity, love, and sincerity; the heart of martial valor is true bravery, wisdom, love, and friendship. Emphasis on the physical aspects of warriorship is futile, for the power of the body is always limited'*- Morihei Ueshiba -* Omega 3570.50 (77mil) Rolex 16610 (V) Rolex 1601 (1966) Seiko BM

8 December 2009, 09:57 PM	#15
Czechman "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Watch: See my signature Posts: 1,189	I think it's your watch now and you should do whatever makes you happy, but I'd give the Jubilee a chance, ironically stretched ones are quite comfortable. Your call. __________________ "Woody and Jen say hey from North Kakalaki" 19019, 19018x3, 17000x2, 16570x2, 16220, 5700, 1501, 6564, 16030, 16710, 16610

9 December 2009, 11:50 AM	#18
JohnBoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: John Location: Seattle, WA USA Watch: Rolex - a few! Posts: 1,472	A very nice, clean watch! Only advice I might offer re. an older 1601 is a quick check on the jubilee, look for any weak/worn/damaged links and pay special attention to the pins in the clasp. I had a worn clasp pin on my NQS DJ come loose when driving - all by gravity, slipped down my sleeve (duh! whats this?). Worm jubilee is very smooth and comfortable as everyone reports. The black strap looks great too! Best wishes, man!

9 December 2009, 01:57 PM	#19
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	... looks like the real deal. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

30 December 2009, 12:28 AM	#20
RolexPete "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Massachusetts Watch: 214270 Mk2 Posts: 1,963	Do you mind if I ask what you paid for it?

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