GMT IIC serial

[ahmadashmawy]

Have any body seen a new GMT II C with the new serial system
cos I went Today to an AD and she showed me the GMT IIC and as I was trin it out and checking it I saw that the SERIAL number started with V and I asked her if she had an 2010 model and she told me that this watch just came last week and when i told her it was a V she said that no such thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so does the GMT 2010 CONTIUE WITH SERIAL V ??????

[JUSTROLEXES]

my friend,
All the models should start seeing the new serial... it does start at certain models then it will be all.

[hennabav]

You should see the new serials popping up on more and more models soon!!

[esm]

picked up a new GMTIIC yesterday with a V serial number...

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

Have any body seen a new GMT II C with the new serial system
cos I went Today to an AD and she showed me the GMT IIC and as I was trin it out and checking it I saw that the SERIAL number started with V and I asked her if she had an 2010 model and she told me that this watch just came last week and when i told her it was a V she said that no such thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so does the GMT 2010 CONTIUE WITH SERIAL V ??????

No problems. I got my latest SS Sub-date with V-878XXX and I bought it just 2 months ago.

JJ

[cakim]

Yeap! GMT IIC V Series on display in Harrods. Had it in my hands last week. Very nice watch!!

[The Waddler]

Mine's a V. Jan 2010. V46****. And hi by the way, I keep meaning to do an introductory thread as me finally getting my hands on my GMT is a good story but I want to take some pics with it.

Anyway.....

[bayerische]

I bought my DSSD in march and it has a V serial.

[learningtofly]

(Courtesy of the one and only harb...)

It also seems that the actual date of manufacture can be determined by the code that's on the clasp. These codes indicate when the watch was assembled at the Rolex factory so you can actually ascertain whether a V serial is '09 or not!

O = 1990
P = 1991
Q = 1992
R = 1993
S or T = 1994
W or T = 1995
V = 1996
Z = 1997
X = 1999
AB = 2000
DE = 2001
DT = 2002
AD = 2003
CL = 2004
MA = 2005
OP = 2006
EO = 2007
EO = 2007
PJ = 2008
PL or LT = 2009


The number behind the letter(s) seems to be the month the clasp was produced. So, for example, CL2 would be February 2004

If there is an "S" in front of the code then your clasp was changed on a "S"ervice.

[The Waddler]

The code on my clasp says OP9

I'm confused

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

Have any body seen a new GMT II C with the new serial system
cos I went Today to an AD and she showed me the GMT IIC and as I was trin it out and checking it I saw that the SERIAL number started with V and I asked her if she had an 2010 model and she told me that this watch just came last week and when i told her it was a V she said that no such thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so does the GMT 2010 CONTIUE WITH SERIAL V ??????

Lets get thinks straight the V is just a case date stamp a approximation when a case was stamped.And now on certain models rolex has introduced a new way of random letters with the serial. So if will be almost impossible to tell when a case was stamped then matched up with a movement then finally shipped to AD for sale.So as they run out of V stamped cases the new random ones will come into force.But with the case letters the movements could be older or newer or visa versa in a fully assembled watch.

[learningtofly]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

The code on my clasp says OP9

I'm confused

Assembled in September 2006. Make sense?

(For example, my Sub says PJ8, i.e. August 2008. That would make it about right for a watch that was actually sold by an AD in February 09.)

[The Waddler]

Originally Posted by learningtofly

Assembled in September 2006. Make sense?

(For example, my Sub says PJ8, i.e. August 2008. That would make it about right for a watch that was actually sold by an AD in February 09.)

That bit does, but it has a V serial and was sold as a jan 2010 model. Was it just put together with a 2006 clasp?

[learningtofly]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

That bit does, but it has a V serial and was sold as a jan 2010 model. Was it just put together with a 2006 clasp?

That is confusing, and I'm not sure what the answer is. Maybe someone else can offer a suggestion?

[The Waddler]

Originally Posted by learningtofly

That is confusing, and I'm not sure what the answer is. Maybe someone else can offer a suggestion?

Ok, thanks for your replies, now I'm getting worried....

Anyone?

[learningtofly]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

Ok, thanks for your replies, now I'm getting worried....

Anyone?

You have mail.

[The Waddler]

Originally Posted by learningtofly

You have mail.

Replied. You're a gent, thanks Tony

[The Waddler]

Just to apologise for hijacking the thread....

....and I'm still no closer to an answer to this anomoly so Tools, JJ et al, if you're out there......please Heeeeeellllllllllllpppppppppp!!!!!!!

[InVision]

To get things back on track, I have not seen a new GMT IIc with the new numbers yet.

Mike

[Rolex Jack]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

Have any body seen a new GMT II C with the new serial system
cos I went Today to an AD and she showed me the GMT IIC and as I was trin it out and checking it I saw that the SERIAL number started with V and I asked her if she had an 2010 model and she told me that this watch just came last week and when i told her it was a V she said that no such thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so does the GMT 2010 CONTIUE WITH SERIAL V ??????

I bought a new Sub in Gold 8 weeks ago in April 2010, with a Serial No. V0538xxx and also a PJ6 on the clasp.

As I understand, the PJ 6 is June 2008 manufacture of the Clasp... and V is 2008 manufacture of the watch.

I think that the reason that these V Models are still being sold in 2010 is just an indication that supply is a couple years ahead of demand.

Below is a Serial by year chart.

Kindest regards,
Jack.

X-N 1991 - 1993
C 1992 – 1993
S 1993 - 1994
W 1994 - 1996
T 1996 - 1997
U 1997 - 1998
U 1998
A 1998 – 1999
P 1999 - 2000
K Series (intro mid-2001) 2001- 2002
Y Series (intro mid-2002) 2002 - 2003
F Series 2003
D April 2005
Z May 2006
M October 2007
V August 2008

[ahmadashmawy]

Originally Posted by cakim

Yeap! GMT IIC V Series on display in Harrods. Had it in my hands last week. Very nice watch!!

so your serial starts eith V then what is the first number , i mean is it v9****
which means that they are at the end of series or v4**** still in begining

[ahmadashmawy]

Originally Posted by padi56

Lets get thinks straight the V is just a case date stamp a approximation when a case was stamped.And now on certain models rolex has introduced a new way of random letters with the serial. So if will be almost impossible to tell when a case was stamped then matched up with a movement then finally shipped to AD for sale.So as they run out of V stamped cases the new random ones will come into force.But with the case letters the movements could be older or newer or visa versa in a fully assembled watch.

I got your point you but I think that the newer (production wise not inovation) movment will go with the newer case

[ahmadashmawy]

Originally Posted by InVision

To get things back on track, I have not seen a new GMT IIc with the new numbers yet.

Mike

Thanks Mike That was main question did anyone see any out there with new serials

[padi56]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

I got your point you but I think that the newer (production wise not inovation) movment will go with the newer case

Not when you consider movements like the Cal 3135 must be thousands sitting in racks ready to be cased. Plus the ones at the COSC for testing and returning from testing.Plus the many failed ones returned to Rolex to be re-oiled re-timed and sent back to the COSC for re-testing.Same for bracelets like the Oyster made by the thousands. So even those date codes are only a approximation for when a watch watch fully assembled for sale. And watch cases and bracelet clasps are not perishable, and have the same warrranty when bought new know matter when they were stamped..

[DAVIDSW]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

Thanks Mike That was main question did anyone see any out there with new serials

YES. The 116710LN models have been shipped with the new serial

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by The Waddler

That bit does, but it has a V serial and was sold as a jan 2010 model. Was it just put together with a 2006 clasp?

Well, I do find that rather strange and cockeyed that Rolex would slap on a Sept. 2006 (OP9) clasp on a new V-series watch.

My new V Sub has a clasp marked LT6 (June 2009) which is acceptable, but going back 4 years on a new watch is odd.

JJ

[padi56]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, I do find that rather strange and cockeyed that Rolex would slap on a Sept. 2006 (OP9) clasp on a new V-series watch.

My new V Sub has a clasp marked LT6 (June 2009) which is acceptable, but going back 4 years on a new watch is odd.

JJ

And what difference would a bracelet clasp date make to the clasp its the same clasp thats been around for ten plus years.And the same s.steel its a clasp, nothing more nothing less, and no different from any other s.steel oyster bracelet or clasp, except for a few letters and numbers.So what you are saying JJ, you would not buy a Rolex watch, if the clasp although bought new from AD was perhaps by a few letters and numbers deemed to be a few years old.

[ayres]

Originally Posted by ahmadashmawy

Have any body seen a new GMT II C with the new serial system
cos I went Today to an AD and she showed me the GMT IIC and as I was trin it out and checking it I saw that the SERIAL number started with V and I asked her if she had an 2010 model and she told me that this watch just came last week and when i told her it was a V she said that no such thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so does the GMT 2010 CONTIUE WITH SERIAL V ??????

there are no models by year... and given rolex's consistency, it should not really matter which letter of the alphabet you have.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by padi56

And what difference would a bracelet clasp date make to the clasp its the same clasp thats been around for ten plus years.And the same s.steel its a clasp, nothing more nothing less, and no different from any other s.steel oyster bracelet or clasp, except for a few letters and numbers.So what you are saying JJ, you would not buy a Rolex watch, if the clasp although bought new from AD was perhaps by a few letters and numbers deemed to be a few years old.

I'm NOT saying that, Peter.

Just that I have had the opportunity to check out many of the new models and have always found the clasp date manufacture pretty close to the watch date manufacture.

So, in this case, the difference in years is pretty significant..............and that's what surprised me, that's all.

JJ

[Jim232118]

I just bought a GMT II ceramic last week and the serial is Z. I asked the AD if he had a newer one and he said they just go that one in April and showed me the shipping ticket. I am not sure how that came about.