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Old 10 August 2010, 05:40 PM   #1
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Pls help identifying this rolex? Never seen one like this...

I've been looking for the perfect Rolex and in my head, I've had a datejust / oyster with a red seconds hand, just don't know if it actually existed (other than the turn-o-graph).

Then I found this!

http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!BqzGr7!BWk~$%28KGrHqUH-C0EuZZZiR8QBLw7oZ3n%29w~~_12.JPG

According the the seller, the dial has been refurbished and the strap is new, which could indicate this watch may be original but heavily modded?

I've also been advised it's a fake but can anyone else here shed some light?
Second opinions? Third opinions?
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Old 10 August 2010, 10:52 PM   #2
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I have no knowledge whatsoever on vintage rolexes but I'd say that crown and case looks a bit shady doesn't seem to be rolex style at all. But then again at least half the watches on ebay are fakes
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Old 11 August 2010, 01:18 AM   #3
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Some one will be along shorty to help you out - I've never seen a vintage like that with a red second hand. Could be an add on, could be a fake or it could be the most popular vintage model there is and I just don't know what I'm talking about lol
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Old 11 August 2010, 01:42 AM   #4
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Why don't you try posting in the watchout section? The guys over there seem to have lots of knowledge on picking out fakes
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Old 11 August 2010, 02:11 AM   #5
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It's not impossible, I've seen blue too

Look at this :


http://www.bubblebackclub.com/pub_pr...ories_cat_id=4

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Old 11 August 2010, 02:23 AM   #6
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It's not impossible, I've seen blue too

Look at this :


http://www.bubblebackclub.com/pub_pr...ories_cat_id=4

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Old 11 August 2010, 02:36 AM   #7
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Pleasure to do so!!

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Old 12 August 2010, 01:26 PM   #8
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Pleasure to do so!!

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So I emailed the seller and this is what I found out:

The model is: 6084.
The serial is: 851822, dating the watch to the 1950's.
The case-back has the number 6518, and the movement has two numbers: F 80062 and 95902


Does this sound about right to you guys? Why would the movement have two numbers? And why is the caseback number different from the model number?
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Old 12 August 2010, 02:00 PM   #9
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Second hand is certainly not original and as you pointed out the case-back belongs to a different watch. I'm not sure on the movement questions, though.
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Old 12 August 2010, 02:01 PM   #10
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Hello and welcome! To be honest with you the dial looks a little off I have never seen hour markers or a red second hand like the ones in the picture. If you can try stoping by the "For Sale" section on the Fourm there are many trusted sellers there.
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