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Old 18 September 2010, 04:28 PM   #1
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New to the forum, and my first rolex....

Hello all, I have been collecting watches for three years now...over 40 bought or sold of just about every swiss brand. Panerai, chopard, sinn, omega, breitling, ulysse nardin, hamilton, tissot, oris, ocean7, longines, ball, kobald, glycine, and now...rolex!

My first thought after buying my new 11640gv was, what the heck took me so long!!!

This is one beautiful timepiece.

I have two questions for you all out there.

1st, do you guys think that this model will ever appreciate as a collector piece in 10+ years as the older milgauss did?

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2nd, i have had it two days from the AD and just timed it. Its running a crazy 20 plus seconds fast a day!!! Should i be comfortable having them send it to rolex for a fixing or...demand another GV?
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Old 18 September 2010, 04:31 PM   #2
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Welcome to the Forum and the GV club.

One of the best looking watches that Rolex makes IMO.

Give it a full wind and wear it for a week. Check the accuracy using the same web time site. If it is running fast by 20 seconds/day I would have it checked as that is too far from COSC for me.

It would have left Rolex at better than +4/-4 IMO.

My GV has run at +1.5 to +2 since I got it.
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Old 18 September 2010, 04:42 PM   #3
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Old 18 September 2010, 06:25 PM   #4
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Welcome to the Forum and the GV club.

One of the best looking watches that Rolex makes IMO.

Give it a full wind and wear it for a week. Check the accuracy using the same web time site. If it is running fast by 20 seconds/day I would have it checked as that is too far from COSC for me.

It would have left Rolex at better than +4/-4 IMO.

My GV has run at +1.5 to +2 since I got it.
Agree give it at least a week and see how things go.

Welcome to the Forum, Congrats on the Watch.
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Old 18 September 2010, 07:09 PM   #5
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Congrats on your GV!!

20 sec a day is too much but I wouldn't be so fast to send it away just yet. Make sure you wind it fully and wear it for a bit. Sometimes a watch just needs to "settle in". GV is a beauty, i've always loved that one
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Old 18 September 2010, 07:27 PM   #6
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Hello all, I have been collecting watches for three years now...over 40 bought or sold of just about every swiss brand. Panerai, chopard, sinn, omega, breitling, ulysse nardin, hamilton, tissot, oris, ocean7, longines, ball, kobald, glycine, and now...rolex!

My first thought after buying my new 11640gv was, what the heck took me so long!!!

This is one beautiful timepiece.

I have two questions for you all out there.

1st, do you guys think that this model will ever appreciate as a collector piece in 10+ years as the older milgauss did?

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2nd, i have had it two days from the AD and just timed it. Its running a crazy 20 plus seconds fast a day!!! Should i be comfortable having them send it to rolex for a fixing or...demand another GV?
Thanks
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First welcome to TRF did you give your watch a full manual wind 40 full crown turns clockwise to start your watch ?.In the world of mechanics, anything assembled of small parts gears cogs etc which are capable of maintaining 99% accuracy would be considered a very top end piece of machinery.Now when you think of your Rolex chronometer watch with a average accuracy of 99.995% IMHO thats a marvel.Accuracy is dependant on a quite few different variables,such as gravity the main one to over come, some watches might gain or loose more time if laid to rest in a single position. The Rolex balance wheel has been adjusted to compensate for losses and gains in different positions. A well adjusted Rolex watch should perform overall within the cosc specification when worn throughout the day too a AVERAGE -4 to + 6 over 24 hours. If you remove your watch at night you may want to find the best position that will compensate for any beat drift while at rest.Temperature plus the working environment may have an impact on how accurate any watch operates. Temperature changes expand and contract many of the movement parts, changing the dimension and shapes - especially the balance wheel and hairspring. Today in modern Rolex watches most materials are designed to compensate for the changes and maintain a consistent beat rate. But this is generally not a problem unless the watch is constantly used in extreme weather environments and then if out of COSC spec could be corrected by very simple regulation for those extreme conditions.


It is important to understand that a new watch off the shelf may need a break-in period of a month or so to settle in.Now this allows the watch to find its true beat rate and distribute the oils evenly around the moving parts. If you find your watch not to be as accurate as you would expect after the break-in period, there are generally two courses of action to take to increase the accuracy, both very minor in nature,but require any good competent watchmaker to do it.Now if your watch runs consistently too fast or too slow remember the keyword being consistent.say + or - 10 seconds The solution for the watchmaker would be to regulate the true beat rate accordingly plus or minus on the timing machine.Now this is a very simple and quick procedure achieved by turning Microstella adjustment nuts.And with the use of a time-measuring machinery a good watchmaker can accomplish this in a matter of minutes I just cannot understand why they send watches back to the RSC for such a simple task. Regulating is most probably one of the most common tasks for any watchmaker to do.Now when a watch is fast or slow or does not have a consistent rate, especially in different positions.Then the balance wheel needs to be adjusted further to compensate for the different positions. Although this too is a simple procedure, it does require a little more time to correct as each position needs to be monitored and adjusted carefully.But don't be in a hurry to get the back off for a few seconds either way its not life threatening to be a few seconds off COSC spec.And and will add I would doubt if any modern day Rolex will ever meet the prices of any vintage watch,just too many of them around.
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Old 18 September 2010, 08:02 PM   #7
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Great advice and feedback above!

Welcome to trf ....and to a fantastic watch!
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Old 18 September 2010, 09:34 PM   #8
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First welcome to TRF did you give your watch a full manual wind 40 full crown turns clockwise to start your watch ?.In the world of mechanics, anything assembled of small parts gears cogs etc which are capable of maintaining 99% accuracy would be considered a very top end piece of machinery.Now when you think of your Rolex chronometer watch with a average accuracy of 99.995% IMHO thats a marvel.Accuracy is dependant on a quite few different variables,such as gravity the main one to over come, some watches might gain or loose more time if laid to rest in a single position. The Rolex balance wheel has been adjusted to compensate for losses and gains in different positions. A well adjusted Rolex watch should perform overall within the cosc specification when worn throughout the day too a AVERAGE -4 to + 6 over 24 hours. If you remove your watch at night you may want to find the best position that will compensate for any beat drift while at rest.Temperature plus the working environment may have an impact on how accurate any watch operates. Temperature changes expand and contract many of the movement parts, changing the dimension and shapes - especially the balance wheel and hairspring. Today in modern Rolex watches most materials are designed to compensate for the changes and maintain a consistent beat rate. But this is generally not a problem unless the watch is constantly used in extreme weather environments and then if out of COSC spec could be corrected by very simple regulation for those extreme conditions.


It is important to understand that a new watch off the shelf may need a break-in period of a month or so to settle in.Now this allows the watch to find its true beat rate and distribute the oils evenly around the moving parts. If you find your watch not to be as accurate as you would expect after the break-in period, there are generally two courses of action to take to increase the accuracy, both very minor in nature,but require any good competent watchmaker to do it.Now if your watch runs consistently too fast or too slow remember the keyword being consistent.say + or - 10 seconds The solution for the watchmaker would be to regulate the true beat rate accordingly plus or minus on the timing machine.Now this is a very simple and quick procedure achieved by turning Microstella adjustment nuts.And with the use of a time-measuring machinery a good watchmaker can accomplish this in a matter of minutes I just cannot understand why they send watches back to the RSC for such a simple task. Regulating is most probably one of the most common tasks for any watchmaker to do.Now when a watch is fast or slow or does not have a consistent rate, especially in different positions.Then the balance wheel needs to be adjusted further to compensate for the different positions. Although this too is a simple procedure, it does require a little more time to correct as each position needs to be monitored and adjusted carefully.But don't be in a hurry to get the back off for a few seconds either way its not life threatening to be a few seconds off COSC spec.And and will add I would doubt if any modern day Rolex will ever meet the prices of any vintage watch,just too many of them around.


excellent advise !! my watch did loose a lot when i got it, within a month did settle down and now has lost just over 12 seconds in 2 1/2 weeks.



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Old 18 September 2010, 10:06 PM   #9
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Welcome. The watch is running way to fast.
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Old 18 September 2010, 10:15 PM   #10
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Old 18 September 2010, 10:21 PM   #11
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Old 18 September 2010, 10:25 PM   #12
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Old 18 September 2010, 10:26 PM   #13
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Old 18 September 2010, 10:38 PM   #14
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Old 19 September 2010, 03:03 PM   #17
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Thanks for the welcome all, and the advice.
It is now running fast at two seconds a day. I dont know what i did to make it run twenty but honest, it was :-)
Im gonna keep an eye on it though instead of running to my ad for now.
Ever find yourself look at your watch for the time and not even know what time it was when you look away?
I seem to be doing that alot with this one!!!
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Old 20 September 2010, 03:09 AM   #18
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Its official, shes doing 2 seconds fast per day. I must have done somerhing wrong when i checked it.
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