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rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 03:30 AM

My local AD has for sale a 5513, no date. He can't put an exact date on it but says late 60's . It's been serviced by rolex with new acrylic crystal,and dial. He's asking 4k price negotiable. What are these selling for ,is that a good price? Does the service lower or raise the value? Thanks for any help

Clay · 21 October 2010, 03:33 AM

what is the serial number???
Is the dial a service gloss dial replacement??

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 03:42 AM

6744623, he just said the dial was a new acrylic dial from rolex. Thanks for the help clay

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 04:31 AM

Looking at the 6 million serial number, I think that dates it to early 80's . Does that seem Right?

SLS · 21 October 2010, 05:15 AM

You are correct, 6.7 is the early 80's....and should come with a matte dial. The luminova dial, if that is indeed what is on the watch, is a service replacement with hurts the overall value. The watch is no longer "all original" so 4K is an OK price, and on the high side IMO. I may offer a little under and see what he says. Does it come with anything? Box, papers or service papers?
Scott

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 05:38 AM

No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?

Clay · 21 October 2010, 05:41 AM

I think I would walk away...There is no shortage of nice 5513's out there....

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 05:59 AM

..the real question is how do guys buy and sell so many vintage watches? I can't figure out how they make any money doing that.

kyle L · 21 October 2010, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rangel23

No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?

I don't think that would make it "original", original for me means the way it came out of the factory.

rangel23 · 21 October 2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

I don't think that would make it "original", original for me means the way it came out of the factory.

Your right, I have the same feelings, if you can't tell if it's been put together or completely original..it would command the same price and buyers would never know the difference. I don't know what sellers do though??

kyle L · 21 October 2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rangel23

Your right, I have the same feelings, if you can't tell if it's been put together or completely original..it would command the same price and buyers would never know the difference. I don't know what sellers do though??

Usually a trusted seller will tell you what has been replaced or if it's all original.

Tools · 21 October 2010, 08:28 AM

If the 5513 was serviced by Rolex, then it would have a proper service replacement dial on it........ You did say that this is at an AD, right....

I would check to ensure that the bracelet has little wear (it too may have been replaced at service), negotiate a little bit, then buy it.......

The thing about 5513's is that they will never be made again. Also eventually, all will need a service dial, some just sooner than others...

If you want a little bit of Rolex history, and one of the icons in the watch world............ go for it......

imono · 21 October 2010, 01:28 PM

I'd sooner buy this one than the one for sale by any high end jewelery store.
If it serviced and done by Rolex it is still Rolex.
If you factor in the cost of service and replacement dial the $4K price tag is not so bad.

Clay · 21 October 2010, 01:57 PM

any chance of getting a picture???

johnbeth · 21 October 2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

If the 5513 was serviced by Rolex, then it would have a proper service replacement dial on it........ You did say that this is at an AD, right....

I would check to ensure that the bracelet has little wear (it too may have been replaced at service), negotiate a little bit, then buy it.......

The thing about 5513's is that they will never be made again. Also eventually, all will need a service dial, some just sooner than others...

If you want a little bit of Rolex history, and one of the icons in the watch world............ go for it......

Excellent advice!

PhilM · 21 October 2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay

any chance of getting a picture???

x2

The 5513 is one of my favourites

rangel23 · 22 October 2010, 04:53 AM

Really no chance of a picture, sorry guys. It's a 5513, he got on a trade-in. The watch got a new band and dial. It looks almost new.

21 October 2010, 03:30 AM	#1
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	Vintage sub question My local AD has for sale a 5513, no date. He can't put an exact date on it but says late 60's . It's been serviced by rolex with new acrylic crystal,and dial. He's asking 4k price negotiable. What are these selling for ,is that a good price? Does the service lower or raise the value? Thanks for any help

21 October 2010, 05:15 AM	#5
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	You are correct, 6.7 is the early 80's....and should come with a matte dial. The luminova dial, if that is indeed what is on the watch, is a service replacement with hurts the overall value. The watch is no longer "all original" so 4K is an OK price, and on the high side IMO. I may offer a little under and see what he says. Does it come with anything? Box, papers or service papers? Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

21 October 2010, 08:28 AM	#12
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	If the 5513 was serviced by Rolex, then it would have a proper service replacement dial on it........ You did say that this is at an AD, right.... I would check to ensure that the bracelet has little wear (it too may have been replaced at service), negotiate a little bit, then buy it....... The thing about 5513's is that they will never be made again. Also eventually, all will need a service dial, some just sooner than others... If you want a little bit of Rolex history, and one of the icons in the watch world............ go for it...... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

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21 October 2010, 03:33 AM	#2
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	what is the serial number??? Is the dial a service gloss dial replacement??

21 October 2010, 03:42 AM	#3
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	6744623, he just said the dial was a new acrylic dial from rolex. Thanks for the help clay

21 October 2010, 04:31 AM	#4
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	Looking at the 6 million serial number, I think that dates it to early 80's . Does that seem Right?

21 October 2010, 05:38 AM	#6
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	No box or papers, could you buy a vintage dial, etc and make it " original" is that what alot of these watches being sold are?

21 October 2010, 05:41 AM	#7
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	I think I would walk away...There is no shortage of nice 5513's out there....

21 October 2010, 05:59 AM	#8
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	..the real question is how do guys buy and sell so many vintage watches? I can't figure out how they make any money doing that.

21 October 2010, 01:28 PM	#13
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	I'd sooner buy this one than the one for sale by any high end jewelery store. If it serviced and done by Rolex it is still Rolex. If you factor in the cost of service and replacement dial the $4K price tag is not so bad.

21 October 2010, 01:57 PM	#14
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	any chance of getting a picture???

22 October 2010, 04:53 AM	#17
rangel23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Eric Location: wisconsin Watch: Submariner Posts: 52	Really no chance of a picture, sorry guys. It's a 5513, he got on a trade-in. The watch got a new band and dial. It looks almost new.

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