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Old 28 November 2010, 08:31 AM   #1
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Another Fake Daytona on Ebay

Here goes another fake Daytona. I reported to Ebay early this morning but they still did not take any action.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mens-Rolex-Dayto...item3a60de27f3
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Old 28 November 2010, 08:44 AM   #2
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Weiner time.......this one on its way.......
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Old 28 November 2010, 08:51 AM   #3
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It's gone .....
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Old 28 November 2010, 09:15 AM   #4
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It's gone .....
indeed it has.....

This listing (250733275123) has been removed, or this item is not available.
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Old 28 November 2010, 09:34 AM   #5
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Who cares. Even real ones are butchered on eBay. Open it up and see a Chinese movement and aftermarket crystal, non-stainless links, buckles, refinshed faces etc... Buyer beware for any eBay Rolex IMO.
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Old 28 November 2010, 07:51 PM   #6
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Who cares.
Actually and since you asked.................I care.

Lots of scams occurring with Rolex via the internet, some on ebay, but not all. Many people being scammed, as I was a while ago. I have also received a great deal of help here on TRF and if I can spend a couple of hours week here helping others by not being scammed then I do so.

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Even real ones are butchered on eBay. Open it up and see a Chinese movement and aftermarket crystal, non-stainless links, buckles, refinshed faces etc.
Remember this; not everyone has your level of expertise in this regard......
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Old 29 November 2010, 04:00 AM   #7
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Actually and since you asked.................I care.

Lots of scams occurring with Rolex via the internet, some on ebay, but not all. Many people being scammed, as I was a while ago. I have also received a great deal of help here on TRF and if I can spend a couple of hours week here helping others by not being scammed then I do so.



Remember this; not everyone has your level of expertise in this regard......
eBay is fully aware they allow fakes on their site from questionable sources. Until eBay takes responsibility for their 'middleman' business model which is ideal for fraudsters, I don't care what happens on eBay. Does a well capitalized multi-billion dollar company have the capacity to set up a Fraud Center to FLAG any and all high-end listing BEFORE they go live? YES. Why don't they do it? Because even if you get burned, it's someone else's problem. We're not cops. We don't get paid to be cops for a private company based in Switzerland (where the cash goes) and makes gravy off legal strategy in their favor. If someone wants to rat out a TRF Seller that has questionable dealings --- good. But on a site that is well known for fraud? It's been done. You take a risk ANYTIME you buy on eBay. This thread could go on forever with questionable eBay Rolex listings. Not to mention all the fake Panerai's, Chopard, Omega, Tiffany dial Rolex, refinished sold as OEM vintage dials etc.... We'd be better served if we set up a thread and signed a reuqest to SEND to eBay so they may have the courage to set up a 24hr wait before any high-end, high-risk items are live. It's easy. If us hacks on TRF can spot a fake, why not give someone a JOB to spot them. The thing is this --- THEY CAN EASILY STOP THE BAD APPLES BUT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO. THEY HAVE THE MEANS, MONEY, EXPERTISE TO DO IT. THEY DON'T. Why? Because we allow them to.

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Old 29 November 2010, 05:09 AM   #8
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eBay is fully aware they allow fakes on their site from questionable sources. Until eBay takes responsibility for their 'middleman' business model which is ideal for fraudsters, I don't care what happens on eBay.
That is fine don't participate but there is much to be learned in this forum.
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Old 30 November 2010, 03:42 AM   #9
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That is fine don't participate but there is much to be learned in this forum.
I never said there wasn't much to be learned from the Forum, just not the Thread. Advertising an obvious eBay fake doesn't help anyone. Send an email to eBay or start an eBay petition asking them to implement a 21st Century fraud prevention system and we'll be doing something more productive for buyers IMO. Being reactive is easy. Being proactive takes effort. Peace.
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Old 30 November 2010, 11:20 AM   #10
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As a novice, pointing out all of the fakes and frauds is pretty helpful. First, it shows me just how many scams are out there. Second, it helps to know what to look for. Thanks.
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Old 30 November 2010, 12:54 PM   #11
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eBay is fully aware they allow fakes on their site from questionable sources. Until eBay takes responsibility for their 'middleman' business model which is ideal for fraudsters, I don't care what happens on eBay. Does a well capitalized multi-billion dollar company have the capacity to set up a Fraud Center to FLAG any and all high-end listing BEFORE they go live? YES. Why don't they do it? Because even if you get burned, it's someone else's problem. We're not cops. We don't get paid to be cops for a private company based in Switzerland (where the cash goes) and makes gravy off legal strategy in their favor. If someone wants to rat out a TRF Seller that has questionable dealings --- good. But on a site that is well known for fraud? It's been done. You take a risk ANYTIME you buy on eBay. This thread could go on forever with questionable eBay Rolex listings. Not to mention all the fake Panerai's, Chopard, Omega, Tiffany dial Rolex, refinished sold as OEM vintage dials etc.... We'd be better served if we set up a thread and signed a reuqest to SEND to eBay so they may have the courage to set up a 24hr wait before any high-end, high-risk items are live. It's easy. If us hacks on TRF can spot a fake, why not give someone a JOB to spot them. The thing is this --- THEY CAN EASILY STOP THE BAD APPLES BUT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO. THEY HAVE THE MEANS, MONEY, EXPERTISE TO DO IT. THEY DON'T. Why? Because we allow them to.

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And all the fun here would be gone.....
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