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subtona · 21 May 2011, 12:49 PM

1 other thing.... not directly to the question of the 2ndary market but...

when you walk out of the AD with TT or all gold watch you take a huge hit in price.

vs SS which holds its value extremely well... this is true for all high end watches.

ingoodtime · 21 May 2011, 01:18 PM

The price on a Precious metal Rolex is way overblown and like a car purchase, u lose thousands as soon as u r the new owner. Also, SS is harder than precious metals so won't accumulate as much wear and tear as quickly and of douse is more affordable. But, I do love the TT and solid gold or platinum models. Her we are, dissing the TT and solid gold models while so many people in this world have plated gold watches. Go figure.

Seventh Son · 21 May 2011, 01:22 PM

TTs are not too popular in Singapore too!

TswaneNguni · 21 May 2011, 01:48 PM

The TT Blue Sub is one of the nicest Rolexes EVER !!

The only watch that I sold that I actually miss .... 16613

Kiwinz · 21 May 2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananas

TT is a dated 80's look, and you are just advertising the fact that you can't afford the full gold version.

Mind You, apology accepted, but do You actually know what the 80's where like ?

Hodog16 · 21 May 2011, 01:59 PM

Easy solution. Rolex should come out with SS/WG two-tones

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Actually the oldest person I know who wears a Rolex has a TT blue sub!

And I agree, the number of scratches that my wife gets on the gold portion of her bracelet is crazy compared to SS.

Rolex2 · 21 May 2011, 02:08 PM

Gold/ss is better than ss in any watch--costs more, looks better in an Oyster Perpetual (see my avatar) and has better resale value. Any solid gold-containing watch has higher resale value and is in greater demand these days than ss. And gold is timeless--it is never out of style.

The Joker · 21 May 2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art 1

Advertising that fact that you can't afford the full gold version? That's one of the most foolish statements that I have read on this forum. Do you now how many guys on this forum and guys that I know who wear TT and SS watches that could buy most any watch they wanted?

Sorry guys, that was a stupid thing to say.

Thought a bit of banter might be fun, but can see I just come across offensive.

I love this site, and thought it was about time to join in the debate, but backfired a bit.

bobg · 21 May 2011, 10:01 PM

TT for me. I like the way it looks. Really just that simple.

capote · 21 May 2011, 10:24 PM

I kinda like tt for the Datejust jubilee (as seen above), but the only sport Rolex that can pull it off is the Root Beer IMHO. However I prefer SS.

chrisshank · 21 May 2011, 10:30 PM

Love that DJ, Bob!

I have both SS GMTIIc and TTDJ and wear either, depending on my mood and level of dress. Perhaps one day I will get the courage to sink some $$$ into a solid gold/plat piece, but for now I love both of these styles! There are so many watches that I say I dislike at first, but then, once I put one on my wrist, I MUST HAVE IT!

petesjag · 21 May 2011, 10:37 PM

I love all Rolex watches..SS, TT,YG,WG, RG...even like the diamonds..even likethe ladies models!
The nice thing about rolex is that there is enough variety for everybody......
I have two SS and Two TT..I love them all...I would love to buy an all gold model sometime...time will tell..

oceandweller · 21 May 2011, 10:45 PM

When I was a young man, then in Singapore, the Rolex Datejust TT was the most popular model and it was nicknamed 'Rolex Star', while the Rolex President Day-Date was nicknamed 'Rolex King' and the basic model, reference 6694, was nicknamed 'Baby Rolex'.

Generally, business and professional people went for the 'Rolex King', while bus and taxi-drivers preferred the 'Baby Rolex'. Those in between the lots chose the 'Rolex Star'. As such, the TT was the top-seller in Singapore, then.

Johny · 21 May 2011, 10:46 PM

hi does anyone have a pic of a tt with an all stainless bracelet? thank you. i think that its the tt bracelet that has me thinking and not the actual watch head. j

PanosI · 21 May 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

hi does anyone have a pic of a tt with an all stainless bracelet? thank you. i think that its the tt bracelet that has me thinking and not the actual watch head. j

Hi John

Larry has post one of his 16713 with SS bracelet and it looked great but I can't locate it.

slcbbrown · 21 May 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art 1

Advertising that fact that you can't afford the full gold version? That's one of the most foolish statements that I have read on this forum. Do you now how many guys on this forum and guys that I know who wear TT and SS watches that could buy most any watch they wanted?

I believe that "full gold" line came from a silly column in the online mag Ask Men. The writers (seem to be several) make strong, sometimes contradictory statements. I get the impression that it's a young guys kind of site.

Johny · 21 May 2011, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanosI

Hi John

Larry has post one of his 16713 with SS bracelet and it looked great but I can't locate it.

cheers panos. will have a look. i think that its actually the tt bracelet which puts me off a little. j

slcbbrown · 21 May 2011, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numismatist

Part of it is the fact that the markup of TT or solid gold versus all steel is significantly higher than the actual cost of the gold; therefore, there is a much bigger loss on the secondary market as it adjusts back to reality the true cost of the gold (much less).

I believe that the drop occurs because the watches command the higher price. Somebody is buying every one, obviously, and at the "high" price. Once the watches enter the pre-owned market, there are so many that it overwhelms the market. The rules of supply and demand rule. It's entirely possible that the secondary market has drifted more towards ss, but if you put an extra million ss models out there, the prices will drop.

I also believe that tt DJ's have been the biggest seller that Rolex has produced, for 50 years. There are millions out there.

PanosI · 21 May 2011, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny

cheers panos. will have a look. i think that its actually the tt bracelet which puts me off a little. j

Here it is John

http://50.30.33.71/~trfcom/showthread.php?t=125161

slcbbrown · 21 May 2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchf

Speaking of full gold I don't seem to see any full gold 36mm DJ here. Why did Rolex offer a full gold DJ line when the DD is the logical choice if people were to go for a full gold watch?

I was never all that interested in a DD but picked up a 60's 14k DJ to wear on a strap. Nice watch and it has held up nicely.

Johny · 21 May 2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanosI

Here it is John

http://50.30.33.71/~trfcom/showthread.php?t=125161

wow thank you panos.

looking at the pic it is the tt bracelet that's putting me off. imho the tt bracelet takes the look away from the watch head. ps i would have a gold bezel on my lv.

KBM · 21 May 2011, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

3 years ago all I liked was SS. Today I like the TT models too.
Opinions change. It's all good.

X 2

1kw · 21 May 2011, 11:52 PM

I just traded 2004 tt sub., black for a new white face ss Daytona. I was given $5000 trade in value so obviously I wore the watch for nothing. The tt black sub is a classic and still a popular look. I also have a ceramic GMT and so I no longer have a tt watch. I will probably own either the original LV sub next or the pre ceramic style blue tt sub next to round off my little collection. I agree that stainless is nicer for the Daytona then tt or solid gold. To me the white gold looks like steel. If you put a Arabic numeral face on ss Daytona it looks identical to the white gold.

lhanddds · 22 May 2011, 01:20 AM

Bought this one for a change from time to time. I have the jubillee bracelet but the leather is a little less blingy and I wear it like this more often. My main choice is ss but it's a nice change.

Singslinger · 22 May 2011, 01:21 AM

I wouldn't say that TT Rolexes are "unwanted'' in the secondary market but yes, demand is less than for S/S Rolexes. But I don't think demand is significantly less though.

RRGHOST1 · 22 May 2011, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananas

Is SS just a fashion thing? Newman knew what he was doing. 1986

So tell me what was Newman doing ? dont tell me......wearing a SS model. So that means everyone who wears a SS model knows what they are doing then,so thats were i have been going wrong !

OLJR · 22 May 2011, 04:08 AM

I do agree with other members that it would be vastly unfair to say that the only reason people buy TT is because they cannot afford the full gold model.

However I would say that some, possibly most but not necessarily all, people who buy those diamond encrusted models have more money than sense.

Particularly those ones that are entirely covered with diamonds, or the Submariner with a diamond bezel that the weightlifting chappie in the canary costume had in that YouTube video.

Watchdog · 22 May 2011, 04:09 AM

Very glad TT isn't as popular as SS because TT are by far my favorite type of Rolex watches--I think they are beautiful and quintessentially Rolex--and there will always be deals to be had on them.

Until, of course, the rest of the world gets better taste and realizes the aesthetic pleasure of gold and silver combined!

OLJR · 22 May 2011, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkongkelley

the aesthetic pleasure of gold and silver combined!

Ahem ... gold and steel.

jlee5050 · 22 May 2011, 04:14 AM

i'm 32 and I love the TT's... That doesn't make me look older does it?

it doesn't matter anyway because I buy my watches for myself...

21 May 2011, 01:18 PM	#92
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,834	The price on a Precious metal Rolex is way overblown and like a car purchase, u lose thousands as soon as u r the new owner. Also, SS is harder than precious metals so won't accumulate as much wear and tear as quickly and of douse is more affordable. But, I do love the TT and solid gold or platinum models. Her we are, dissing the TT and solid gold models while so many people in this world have plated gold watches. Go figure. __________________ Lee

21 May 2011, 01:22 PM	#93
Seventh Son "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Singapore Watch: AP and Rolex Posts: 134	TTs are not too popular in Singapore too! __________________ You cannot defeat an ignorant man in argument

21 May 2011, 10:46 PM	#104
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	hi does anyone have a pic of a tt with an all stainless bracelet? thank you. i think that its the tt bracelet that has me thinking and not the actual watch head. j __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

22 May 2011, 01:20 AM	#114
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Bought this one for a change from time to time. I have the jubillee bracelet but the leather is a little less blingy and I wear it like this more often. My main choice is ss but it's a nice change. Attached Images

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21 May 2011, 12:49 PM	#91
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,602	1 other thing.... not directly to the question of the 2ndary market but... when you walk out of the AD with TT or all gold watch you take a huge hit in price. vs SS which holds its value extremely well... this is true for all high end watches.

21 May 2011, 01:48 PM	#94
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	The TT Blue Sub is one of the nicest Rolexes EVER !! The only watch that I sold that I actually miss .... 16613

21 May 2011, 01:59 PM	#96
Hodog16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NC Watch: RG Olive DD40 Posts: 1,795	Easy solution. Rolex should come out with SS/WG two-tones . Actually the oldest person I know who wears a Rolex has a TT blue sub! And I agree, the number of scratches that my wife gets on the gold portion of her bracelet is crazy compared to SS.

21 May 2011, 02:08 PM	#97
Rolex2 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: PA, USA Posts: 164	Gold/ss is better than ss in any watch--costs more, looks better in an Oyster Perpetual (see my avatar) and has better resale value. Any solid gold-containing watch has higher resale value and is in greater demand these days than ss. And gold is timeless--it is never out of style.

21 May 2011, 10:01 PM	#99
bobg "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: Western burb Watch: Datejust Posts: 197	TT for me. I like the way it looks. Really just that simple.

21 May 2011, 10:24 PM	#100
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I kinda like tt for the Datejust jubilee (as seen above), but the only sport Rolex that can pull it off is the Root Beer IMHO. However I prefer SS.

21 May 2011, 10:30 PM	#101
chrisshank Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Houston, TX Watch: GMTIIc Posts: 183	Love that DJ, Bob! I have both SS GMTIIc and TTDJ and wear either, depending on my mood and level of dress. Perhaps one day I will get the courage to sink some $$$ into a solid gold/plat piece, but for now I love both of these styles! There are so many watches that I say I dislike at first, but then, once I put one on my wrist, I MUST HAVE IT!

21 May 2011, 10:37 PM	#102
petesjag "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,177	I love all Rolex watches..SS, TT,YG,WG, RG...even like the diamonds..even likethe ladies models! The nice thing about rolex is that there is enough variety for everybody...... I have two SS and Two TT..I love them all...I would love to buy an all gold model sometime...time will tell..

21 May 2011, 10:45 PM	#103
oceandweller Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 461	When I was a young man, then in Singapore, the Rolex Datejust TT was the most popular model and it was nicknamed 'Rolex Star', while the Rolex President Day-Date was nicknamed 'Rolex King' and the basic model, reference 6694, was nicknamed 'Baby Rolex'. Generally, business and professional people went for the 'Rolex King', while bus and taxi-drivers preferred the 'Baby Rolex'. Those in between the lots chose the 'Rolex Star'. As such, the TT was the top-seller in Singapore, then.

21 May 2011, 11:52 PM	#113
1kw "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: pa Posts: 313	I just traded 2004 tt sub., black for a new white face ss Daytona. I was given $5000 trade in value so obviously I wore the watch for nothing. The tt black sub is a classic and still a popular look. I also have a ceramic GMT and so I no longer have a tt watch. I will probably own either the original LV sub next or the pre ceramic style blue tt sub next to round off my little collection. I agree that stainless is nicer for the Daytona then tt or solid gold. To me the white gold looks like steel. If you put a Arabic numeral face on ss Daytona it looks identical to the white gold.

22 May 2011, 01:21 AM	#115
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I wouldn't say that TT Rolexes are "unwanted'' in the secondary market but yes, demand is less than for S/S Rolexes. But I don't think demand is significantly less though.

22 May 2011, 04:08 AM	#117
OLJR Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Oliver Location: Qatar Watch: GMT-Master II Posts: 260	I do agree with other members that it would be vastly unfair to say that the only reason people buy TT is because they cannot afford the full gold model. However I would say that some, possibly most but not necessarily all, people who buy those diamond encrusted models have more money than sense. Particularly those ones that are entirely covered with diamonds, or the Submariner with a diamond bezel that the weightlifting chappie in the canary costume had in that YouTube video.

22 May 2011, 04:09 AM	#118
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,822	Very glad TT isn't as popular as SS because TT are by far my favorite type of Rolex watches--I think they are beautiful and quintessentially Rolex--and there will always be deals to be had on them. Until, of course, the rest of the world gets better taste and realizes the aesthetic pleasure of gold and silver combined!

22 May 2011, 04:14 AM	#120
jlee5050 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Los Angeles Watch: the throne. Posts: 165	i'm 32 and I love the TT's... That doesn't make me look older does it? it doesn't matter anyway because I buy my watches for myself...

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