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Old 23 May 2011, 10:43 AM   #1
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Little PAM knowledge needed

Looking at my first PAM either the 104 or 312. I know the difference in the Case, movement, etc. Can someone explain the series, IE:M,K,etc to what yr the watch was manufactured.??

Thanks for all the great info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 23 May 2011, 10:50 AM   #2
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Try Paneristi...

http://www.paneristi.com/reference/serialnums.html
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Old 23 May 2011, 11:12 AM   #3
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I am not sure on specific production dates, but the 312 is relatively new in the past couple years, the 104 has been around longer.

As for other specs.
104: 44mm luminor case automatic movement with date and magnification. Watch case is also all polished.

312 is the 44mm 1950's style case, there is a difference, it is more of a cushion style. It has a brushed case but a polished bezel. Also has date but no magnification. Also automatic movement but I think it might be an in house 3 day reserve.

Both have sub seconds dials at 9 o clock.

312 is more expensive.

312 sits higher on the wrist and has see through caseback.

that is all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Old 23 May 2011, 11:26 AM   #4
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We can try here ourselves with a little more effort.....

The Lettering system began back in 1998 with A. Anything before that is called Pre-A or Pre-Vendome.

So, A was 1998
B was 1997 yada, yada.

In J (2007) the 104 was upgraded to the quick strap change system, so all J,K,L,M 104's have the same quick strap change system as the 312 does.

So, short answer
J - 2007
K - 2008
L - 2009
M - 2010
N - 2011
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Old 23 May 2011, 12:31 PM   #5
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312 first series was K
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Old 23 May 2011, 02:21 PM   #6
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Here you go...Complete lists of:

104 Production years & specifications
http://www.paneraisource.com/watch_d...porary_14.html

312 Production years & specifications
http://www.paneraisource.com/watch_d...orary_243.html

All of the models(minus Pre A,...etc)
http://www.paneraisource.com/models/all.html

All series(Year designators)
http://www.paneraisource.com/article...ers::thumbsup:
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Old 30 May 2011, 04:52 PM   #7
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What they said, and more importantly, despite all these "technical knowledge", you'll need to see which of those two will fit you best. :)
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