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Old 8 August 2007, 01:35 PM   #1
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Old 8 August 2007, 05:33 PM   #2
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Nick, YOU are asking US?????

We thought you were the expert on Rolex.....and I was quite clearly under the impression that all 31 jewels in a Rolex were FUNCTIONAL ones!!

If you are now trying to say that there actually are NON-FUNCTIONAL jewels in a Rolex, I am very dsiappointed.

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Old 8 August 2007, 06:32 PM   #3
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My guess is that this jewel works in conjunction with several other components that are situated around the edge of the date ring.
The jewel provides a point for enabling the date ring to rotate smoothly when it come time to change every 24 hours, and also with the other positioning components around the edge of the date ring assists in ensuring correct positioning of the date ring.
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Old 8 August 2007, 06:39 PM   #4
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Perhaps its the fact that 31 sounds better than 30 and we all know bigger is always better.
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Old 8 August 2007, 06:47 PM   #5
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Would Rolex put in more jewels just to make up the numbers? Hmm.
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Old 8 August 2007, 06:51 PM   #6
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Would Rolex put in more jewels just to make up the numbers? Hmm.
Well at one time in the watch jewel war in the 60s and 70s some
watches were boasting 100 jewels.But only 15 to 17 were on the
working parts rest were purely cosmetic.
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Old 8 August 2007, 07:15 PM   #7
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Since you was saying "obviously support jewels for calendar ring" and why not using 2 or 4 or even more, but 3. I believed 3 dummy jewels (3 points = balanced) itself will has their self-alignment or blancing in order to allowed the calendar ring balanced.

This is just my thinking...
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Old 8 August 2007, 09:42 PM   #8
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Could they be there just for decorative purposes?
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Old 8 August 2007, 09:48 PM   #9
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Old 8 August 2007, 09:52 PM   #10
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Old 8 August 2007, 09:59 PM   #11
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Could they be there just for decorative purposes?
Put it there for decoration and then cover it up so no one can see it? Makes no sense.

Maybe what padi said is correct, 31 sure sounds better and bigger than 30.

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Put it there for decoration and then cover it up so no one can see it? Makes no sense.

Maybe what padi said is correct, 31 sure sounds better and bigger than 30.

Well, in fact much decoration on the movement is done in place you normally cannot really see.

Rolex does it. And Patek does it to a great extend, also on models that do not have a see-through glass back
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Old 8 August 2007, 10:22 PM   #13
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Is the part in which this jewel is mounted shared by any other cal. movement? This is also way out in left field I know, but could a jewel, in any way, serve to attenuate vibration? It does not appear the jewel is tall enouth to touch the dial... Maybe it really is for bragging purposes.

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Old 8 August 2007, 11:20 PM   #14
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I like Jamie's suggestion, an attenuator
Man the darn jewel must have some practical function, I'll be gutted if it is just for marketing purposes.
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Old 8 August 2007, 11:25 PM   #15
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Old 9 August 2007, 12:17 AM   #16
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I have one question. Where's the battery?
Didn't you know its AC 110/240V
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Old 9 August 2007, 12:41 AM   #17
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Didn't you know its AC 110/240V
Then where's the extension cord?
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Old 9 August 2007, 01:46 AM   #18
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The reason is to have a spare for the watchmaker; they had to drill the spot to maintain balance, and to equalise the drilled out material put in a non-funtioning jewel so that if the watch went in for service many years later, the spare part would be there in the event that the same type/density/size of jewel was hard to get in the future. If the spare was used, the weight deficeit would be negligible enough. The idea being that the imbalance casued by any possible weight difference would be outweighed by the need for a new jewel, a much more serious requirement.

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Old 9 August 2007, 01:52 AM   #19
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Ironstark? Vanessa? Anyone else?
Oh sure....go to the Rolex people.....


I think it's a spare....You know, like a spare tire....You never know when one of your jewels will go flat....




edited: Oops, Chris, guess we were on the same wavelength.
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Old 9 August 2007, 01:54 AM   #20
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Old 9 August 2007, 03:40 AM   #22
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Day Function

Being completely ignorant of watch movements of any kind....

Could the hole be a 'place holder' for the Day function that might utilize the basic movement frame.....?
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Could it have something to do with the day wheel in a cal 3155? I suppose
both movements have the same plate. Just a guess.

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Old 9 August 2007, 06:02 AM   #24
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Could it have something to do with the day wheel in a cal 3155? I suppose
both movements have the same plate. Just a guess.

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That sounds logical to me as well. Also, Maybe that particular jewel is not counted as part of the "31."
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Old 9 August 2007, 07:36 AM   #25
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Old 9 August 2007, 07:51 PM   #26
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Come on, someone has to know the answer to this

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Old 9 August 2007, 10:16 PM   #27
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I think it's a spare....You know, like a spare tire....You never know when one of your jewels will go flat....

Yeah, I just opened up my Sub, and I found a spare winding crown in there.


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Old 9 August 2007, 11:33 PM   #28
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Yeah, I just opened up my Sub, and I found a spare winding crown in there.


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Might as well change the oil while you're there. Couple of pints of Castrol GTX works best I reckon..



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Old 9 August 2007, 11:49 PM   #29
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Yeah, I just opened up my Sub, and I found a spare winding crown in there.


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It's good to have spares of everything, I guess. I hope there were a spare of the case and bracelet in there.
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I think this is going to be a really short thread since the majority of us are not watch makers and offer only our idea's :o)
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