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Old 18 September 2007, 09:31 AM   #31
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Good for you....16710B should be a black bezel.. 16710BU would be black/red..

As for the "misprinted dials" your Arizona AD's are full of
LOL! Well said Larry! I got a call yesterday from an AD telling me there had been a "mistake" with the 116710 and 500 had been released with the ll dial.
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Old 18 September 2007, 09:34 AM   #32
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I don't know, I guess the blue/red color combo cheapens the look for people who generaly associate those vibrant colors with kids watches and the such, I do notice that everyone I know has a fairly conservative watch and it makes perfect sense to me that the Pepsi wouldnt sell. No cultural reason, just general taste and prefrence I guess.
The original colors

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Old 18 September 2007, 09:40 AM   #33
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This is fun. The watch I bought is a pepsi bezel so I guess the "B" is wrong. I'll post a photo of the goobered numeral ll
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Old 18 September 2007, 09:44 AM   #34
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A comparison...Photo credit HANNES,

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Old 18 September 2007, 09:46 AM   #35
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Thats a beutifull watch there Mike, no disrespect for you Pepsi People, just saying what some people think. I am just glad Rolex has been kind to us all and alowes us to choose what we see best.
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Old 18 September 2007, 09:56 AM   #36
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So Mike, does your post of the two dial means that Rolex produces them both in equal quantity or what, I am really curious now....

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Old 18 September 2007, 10:16 AM   #37
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So Mike, does your post of the two dial means that Rolex produces them both in equal quantity or what, I am really curious now....

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I really have no idea as to how many of each. My view is it's just a difference in font.
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Old 18 September 2007, 10:20 AM   #38
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Good for you....16710B should be a black bezel.. 16710BU would be black/red..
My receipt from the RSC says my GMTII is a 16710LN with black insert. What is "LN" if "B" is black?
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Old 18 September 2007, 10:21 AM   #39
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I should also say that the one I have now has the code 16710 and the new hidden buckle design, the other one had the more familiar Rolex design with the double middle chains and no hidden buckle.
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As has been stated the movement is the same. Larry correctly points out the watch and boxes are shipped seperately. Sounds like the AD screwed that up. I would check the paperwork and make sure you have the right certificate with serial number.
Both are good prices so you're OK there.
I agree, it's possible the RED/BLUE may have been NOS, hence the difference.

He says "double middle chains"....

I wonder if he means that the Pepsi is a old NOS with a Jubilee bracelet? If that's what it was, I'd have jumped on it.

Right or wrong, the Pepsi with Jubilee is my favorite GMT.

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Old 18 September 2007, 10:22 AM   #40
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Thanks Mike, I am totally crazy about watch, I didn't buy it based on the II vs ll thing but I did think it was interesting....thanks everyone!
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Old 18 September 2007, 10:28 AM   #41
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Thats a beutifull watch there Mike, no disrespect for you Pepsi People, just saying what some people think. I am just glad Rolex has been kind to us all and alowes us to choose what we see best.
LOL! None taken my friend. I love em all!!
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Old 18 September 2007, 10:31 AM   #42
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He says "double middle chains"....

I wonder if he means that the Pepsi is a old NOS with a Jubilee bracelet? If that's what it was, I'd have jumped on it.

Right or wrong, the Pepsi with Jubilee is my favorite GMT.

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Indeed, the GMT with the jubilee is a beautifull watch, and the only sport model to have been equipped with the jubilee.
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Old 18 September 2007, 10:38 AM   #43
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Ok if I read it correctly, I know which one I should buy, the one with the misprinted dial!!!
As they are original Rolex they would fetch a lot of money in time??? That would mean a seperate version of which only 500 exist?
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Old 18 September 2007, 10:51 AM   #44
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Ok if I read it correctly, I know which one I should buy, the one with the misprinted dial!!!
As they are original Rolex they would fetch a lot of money in time??? That would mean a seperate version of which only 500 exist?
Who knows? It might be something to a collector some day. The thing I always think about is how does an AD know how many of a given dial were made? Rolex is so tight lipped about everything.
I've seen TT 116710s with the ll dial font.
The things that drive collectors crazy! LOL!
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Old 18 September 2007, 11:01 AM   #45
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Anybody know where and if the misprinted ones have been sold besides Arizona?
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Old 18 September 2007, 11:11 AM   #46
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Anybody know where and if the misprinted ones have been sold besides Arizona?

It's unlikely there are any "misprints". These dials are available all over the world.

Hannes photos are from Europe, My GMT came from an East Coast dealer, and there are others on this forum with them..

But as has been said...who can say in a decade or so... There are certainly fewer of the ll than the II. but the claim that there are only a few hundred is ridiculous..
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Old 18 September 2007, 11:15 AM   #47
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Well, Altair, you may be sure of one thing: you didn't go wrong, your watch is fantastic! I hope you are successful in "sorting out" your AD, as Welch said, but congradulations on a great GMT! Great photos, too, BTW. Beautiful chess set!
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Old 18 September 2007, 11:17 AM   #48
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Correct Tools,
In my social circle flaunting is considered bad taste.
Subtle is considered good taste.
A platinum watch would be preferred over a Yella Gold un.
And quiet understated function, as in the Exp., the most
elegant statement of all.
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Old 18 September 2007, 07:13 PM   #49
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Indeed, the GMT with the jubilee is a beautifull watch, and the only sport model to have been equipped with the jubilee.
Thats it, is the Pepsi with junilee a particularly good value at 3900 USD?

I just might buy a couple and sit on them.
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If the Pepsi is new in the box, I'd say you are right on track at 3900. Wish I could find one NIB like that here! The jubilee is very sharp on GMT. There is a time and place and place for everything, including solid 18K watches and ones with what is considered "bling". However, almost every single GMT goes with anything, anytime! ALL of them are great!
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Old 19 September 2007, 09:38 AM   #51
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3900 USD is a steal for a BNIB 16710. I am sure it was either used or he made a mistake the first time you went
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Old 19 September 2007, 09:44 AM   #52
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Can anyone recommend the best way to purchase a jubilee braclet for the 16710?
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Old 19 September 2007, 04:35 PM   #53
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3900 USD is a steal for a BNIB 16710. I am sure it was either used or he made a mistake the first time you went
Nope. I was just there and thats the price NIB, serioselu thinking of buying some as an investment looking at online prices I thinl I can sell these in a couple of years for at least a 50% profit.
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