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Old 14 March 2012, 11:44 AM   #1
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Datejust 6305 Serpico y Laino

Hi,

I am new in this forum, sorry about my english.

I really need your advice. I am from Colombia.

Today i discovered from someone whos is trying to sell a vintage Rolex Dayjust 6305 from an antique jewlery named Serpico y Laino in Caracas, Venezuela.

the watch has in the dial the brand Serpico y Laino, it is a 18k with gold bracelet, and it also has red numbers in the date.

the problem is he do not have any papers, certificate or the box.
He just says that someone from venezuela brougth the watch many years ago and sold to him. as a gold watch and for the price he bougth it.

another problem is, besides it has in the dial the name Serpico y laino
the write in the dial is CHRONOMETRE, instead of Chronometer.
It is possible that it clould happened or it is just a fake copy of the vintage 6305.

the watch seems to work fine, and the mechanism seems to be correct. i can not revised it well, but i leave some pic of the watch.

what do you think? it is worth to buy, or it just a fake?

price. he ask usd $5.000

thaks for your help.
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Old 14 March 2012, 11:49 AM   #2
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Looks like an early Datejust. I think it has been redialed at some point, but it looks like an old redial. It's not fake!
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Old 14 March 2012, 11:59 AM   #3
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Looks like an early Datejust. I think it has been redialed at some point, but it looks like an old redial. It's not fake!
thanks for you answer.

you mean redialed according to? maybe they later redialed the brand serpico y laico?

but what about the word spelling (CHRONOMETRE) it is well spelled?

wich will be a good price to pay for it, remember, no box or papers...

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Old 14 March 2012, 12:04 PM   #4
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If it was redialed, maybe it is a fake dial and the dummy spelled chronometer wrong.

Ask one of the trusted sellers here. Maybe they have something similar and you will know for a fact that it is real. $5,000 is a lot of money to pay for something you will be uncertain about or have the watch no be perfect (like proper spelling).


I sure wouldn't buy this watch. Good luck and bienvenidos.
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Old 14 March 2012, 12:39 PM   #5
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If it was redialed, maybe it is a fake dial and the dummy spelled chronometer wrong.

Ask one of the trusted sellers here. Maybe they have something similar and you will know for a fact that it is real. $5,000 is a lot of money to pay for something you will be uncertain about or have the watch no be perfect (like proper spelling).


I sure wouldn't buy this watch. Good luck and bienvenidos.
maybe the dummy spelled in french ..

where can i find them? anny banner in the forum, or any other member, i am new an not familiarized here.

thanks in advance for all the help, it is my first buy and i want to doit well and for the correct price
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Old 14 March 2012, 01:53 PM   #6
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Watch is authentic, dial is refinished. Seripico is a good feature if all is original, not the case here. Case in heavily polished (i.e., poor) condition, bracelet is scrap. I wouldn't pay $5,000. Not a project worth embarking on. Buy a nice one for not much more. I have had many in the past few years. Sold a fantastic one this week.

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Old 14 March 2012, 02:14 PM   #7
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Watch is authentic, dial is refinished. Seripico is a good feature if all is original, not the case here. Case in heavily polished (i.e., poor) condition, bracelet is scrap. I wouldn't pay $5,000. Not a project worth embarking on. Buy a nice one for not much more. I have had many in the past few years. Sold a fantastic one this week.

Michael
thanks for the advice


maybe the images are not so good, the watch, the case doent look that bad, but certanly the bracelet had some work on it.
the dial was my first concern. and for the price you are correct. maybe is not worth for a project. but if i can get a better deal. the watch is authentic, so wich will be the best offer i can make? obviosly much less that 5000...

i am asking that just to know the correct value for a watch like this in near mint conditions, and how much for a piece like this one in the images

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Old 14 March 2012, 02:22 PM   #8
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it could be possible that the spelling mistake was made intentionally..???
ive heard cases in wich the mistake was made to make the piece more unique...

because if the watch is authentic, how the last owners never realize that epic fail...for at least..dont know last 30-40 years....i just dont get it...
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Old 15 March 2012, 02:52 PM   #9
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Hola Amigo!

$5,000 USD is a lot to pay for a watch of questionable origin. There are many
great watch sellers here on this site, many who sell internationally.

Although I am not a seller, I can direct you to several here who can work with you to get a watch that is worth what you will pay for it. Send me a private message if I can be of help!

Suerte!


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Old 16 March 2012, 07:42 AM   #10
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Hi,

updating the info.

the case, do not hace any marks of visible serials between lugs.

sorry for the images, but apparently he uses his phone.

thanks again for your help
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Old 16 March 2012, 08:08 AM   #11
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Co-branded watches, we love you so much. There is just something some classy, so "old-worldy" about high end Swiss watches that are co-branded with the name of the retailer that originally sold it. We have featured a few of them, and while Tiffany & Co. is the most common, we have featured co-branded watches from LIP (France), Cuervo Y Sobrinos (Pre-Castro Cuba), and Serpico Y Laino (Venezuela). Believe it or not, the most difficult to find is Serpico Y Laino, and we have found one for you here today.

It is a Rolex GMT Master with a black matte dial, reference 1675. It isn't just a GMT, it is a classic "pepsi" dial GMT and it appears to be in excellent shape. A vintage GMT is certainly worthy of a post, but to find a classic one in this condition with the "Serpico Y Laino" name on the face is extraordinary.

This I found. I find $5000 for a vintage solid gold DJ with band and a Jeweler signed dial a great price.
I would go with the deal if I were you. This is not a redial its the original dial from the original retailer in Venezuela. Rolex watches have been a big market in Venezuela people there are very brand oriented.
A solid Vintage DJ is a great find.

Just read no serial numbers visible. This hurts value I would say $3000 to $4000 bc it is gold
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