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Old 29 March 2012, 06:53 AM   #31
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The original model from the 20's was referred as the Drivers watch designed to be easier to read when driving
That's kinda neat.


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Old 29 March 2012, 06:59 AM   #32
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That's kinda neat.


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A very nice model imo, And super comfy too
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Old 29 March 2012, 11:16 AM   #33
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a perpetual calender reverso limited edition
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Old 29 March 2012, 11:37 AM   #34
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Good luck with your journey Andres, I can't wait to see what you have chosen.
I hope it's a short journey. I can't wait to have a Nautilus on my wrist.

BTW- Your review and pics aren't helping.
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Old 29 March 2012, 11:52 AM   #35
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I hope it's a short journey. I can't wait to have a Nautilus on my wrist.

BTW- Your review and pics aren't helping.
I always got the impression that once you became a WIS, it was one's responsibility to ensure that you help other WIS's be happy by assisting them even if you had to push a bit to get them interested in more watches.


Good luck with you hunt, I hope you are able to get one soon.

I know I'm happy, I'm sure you will be too.

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Old 29 March 2012, 01:16 PM   #36
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Patek, AP, JLC, VC and Lange are my top 5 for the higher end luxury watch houses.
Rolex is of course right at the top of my list as well for many other reasons!
I couldn't say it better. Exactly my top 5 in terms of watchmaking. I think VC ALS a little higher than JLC but it's close. Rolex is IMO the number 1 watch for the middle class person that loves watches and it's perfect in almost every situation.
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Old 29 March 2012, 01:20 PM   #37
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The brands that come in my mind are Patek Philippe, Rolex, A. Lange & Söhne, Jaeger Lecoultre, Omega and Audemars Piguet. I don't have a particular order for those but I must say that Patek comes first, it is my ultimate brand grail.
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Old 29 March 2012, 01:23 PM   #38
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The brands that come in my mind are Patek Philippe, Rolex, A. Lange & Söhne, Jaeger Lecoultre, Omega and Audemars Piguet. I don't have a particular order for those but I must say that Patek comes first, it is my ultimate brand grail.
Have you had a chance to identify a the Patek you would like to have Carl?
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Old 29 March 2012, 01:29 PM   #39
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Have you had a chance to identify a the Patek you would like to have Carl?
Dan, I'll be very honest with you and say that I'm hesitating between a couple of models! If I had to buy myself a Patek someday (which I quite doubt) I would like it to be somewhat complicated but I would like my grail to remain relatively possible to obtain. Therefore I believe I can maybe hope for one of those:









...I'm not in a much better situation now am I?

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Old 29 March 2012, 01:32 PM   #40
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Dan, I'll be very honest with you and say that I'm hesitating between a couple of models! If I had to buy myself a Patek someday (which I quite doubt) I would like it to be somewhat complicated but I would like my grail to remain relatively possible to obtain. Therefore I believe I can maybe hope for one of those:

...I'm not in a much better situation now am I?

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Great choices Carl.

Have you had the opportunity to go Patek window shoping yet? It's terribly fun even when not buying. Heck, I luv to window shop.

Have to, cause none can afford buy everything.
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Old 29 March 2012, 01:36 PM   #41
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Great choices Carl.

Have you had the opportunity to go Patek window shoping yet? It's terribly fun even when not buying. Heck, I luv to window shop.

Have to, cause none can afford buy everything.
The only AD in Montreal is a bit far from my house so I didn't have the chance to try them yet. As for the Swiss one I went to I was very excited when I tried on a Calatrava but I must admit I regret it a bit today, had I known I would have stayed there longer and I would have tried more impressive pieces!

Don't worry, if I ever go to a Patek AD and try watches I'll let you know, whether I have pictures or not!
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Old 29 March 2012, 02:09 PM   #42
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Old 29 March 2012, 02:18 PM   #43
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The only AD in Montreal is a bit far from my house so I didn't have the chance to try them yet. As for the Swiss one I went to I was very excited when I tried on a Calatrava but I must admit I regret it a bit today, had I known I would have stayed there longer and I would have tried more impressive pieces!

Don't worry, if I ever go to a Patek AD and try watches I'll let you know, whether I have pictures or not!
The first time I didn't have much of a clue either. Heck I have still got a ways to go myself. Give it sometime you'll get there. Just remember just because you can't afford one doesn't mean you can't enjoy looking.
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Old 29 March 2012, 02:43 PM   #44
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Sorry for the hijack!
All great choices Carl. The Cal. 240 is a real beauty, the mini rotor is . The world timer should have it.
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Old 29 March 2012, 02:48 PM   #45
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All great choices Carl. The Cal. 240 is a real beauty, the mini rotor is . The world timer should have it.
Mini rotors are indeed wonderful! They let you admire the rest of the gorgeous movement they're attached to!

As for my choices, thank you for such a compliment but I'm afraid they'll remain dreams than actual watches of mine!
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Old 29 March 2012, 03:41 PM   #46
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Old 29 March 2012, 10:22 PM   #47
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Old 29 March 2012, 10:38 PM   #48
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I just luv these kinds of threads.


Sometimes it gives me not only different perspectives which I enjoy hearing, BUT EVEN MORE IDEAS.


Like I need anymore ideas.
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Old 29 March 2012, 10:42 PM   #49
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Like I need anymore ideas.
Well I think we all have enough ideas. It's the constant reordering of the list that we all need help with... LOL.
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And just the 5124G from PP.
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Old 29 March 2012, 10:55 PM   #51
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Well I think we all have enough ideas. It's the constant reordering of the list that we all need help with... LOL.

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Old 31 March 2012, 08:08 AM   #52
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Ok, I'd be interested if you'd be willing to share your grail pieces list Paul.
To be honest Dan, I can't think of one.

I thought the Patek 5960P was "the one" and I had one on my wrist with my wallet there on the table and I just didn't pull the trigger. This was before the seemingly exponential prices increases even.

There are a couple of watches that I would bring into the herd at the right price.

116509 Panda or Slate.
Zenith Striking 10th.
216570 white dial.
BP 50th Fathoms on X10 bracelet.
JLC 187T170.

.... well if I were pushed I'd opt for the Speedy 311.90.42.30.01.001 (shame about the ruined left mini dial) for the ultra stealth look.

260g on a slim Speedypro !!!!

I'd need to pay trade though.
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My order of grail brands would have to be:

1) Patek
2) AP
3) Rolex

VC and JLC still leave me cold. I don't know why...
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Old 31 March 2012, 08:26 AM   #54
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To be honest Dan, I can't think of one.

I thought the Patek 5960P was "the one" and I had one on my wrist with my wallet there on the table and I just didn't pull the trigger. This was before the seemingly exponential prices increases even.

There are a couple of watches that I would bring into the herd at the right price.

116509 Panda or Slate.
Zenith Striking 10th.
216570 white dial.
BP 50th Fathoms on X10 bracelet.
JLC 187T170.

.... well if I were pushed I'd opt for the Speedy 311.90.42.30.01.001 (shame about the ruined left mini dial) for the ultra stealth look.

260g on a slim Speedypro !!!!

I'd need to pay trade though.

Paul.

Great choice with the Patek. The Platinum as well very sweet. The diamond between you and the watch is such a nice touch, and I am really becoming a biog fan of the Bullseye. But it would have definitely been a cost that makes one think a couple of times even before three price increases of last year.

The rest of your list is real nice, and I often look at the Zenith and go Wow.


Thanks for sharing.

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Old 31 March 2012, 08:32 AM   #55
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My order of grail brands would have to be:

1) Patek
2) AP
3) Rolex

VC and JLC still leave me cold. I don't know why...
Tastes in watches are a funny thing for me. I have learned to like a couple things lately that I initially didn't care for 2 years ago. Somtimes I think it's having a bit of time before it grows on you.


My Ad who I work with, has over 60 watches himself. We were having a talk the other day. I was talking to him about this sane thing. How I once didn't care that much for this or that and now I do and I really apreciate how it looks. He said those which it took you awhile before they grow on you are somtimes are the ones which you learn to love the most and they often stick with you for a longer time.


I'm not saying you'll ever learn to love JLC or VC, but then again you may.


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Old 31 March 2012, 07:47 PM   #56
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Tastes in watches are a funny thing for me. I have learned to like a couple things lately that I initially didn't care for 2 years ago. Somtimes I think it's having a bit of time before it grows on you.


My Ad who I work with, has over 60 watches himself. We were having a talk the other day. I was talking to him about this sane thing. How I once didn't care that much for this or that and now I do and I really apreciate how it looks. He said those which it took you awhile before they grow on you are somtimes are the ones which you learn to love the most and they often stick with you for a longer time.


I'm not saying you'll ever learn to love JLC or VC, but then again you may.


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You're absolutely right, especially on the highlighted part. I didn't much care for AP and Patek 2 years ago, but now I'm all for them. There's a chance I'll discover and fall in love with JLC and VC in the future. Maybe even RM or Roger Dubuis, who knows
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Old 31 March 2012, 07:54 PM   #58
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Although I do have grails from Rolex, Patek Philippe, Ulysse Nardin, Cartier, FP Journe, Audemars Piguet, A Lange & Söhne etc.... I could go on




I think of it more as "grail models" than "grail brands".
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Although I do have grails from Rolex, Patek Philippe, Ulysse Nardin, Cartier, FP Journe, Audemars Piguet, A Lange & Söhne etc.... I could go on




I think of it more as "grail models" than "grail brands".

For me it's a combination of both. The model has to be there for me to love it, because that's what your going to wear and look at when you wear it. But it's now just important to me that the brand excites me as well. I am looking for something with a bit of history, and what makes them special, what type of product are they known for producing, to what lengths do they go to in regards to the details and execution of the watch. It helps to fuel my passion just a bit.
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Breguet and patek for me are my grails.
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