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KBM · 8 February 2013, 05:17 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm gathering my courage to try to get closer to a perfect watch for me, and that would mean taking the cyclops out of my Sub C. From what I have researched, one of the best ways to do this is to replace the original crystal with a new one, also from Rolex, but without the cyclops. This way I would get to keep the old one, in case I ever needed to restore the originality of the watch (unlikely!).

I'm assumig this swap would involve a crystal made for the 114060? Are the crystals for the different Subs (date and ND) identical apart from the cyclops?

Does anyone have any idea how much this crystal replacement would cost?

Here is a picture (from the web) of the expected result:

kilyung · 8 February 2013, 05:31 AM

Should be a perfect fit.

KBM · 8 February 2013, 06:36 AM

Thanks, Mike. I really thought the Ceramic ND and Date subs used the same case, but wanted to confirm. Any thought on the price for a new ND crystal?

AK797 · 8 February 2013, 06:52 AM

Cases are diff sizes but I imagine the dials and crystals are the same size.

R_Ongjoco · 8 February 2013, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

Cases are diff sizes but I imagine the dials and crystals are the same size.

The SubC ND and SubC date have different cases?

boogiebot · 8 February 2013, 08:00 AM

the cyclops is an acquired taste. for years i use to swear up and down that i would never own a rolex because i thought the cyclops was so ugly. I now stand corrected

JJL · 8 February 2013, 08:05 AM

I think it looks great! good luck making it yours

PMiddy · 8 February 2013, 08:27 AM

I don't like the cyclops either, please let know how it goes......good luck

Bangel · 8 February 2013, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogiebot

the cyclops is an acquired taste. for years i use to swear up and down that i would never own a rolex because i thought the cyclops was so ugly. I now stand corrected

I'm standing with you!

ikovalchuk17 · 8 February 2013, 09:14 AM

I like the look of it without the cyclops. I've changed out the crystal on 1680s for the same affect. If only there was a domed, non-cyclop crystal option...

ecsub44 · 8 February 2013, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

Cases are diff sizes but I imagine the dials and crystals are the same size.

Really? I thought they were identical...

sleddog · 8 February 2013, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

Cases are diff sizes but I imagine the dials and crystals are the same size.

On the pre ceramic models, yes, case/dial/crystal sizes are different!!

Newer ceramic models are identical in all aspects of size......only difference being the date/movement (crystal sans cyclops)!!

KBM · 8 February 2013, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog

On the pre ceramic models, yes, case/dial/crystal sizes are different!!

Newer ceramic models are identical in all aspects of size......only difference being the date/movement (crystal sans cyclops)!!

Great info, Rob! Many thanks!

AK797 · 8 February 2013, 12:56 PM

This was a hot topic when they came out and I remember someone finally got hold of someone at Rolex who confirmed the case was a tiny bit different on the two ceramic models.

sleddog · 8 February 2013, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK797

This was a hot topic when they came out and I remember someone finally got hold of someone at Rolex who confirmed the case was a tiny bit different on the two ceramic models.

Having seen pics of both measured with a micrometer, there is no discernible difference I'm aware of....
Happy to be proved wrong however!

Andad · 8 February 2013, 05:21 PM

So, are you guys having a beer on this or what?

Psmith · 8 February 2013, 06:46 PM

I like the cyclops... it's a Rolex thing...

KBM · 8 February 2013, 10:08 PM

Well, I understand that the cyclops is instantly associated with Rolex, but when I chose the Sub I was after a watch that, at the same time, was extremely well built/reliable and was close to what I thought was the most aesthetically pleasing design. I ended up choosing between the PO 2500, Sub and DSSD, and went with the Sub. It didn't matter to me if the watch said Rolex, Omega or whatever else on the dial, but I wanted the one I liked the most among the watches with the technical specs I was after.

To make the Sub perfect for me, I would like it without the cyclops and at 42mm. Since the later is impossible, I'm trying to get as close as possible to my ideal watch.

padi56 · 8 February 2013, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kauebm

Thanks, Mike. I really thought the Ceramic ND and Date subs used the same case, but wanted to confirm. Any thought on the price for a new ND crystal?

The Cyclops is only stuck on it can be removed.

kilyung · 9 February 2013, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

The Cyclops is only stuck on it can be removed.

True but the AR coating is very evident when a cyclops is just removed.

KBM · 9 February 2013, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

True but the AR coating is very evident when a cyclops is just removed.

Exactly, this would not be the best solution, as the removal of the cyclops leaves its traces in the crystal...

8 February 2013, 05:17 AM	#1
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	Would the crystal from a 114060 fit my 116610? Hello everyone, I'm gathering my courage to try to get closer to a perfect watch for me, and that would mean taking the cyclops out of my Sub C. From what I have researched, one of the best ways to do this is to replace the original crystal with a new one, also from Rolex, but without the cyclops. This way I would get to keep the old one, in case I ever needed to restore the originality of the watch (unlikely!). I'm assumig this swap would involve a crystal made for the 114060? Are the crystals for the different Subs (date and ND) identical apart from the cyclops? Does anyone have any idea how much this crystal replacement would cost? Here is a picture (from the web) of the expected result:

8 February 2013, 05:21 PM	#16
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	So, are you guys having a beer on this or what? __________________ E

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8 February 2013, 05:31 AM	#2
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Should be a perfect fit.

8 February 2013, 06:36 AM	#3
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	Thanks, Mike. I really thought the Ceramic ND and Date subs used the same case, but wanted to confirm. Any thought on the price for a new ND crystal?

8 February 2013, 06:52 AM	#4
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Cases are diff sizes but I imagine the dials and crystals are the same size.

8 February 2013, 08:00 AM	#6
boogiebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: canada Watch: me post! Posts: 3,804	the cyclops is an acquired taste. for years i use to swear up and down that i would never own a rolex because i thought the cyclops was so ugly. I now stand corrected

8 February 2013, 08:05 AM	#7
JJL "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Watch: 1680 Red & 16622 Posts: 2,449	I think it looks great! good luck making it yours

8 February 2013, 08:27 AM	#8
PMiddy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Patrick Location: New York City Watch: 14060M Posts: 135	I don't like the cyclops either, please let know how it goes......good luck

8 February 2013, 09:14 AM	#10
ikovalchuk17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: LA Watch: ND Sub Posts: 371	I like the look of it without the cyclops. I've changed out the crystal on 1680s for the same affect. If only there was a domed, non-cyclop crystal option...

8 February 2013, 12:56 PM	#14
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	This was a hot topic when they came out and I remember someone finally got hold of someone at Rolex who confirmed the case was a tiny bit different on the two ceramic models.

8 February 2013, 10:08 PM	#18
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	Well, I understand that the cyclops is instantly associated with Rolex, but when I chose the Sub I was after a watch that, at the same time, was extremely well built/reliable and was close to what I thought was the most aesthetically pleasing design. I ended up choosing between the PO 2500, Sub and DSSD, and went with the Sub. It didn't matter to me if the watch said Rolex, Omega or whatever else on the dial, but I wanted the one I liked the most among the watches with the technical specs I was after. To make the Sub perfect for me, I would like it without the cyclops and at 42mm. Since the later is impossible, I'm trying to get as close as possible to my ideal watch.

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