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wanmaar · 28 March 2013, 02:42 AM

That's the question...

HERITAGE82 · 28 March 2013, 02:54 AM

Yes

Vincent65 · 28 March 2013, 02:57 AM

I would say so, yes.

Rolexwatch · 28 March 2013, 02:58 AM

Do you think that a 30 + y/o watch could not be vintage?

Of course it is.

Puffy · 28 March 2013, 03:05 AM

6m serial + acrylic crystal + matt dial + no white gold surrounds + lug holes + end links + patina + silver date wheel = vintage

springer · 28 March 2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

6m serial + acrylic crystal + matt dial + no white gold surrounds + lug holes + end links + patina + silver date wheel = vintage

Puff, I'm confused again! What about all the white date wheel Rolexes that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear after the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

I also like the sapphire crystal, matte-dialed Submariners, model 16800, and consider it vintage as well as the acrylic crystal GMT 16750 with gold surround markers. My rule-of-thumb now is vintage should be 30-years-old, or very close.

subtona · 28 March 2013, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

6m serial + acrylic crystal + matt dial + no white gold surrounds + lug holes + end links + patina + silver date wheel = vintage

well said

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

What about all the white date wheels that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear around the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

also qualify

landroverking · 28 March 2013, 11:21 AM

IMHO any four number model would be vintage.

Rolexis · 28 March 2013, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landroverking

IMHO any four number model would be vintage.

Yes I agree 4 digit and plexi = vintage.

harry in montreal · 28 March 2013, 09:57 PM

Y

Puffy · 28 March 2013, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

Puff, I'm confused again! What about all the white date wheel Rolexes that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear after the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

I also like the sapphire crystal, matte-dialed Submariners, model 16800, and consider it vintage as well as the acrylic crystal GMT 16750 with gold surround markers. My rule-of-thumb now is vintage should be 30-years-old, or very close.

my list wasn't exhaustive, just a sample of the things to look for

i also think a matte dial sapphire SD is vintage

Puffy · 28 March 2013, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

Puff, I'm confused again! What about all the white date wheel Rolexes that preceded the silver date wheels. (Silver date wheels started to appear after the mid 1970's in the Subs and GMT's)

I also like the sapphire crystal, matte-dialed Submariners, model 16800, and consider it vintage as well as the acrylic crystal GMT 16750 with gold surround markers. My rule-of-thumb now is vintage should be 30-years-old, or very close.

my list wasn't exhaustive, just a sample of the things to look for

i also think a matte dial sapphire SD is vintage

gpfps · 28 March 2013, 11:24 PM

Is my DD from 1980 64 ser# but has non plexy ?

jfmiii · 28 March 2013, 11:37 PM

anything with a matte dial is vintage. non-matte 16800s and 16750s are toss ups.

Puffy · 28 March 2013, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpfps

Is my DD from 1980 64 ser# but has non plexy ?

i'd say it is

springer · 28 March 2013, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

my list wasn't exhaustive, just a sample of the things to look for

i also think a matte dial sapphire SD is vintage

swish77 · 29 March 2013, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landroverking

IMHO any four number model would be vintage.

What about five-digit models with acrylic crystals? I'd say those are vintage, too, but agree it's debatable.

Rolexis · 29 March 2013, 05:40 AM

Anything is vintage. By definition it means of a certain year. The English language has given it a second meaning of old or classic.

kepler22 · 29 March 2013, 06:33 AM

How about an Oyster Perpetual Date 15000 model, purchased in 1987, with an acrylic dial, would that be classed as vintage?

BTW - Great forum, lots of helpful advice and interesting topics!

Jon

springer · 29 March 2013, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolexis

Anything is vintage. By definition it means of a certain year. The English language has given it a second meaning of old or classic.

...the debate that never ends! Gotta love it.

John in MA · 29 March 2013, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfmiii

anything with a matte dial is vintage. non-matte 16800s and 16750s are toss ups.

This is my rule of thumb as well for Rolex. If it came originally with a matte dial when it shipped from Rolex (whether it has a replacement gloss dial or not) it is classified as vintage.

Tudor's are more difficult to judge. Especially Subs as they had matte dials and acrylic crystals all the way into the 90's. FOr those I'd say lollipop hand 76100 and earlier are vintage.

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Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	I would say so, yes.

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