What Rolex is this?

[Rbc1990]

I have this automatic chrono time but i dont know nor the model or year. Thanks

[datejust24]

thats the elusive Daytona Shitster...made only in Geneva Shitzerland...hold on to that one!!! its gonna be worth BIG money some day....

[andromeda160]

fake or a redialed tudor

[Rbc1990]

I think it is legit, my father bought it from a swiss guy like 25years ago, ill try uploading a better pic

[datejust24]

Originally Posted by Rbc1990

I think it is legit, my father bought it from a swiss guy like 25years ago, ill try uploading a better pic

ignore my first post...i was being a smartass, obviously, but unfortunately your watch isn't real. The Daytona was never made with a date...and never will be. As stated previously it looks like a re dialed Tudor Big Block...

[MonBK]

It's not.

[Tools]

It would be nice to see some better photos, as well as the back, bracelet (although that too looks fake from here), and movement..

It is possible that you do have a Tudor and it may be worth being properly restored - or at least you should know what you have..

It is also possible (likely) that it is a complete fake; as mentioned, it is not a Rolex..

[ZakSgp]

From the looks of it, it seems like some type of Tudor probably made in the 90s/80s that dial has obviously been redone. As Larry said more photos will be essential. It might be a good idea to crack the back open (if you can without damaging the watch) and post a few photos of that as well.

Zak

[oceandweller]

Originally Posted by Rbc1990

I think it is legit, my father bought it from a swiss guy like 25years ago, ill try uploading a better pic

Your dad having bought it from a Swiss guy does not necessarily mean it has to be legit.

[crowncollection]

It is not looking good better photos it not a daytona that is for sure


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[Rbc1990]

[watch-guy.com]

Originally Posted by Rbc1990

[ZakSgp]

Never seen one with a cyclop rotated like that or 'Rolex Geneve' it looks like you have a fake on your hands.

[SUBversive]

How much did your father pay for this? Where is that Swiss guy now?

[Rbc1990]

I think he told me he paid 1000 dls back in 1985 , i assume he is dead. Mm well ill have a look at the movement see what happens.

[meloncap78]

Oh dear

[Frogman4me]

Does not look good...

[Paul]

I'm no whizz on chronos but I'm thinking you may have a Tudor 79260 - see pic.

That said ..... if the seller all those years ago went to pains to morph it into a Rolex, you may find the base watch is fake too.

If it is indeed a Tudor 79260, swapping on a correct dial and bracelet is easy enough - end result worth perhaps $2,500

[joe100]

I love it when folks come here to the experts then set about arguing authenticity when it's clearly, at best, fake

[GeoGio Greece]

The only wise action now IMO is to open the back and see.

It has many details of a TUDOR, despite the fact that someone had changes a few bits and added also a plaquete with a Rolex Geneve.

I trust that it is a Tudor, to my eye it is very detailed to be a copy.

[Mark020]

+1. First time I've seen such a fake btw.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by ZakSgp

Never seen one with a cyclop rotated like that or 'Rolex Geneve' it looks like you have a fake on your hands.

tudors had rolex geneve on casebacks like that. still not enough to say it's real. but it just might be a redialed tudor (which would surprise me) but the endlinks aren't as atrocious as i thought they'd be. but it appears 455 endlink oyster bracelets are uhh, non existant? seems like it would be a jubilee.


Movement pics are necessary.


http://www.matthewbaininc.com/assets...or-79160-z.jpg


pull off the bracelet and tell us if theres a model number and serial number between the lugs. post model # and S/N in a 999XXX format. that tudor has the same dial. but where the tudor stuff would've been it's replaced with rolex. and it has a functional cyclops and the lume dots that are exactly like my vintage rolex, and the tudor i posted above. also another thing that leads me to believe is its a tudor is the automatic chrono time written in the same place as tudor did on there dial.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by andromeda160

tudors had rolex geneve on casebacks like that. still not enough to say it's real. but it just might be a redialed tudor (which would surprise me) but the endlinks aren't as atrocious as i thought they'd be. but it appears 455 endlink oyster bracelets are uhh, non existant? seems like it would be a jubilee.


Movement pics are necessary.


http://www.matthewbaininc.com/assets...or-79160-z.jpg


pull off the bracelet and tell us if theres a model number and serial number between the lugs. post model # and S/N in a 999XXX format. that tudor has the same dial. but where the tudor stuff would've been it's replaced with rolex. and it has a functional cyclops and the lume dots that are exactly like my vintage rolex, and the tudor i posted above. also another thing that leads me to believe is its a tudor is the automatic chrono time written in the same place as tudor did on there dial.

heres my updated thoughts on this watch. I think it's a tudor with a modded dial, the shield was pulled off replaced with the crown. put a what i believe to be an aftermarket rolex bracelet on it. put a square that says rolex over the original tudor name. and kept everything else the same.

the only way to confirm this is to take off the bracelet and post pics of in between the lugs, and a movement shot.

Why do I think this
same caseback as a tudor
same dial as a tudor with the exception of the rolex crown (which appears genuine) and a square that fits right over where a tudor name would've been.
The bracelet would've been a jubillee type bracelet, and the 455 endlink only turned up fake bracelets for me.
the hands are the same as tudor hands and have patina to match a 70's or 80's watch.
the lume dots at the markers are of rolex quality and type. and the sticks on the dial resemble a tudor stick dial.
chrono time written in tudor fashion over the 6' oclock sub dial.

all in all, I think that theres too many things that scream tudor, that would be too much to put in a fake watch. but at the same time im puzzled why somone would take a tudor and fake a rolex with it, although back im sure these big blocks could be picked up extremely cheap.

[Knappo 1307]

Was the Swiss guy selling them in Cancun on the beach? If so I saw that guy about a month ago. He's alive and doing fine......

[Kingair]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Was the Swiss guy selling them in Cancun on the beach? If so I saw that guy about a month ago. He's alive and doing fine......

Does he also sell Swiss cheese . . . or at least the holes . . .

HAGOne

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by Kingair

Does he also sell Swiss cheese . . . or at least the holes . . .

HAGOne

[datejust24]

but also notice how the lume dots dont line up with the sticks on the dial? I'm not disagreeing that it ISN'T a Tudor but...just an observation.

[andromeda160]

Originally Posted by datejust24

but also notice how the lume dots dont line up with the sticks on the dial? I'm not disagreeing that it ISN'T a Tudor but...just an observation.

interesting point. I just want pictures. because its driving me nuts whether this is a defaced work of art or a failed forgery.