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Old 19 August 2013, 11:40 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. I currently own a Submariner Date (SS, black dial - 16610) and an Air King (SS, white dial - 14010). Both have original box and papers. I recently saw a DateJust II (116334) at a jeweler and fell in love with it. Would my two watches be a fair trade for a DateJust II? Am I coming up short or am I giving too much? I'm clearly not an expert and am looking for a little guidance here before pursuing this. The DateJust II I want is the SS with white gold bezel. Any help you can provide would be appreciated. And, if you need more information to provide your opinion, please let me know.
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Old 19 August 2013, 11:47 PM   #2
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I would not trade two for one and especially if it meant giving up the Sub.

I am all for getting what you want and like to wear but I do not think this is a good deal.
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Old 19 August 2013, 11:53 PM   #3
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Keep the Sub, sell the Airking, and save for the rest.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:11 AM   #4
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I had a feeling that this would be the response. Is there a reason that everyone always tells me to keep the Submariner? Is it because of how classic and iconic it is? Please help me understand the logic here. One jeweler told me that while the DateJust II is nice, it is a new design and pretty much not established - obviously, the Submariner is the opposite. Is this what you guys think?
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:11 AM   #5
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I'd keep them both and save up.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:16 AM   #6
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I had a feeling that this would be the response. Is there a reason that everyone always tells me to keep the Submariner? Is it because of how classic and iconic it is? Please help me understand the logic here. One jeweler told me that while the DateJust II is nice, it is a new design and pretty much not established - obviously, the Submariner is the opposite. Is this what you guys think?
Not trying to be a smarta$$ but there is no logic here.

The Sub is iconic. If you like the Datejust, then get it and wear it. You asked for help and a trade evaluation. My advice remains, I would not trade two for one and especially not the Sub.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:26 AM   #7
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beshannon - I didn't realize asking follow-up questions was frowned upon. More, I didn't personally ask you for additional commentary, so if I'm bothering you, feel free to not simply disassociate yourself from this conversation. I'm just trying to get additional insight on this potential deal by people who know far more than I, which requires the asking of questions. It's that simple. Thank you for your help.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:28 AM   #8
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beshannon - I didn't realize asking follow-up questions was frowned upon. More, I didn't personally ask you for additional commentary, so if I'm bothering you, feel free to not simply disassociate yourself from this conversation. I'm just trying to get additional insight on this potential deal by people who know far more than I, which requires the asking of questions. It's that simple. Thank you for your help.
Wow

Followup questions are not frowned upon

You did ask for commentary but you are not bothering me

Best of luck, I am now sorry I tried to help you.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:31 AM   #9
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Even if you're sorry you tried to help me, you did in fact help me and I'm appreciative. Thank you.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:41 AM   #10
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If you have no interest in the watches you have, trade them for what you want. No point in holding onto dead weight
If you regret selling the Sub down the road, there is a chance you just might find one for sale. It's not as though they are rare or anything.
Whatever you decide, enjoy
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:44 AM   #11
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I personally wouldn't trade what you have for a DJ but I think you should go with your gut. Either way, you'll have a great watch!
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Old 20 August 2013, 01:00 AM   #12
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The trade is about right money wise IMO, however, this trade really should be more about your own desires as you will probably own the new watch for a long time. Go with your gut. Good luck...
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Old 20 August 2013, 01:05 AM   #13
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If your a fan or collector of Rolex watches you need to own a sub, simple as that
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Old 20 August 2013, 01:50 AM   #14
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Value wise you're fine. You just need to decide if you'd rather have the DJ2 or the Sub and AK.
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Old 20 August 2013, 02:29 AM   #15
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I would keep the sub and trade the AK, once you get the DJII you probably won't wear the AK. I would keep the sub just to have one dress and a sports model. Whatever you decide it's a Rolex, Good Luck.
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Old 20 August 2013, 02:36 AM   #16
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The DJII is a great watch and won't be changed for a long time. I would make this trade in a heart beat.
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Old 20 August 2013, 02:38 AM   #17
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You have two nice watches, hold on to both of them. The DJII will be around for a long time and you will have plenty of time to save up for it.
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Old 20 August 2013, 02:46 AM   #18
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Sub no airking yes
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Old 20 August 2013, 04:08 AM   #19
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what is trade in value for sub and air king?

even steven trade? post the numbers.
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Old 20 August 2013, 04:21 AM   #20
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I will be very surprised... if... he will trade even... with you....Your used two... for new his DJ-II-41MM
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Old 20 August 2013, 04:41 AM   #21
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Keep the Sub, sell the Airking, and save for the rest.
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Old 20 August 2013, 04:46 AM   #22
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do what makes you happiest...all depends on how much wrist time and enjoyment you get out of your current watches.... you already know what you want to do....
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Old 20 August 2013, 07:59 AM   #23
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They're offering $4,400 for the Sub and $1,500 for the AirKing. They haven't confirmed a willingness yet, but I told them this would be a no-cash deal that I'd only consider if it was a straight trade. Thoughts?
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Old 20 August 2013, 08:08 AM   #24
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Keep the Sub, sell the Airking, and save for the rest.
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Old 20 August 2013, 11:13 AM   #25
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Keep the Sub, sell the Airking, and save for the rest.
Sound advice
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:18 PM   #26
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I had a feeling that this would be the response. Is there a reason that everyone always tells me to keep the Submariner? Is it because of how classic and iconic it is? Please help me understand the logic here. One jeweler told me that while the DateJust II is nice, it is a new design and pretty much not established - obviously, the Submariner is the opposite. Is this what you guys think?
From my (and many) other people's experience, not how we "think". Usually, once you sell your sub away, you'll yearn for one again pretty soon. Then you'll have double the loss since you sold/traded your sub for a "lower" than market value, and then you'll have to buy again some time in the future where there is a chance the price has risen.
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Keep the Sub, sell the Airking, and save for the rest.
This is what I would do.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:27 PM   #28
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It depends what kind of guy you are. If you are a one watch guy (which it doesn't sound like since you own two Rolex watches already) then sell as many as you can to get that one special watch. The Datejust II is already an icon. It's DNA is unchanged from its predecessor. It's a great single watch to own in my opinion. After securing a GMT Master II in a few years, I will be in the market for the rhodium, Arabic numeral stainless Datejust II myself.

If you are building a collection (no matter how small) the Submariner is a must have. My Submariner is my beater but it is also my most sentimental piece because it was my first and has special meaning for me. Regardless of these personal feelings, the Submariner is the icon and in my humble opinion you don't have a Rolex collection unless a Sub or GMT is part of it.
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:28 PM   #29
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The DJII is a very nice watch and I would have no problem wearing it every day. That said, I don't own one and a have more than one sub. Good luck with your decision!
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:43 PM   #30
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This is what I would do.
x 5 or 6 I lost track....keep the Sub, flip the AirKing
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