Rolex day date oman

[Nathanbzr]

Hi can anyone help me. The pictures attached is this genuine? The president bracelet looks dirty but could it be fake gold that's rusted?. The fact it has an oman dial does this add value or decrease.

Any help is much apriciated

[Nathanbzr]

I have added more pics in the reply as the first post would not let me add more than 1

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[Chrispare]

I am not an expert but quite sure the sign Oman adds value

[Nathanbzr]

where do Rolex Oman watches originate from? Are they somthing that was available at an ad or where they from specific country's

[omitohud]

If the watch checks out to b all authentic, its a very expensive watch, more valuable than regular ones. Cant tell from pictures if the band is definitely authentic. U need to show all the markings. It could b just dirt that can b cleaned like new. If u notice, there is also dirt around the bezel.

From my understanding, these were given by the sultan, so u cant get them from AD.


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[Nathanbzr]

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[Nathanbzr]

Thanks for the responses I have uploaded more pictures. I'm hoping the bracelet is real gold just the black marks do worry me

[jay1988]

Originally Posted by Nathanbzr

where do Rolex Oman watches originate from? Are they somthing that was available at an ad or where they from specific country's

Well they originate from Oman I believe.

The Sultan of Oman was a big collector and I think he ordered the custom watches. I believe he commissioned many watches including a diamond Daytona that went for a ridiculous price recently

[brettpaul]

Originally Posted by Nathanbzr

Hi can anyone help me. The pictures attached is this genuine? The president bracelet looks dirty but could it be fake gold that's rusted?. The fact it has an oman dial does this add value or decrease.

Any help is much apriciated

The watch appears to be authentic and having the Sultan if Omans crest on the dial adds to the value, but not significantly IMHO. I live in the Middle East and have seen many if these pieces - several Datejusts and Presidents, but few Subs, GMTs, and only 1 Daytona. The SS pieces are the most valuable without question - with a normal Day Date of similar age and condition going for $10-11k USD, this one may be worth a couple thousand more.

These watches are bought in quantity by the Sultan and given as gifts on formal occasions.

Best of luck!

[Chadridv]

I'm no expert in authenticity. The Omani presentation does add rarity to the watch. That is a beautiful example. Here's my TT Omani Datejust.

[Old Expat Beast]

Value-boost depends on the watch, and how many were made. There are different types of Omani crest, varying in design depending on who they were given to (family, friends, business, etc). Do a Google search, there's plenty of info out there.

[Nycturbovr6]

Very interesting

[overthehill]

hmmm interesting..

[crowncollection]

The crest adds value, band jet looks very dirty to me, better shots of the band markings would help

[pfg1]

In my opinion, branded dials of any kind diminish the value of a Rolex. The only exception would be Tiffany & Co.....and even then, I would take a pass versus an unbranded dial. Just my personal taste.

[Nathanbzr]

I will get a picture of the markings today

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Nathanbzr

Hi can anyone help me. The pictures attached is this genuine? The president bracelet looks dirty but could it be fake gold that's rusted?. The fact it has an oman dial does this add value or decrease.

Any help is much apriciated

There are many Rolex watches with various middle east sultans insignia on the dial some of the most valuable and very collectible ones are the early sports watches subs SD etc. It was around 1970,that Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father from his throne, and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued,but many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there was a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers,they came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, TOG, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars etc to these people money was no object.But for any Oman watch to have any added value it must have the appropriate documentation or providence from Rolex as there are many faked Oman dials.

[Chrispare]

Originally Posted by padi56

There are many Rolex watches with various middle east sultans insignia on the dial some of the most valuable and very collectible ones are the early sports watches subs SD etc. It was around 1970,that Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father from his throne, and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued,but many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there was a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers,they came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, TOG, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars etc to these people money was no object.But for any Oman watch to have any added value it must have the appropriate documentation or providence from Rolex as there are many faked Oman dials.

Impressive knowledge and history
Thank you

[steptoe]

Originally Posted by pfg1

In my opinion, branded dials of any kind diminish the value of a Rolex. The only exception would be Tiffany & Co.....and even then, I would take a pass versus an unbranded dial. Just my personal taste.

I was at an auction last year which had both Tiffany and Oman dialled watches..

The Omani dialed day date made £26,000 plus 20% buyers premium



The gold Tiffany dialled 1029 made £5200.




And a Tiffany explorer II made £5000.

[77T]

Originally Posted by padi56

There are many Rolex watches with various middle east sultans insignia on the dial some of the most valuable and very collectible ones are the early sports watches subs SD etc. It was around 1970,that Qaboos bin Said Al Said ousted his father from his throne, and has ruled as sultan of Oman ever since.The British (SAS) and several Arab Nations sent well-trained forces to assist the Sultan, and the rebels were defeated. Legend has it that the Special Forces suffered heavy losses, and only 7 Special Forces Officers survived. As a token of his appreciation, Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said presented them each with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Gold. Also several Local Officers were presented with a Rolex Sea Dweller ref 1665 with the Nations Coat of Arms printed on the dial in Red. I am not sure how many of these were issued,but many middle east sultans had there coat of arms added to Rolex watches, in fact there was a special department in Rolex H/Q to oversee these matters.During the 1970s and 1980s it was not only Subs and Sea-Dwellers,they came in Presidents, Datejusts , Dates, TOG, and Airkings. Back in that era it was quite common for the Middle Eastern Kings to display their names and Family and counties Symbols all over watches, cars etc to these people money was no object.But for any Oman watch to have any added value it must have the appropriate documentation or providence from Rolex as there are many faked Oman dials.

Agree 100%

This is the best description of how and why the various custom royal crested dials came about. The key for anyone considering one - and any uplifted/deflated valuation - is the provenance. For example, one made for the Sultan himself would fetch much more than one made as a broader gift to dozens of people.

A key attribute that is important to recall is this: anyone can silk screen a dial, any dial can be swapped, original date wheels are important indicators (for example, one in abjadī order would indicate an Arabic speaking owner). Too often cobbled examples are found without papers or records from RSC.

That said, my 2¢ for the OP is to have this piece reviewed and certified as genuine by the RSC - it appears you have unfettered access to it based on the many pictures you've been able to take. Much luck on the verification.

[Oyster99]

Originally Posted by steptoe

I was at an auction last year which had both Tiffany and Oman dialled watches..

The Omani dialed day date made £26,000 plus 20% buyers premium



The gold Tiffany dialled 1029 made £5200.




And a Tiffany explorer II made £5000.

I think you want to take the explorer back to the AD for magnification it looks bad and it may be a fake.

[Nathanbzr]

Hi thanks for all your responses I am a Rolex enthusiasts so it's good to widen the knowledge. I have attached z better photo of the bracelet so does anyone have a rough idea if it looks legit

[padi56]

Its possible the watch bracelet could be legit but as for the dial afraid without provenance its just a painted dial and most all gold can and will tarnish but easily cleaned.

[steptoe]

Originally Posted by Oyster99

I think you want to take the explorer back to the AD for magnification it looks bad and it may be a fake.

Not my watch, and i wouldn't base an opinion on a picture i've taken with my phone from the sale catalogue ... And you'd best let Bonhams watch departament know your doubts about the authenticity

[Lgear080]

To my knowledge the Omani watches came in presentation boxes... Have you got that
By chance? It would be impossible to authenticate otherwise without very good dial scans.
There are some unique characteristics of this print on the correct and authentic ones.

[THC]

Maybe the bracelet has sand in it