116610LV Really good fake or real?

[GLADIATOR]

very Interesting. I truly hope the OP takes it to an AD/RSC.

Then we can learn exactly, true or fake?

OK
I then realized more
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Just an update for you guys, i took the watch to RSC Beverly Hills.

First of all they told me they will not confiscate a fake watch, only a stolen watch if it was reported to them.

They took the watch apart and told me they would service it they even gave me a paper invoice type of thing with the serial # , the watch condition, ect... . I would assume they can check the serial number and movement serial number. I guess they could not know what they are doing but it would seem strange if even they cant tell.

So watch is genuine - I am relieved to hear it - two reasons:
1) I thought it was (phew!)
2) The movement and dial looked to perfect for me

Thanks to all
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[mastermixer]

I also found the pics below interesting...

When looking at the watch i took to RSC Service It says "Rolex" and then under it says "Geneva Swiss"


First Picture: when I look online at 3135 movements a lot of them say "Montres Rolex S.A" Then Under "Geneva"

And then In the second picture is the movement picture from Rolex Website where it says "Rolex" and then Under it says "Geneva Swiss" same as the one I have in my possession.

Do they have different movement stampings like that among the 3135s?

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

very Interesting. I truly hope the OP takes it to an AD/RSC.

Then we can learn exactly, true or fake?

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op states they did take it to rsc and they "took it apart".

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

ok, based on the images you posted; a factory rolex center took it apart and said they'd service it? is this correct? you have an intake ticket from a RSC?

Yes RSC Beverly Hills took the watch apart and said they would service it and gave me basically a servicing invoice if I wanted to proceed it would be $600.00

[Chewbacca]

and fwiw, the inner buckle stamping it wrong too.

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

op states they did take it to rsc and they "took it apart".

By took it apart I just mean they took it in the back and did whatever they did to evaluate... im not saying I know specifically what they did as far as what parts where taken out ect...

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

op states they did take it to rsc and they "took it apart".

Hi
Yes, I missed the thread continued. I did update my post
Sorry to that.
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[mastermixer]

This is what they gave me....

[Chewbacca]

and OP, just want to iterate this is in no way a verdict on you; but you started a thread and its now going through the motions to help you and others at large.

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

and OP, just want to iterate this is in no way a verdict on you; but you started a thread and its now going through the motions to help you and others at large.

I agree Im just trying to find out as much as everyone else . The only reason I made the thread in the first place is because something seemed off.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by mastermixer

This is what they gave me....

it looks brand new!

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

it looks brand new!

I know right! I was surprised at all the stuff the put... I can only imagine a watch that is actually damaged lol.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

ok, based on the images you posted; a factory rolex center took it apart and said they'd service it? is this correct? you have an intake ticket from a RSC?

They should be able to examine fit and finish of the case and bracelet and movement with a 10X loupe and tell whether the thing is real or a higher end Swiss replica. And if you do a little Google search, you will find the images of the Swiss made replicas almost too real looking. The movements are made with ETA parts, but they are made to look like an exact clone of a 3135 caliber.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by mastermixer

I know right! I was surprised at all the stuff the put... I can only imagine a watch that is actually damaged lol.

wow! i need to get estimates from rsc bevhills next time. clean, polish and out the door... why even service it now? even the indice is fixed.

[mastermixer]

What Indice?

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

wow! i need to get estimates from rsc bevhills next time. clean, polish and out the door... why even service it now? even the indice is fixed.

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

wow! i need to get estimates from rsc bevhills next time. clean, polish and out the door... why even service it now? even the indice is fixed.

They didnt clean or polish it btw , all they did was a service estimate. thats just what the watch looks like.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by mastermixer

They didnt clean or polish it btw , thats just what the watch looks like.

So I'm assuming you already bought and own this watch? Are you going to have it serviced by the RSC? FWI, I see it has 10 links on the bracelet according to RSC paperwork. It is missing 2 full links plus a 1/2 link.
And if the watch is 100% genuine, the pics had me fooled and I apologize.
Let us know what happens.

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by Sublover2166

So I'm assuming you already bought and own this watch? Are you going to have it serviced by the RSC? FWI, I see it has 10 links on the bracelet according to RSC paperwork. It is missing 2 full links plus a 1/2 link.
And if the watch is 100% genuine, the pics had me fooled and I apologize.
Let us know what happens.

No I did not purchase it yet, I wanted to take it to RSC first. I think I am just going to give it back to the owner though. Even if its real its wonky or something. I mostly just wanted to know for my own informational purposes.

[Velox]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

i'm pretty sure thats a swiss 1/1 replica. the movement stamping, font sizes is a giveaway but so is the detail on the face indices and the engraves rehaute. patina on a 2yr old max rolex? never.

i'm not 100%, but i am 99%.

really curious to hear Bas' opinion on this one.

Swiss replicas don't exist, A term used by scam replica sites. Chinese 1:1 replicas do exist.Problem is the 1:1 replicas can be fitted with genuine parts Even the latest 3135 1:1 super clone movement can be fitted with gen movement parts. Scary for buyers with untrained eyes like me

[mastermixer]

Here are some closer pics of movement under microscope

[breitlings]

i think this is fake. imo...

[crowncollection]

hmmm super clones are around but they cannot replicate a rolex movement to the trained eye imho. As for all this it's off, what does that mean ?? we need to remain objective here and factual.

To the OP rolex changed the markings on their movements quite a while ago, the 3135 was first produced is over 25 years ago, they have changed the stampings on more recent versions regards

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by mastermixer

I also found the pics below interesting...

When looking at the watch i took to RSC Service It says "Rolex" and then under it says "Geneva Swiss"


First Picture: when I look online at 3135 movements a lot of them say "Montres Rolex S.A" Then Under "Geneva"

And then In the second picture is the movement picture from Rolex Website where it says "Rolex" and then Under it says "Geneva Swiss" same as the one I have in my possession.

Do they have different movement stampings like that among the 3135s?

pics not showing could just be me can you repost cheers

Originally Posted by mastermixer

Here are some closer pics of movement under microscope

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

hmmm super clones are around but they cannot replicate a rolex movement to the trained eye imho. As for all this it's off, what does that mean ?? we need to remain objective here and factual.

To the OP rolex changed the markings on their movements quite a while ago, the 3135 was first produced is over 25 years ago, they have changed the stampings on more recent versions regards

I'm not an expert and if you say its real I believe it but I was talking about:
1 inner clasp looks wrong
2 the machining on the movement looks a bit crude.
3 I'm not 100% on the cermaic bezel either?

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by breitlings

I'm not an expert and if you say its real I believe it but I was talking about:
1 inner clasp looks wrong
2 the machining on the movement looks a bit crude.
3 I'm not 100% on the cermaic bezel either?

no problem, at least you give reasons which is fine, we all can have an opinion that is what it is all about in this section.

ps. we all know rolex is not as perfect as some think with their quality control as per many other threads on this forum lately lol cheers

[mastermixer]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

no problem, at least you give reasons which is fine, we all can have an opinion that is what it is all about in this section.

ps. we all know rolex is not as perfect as some think with their quality control as per many other threads on this forum lately lol cheers

Did the pictures up close of the movement show now?

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

hmmm super clones are around but they cannot replicate a rolex movement to the trained eye imho. As for all this it's off, what does that mean ?? we need to remain objective here and factual.

Agreed.
The movement and dial were just too close to a Rolex genuine - OP took some great movement shots, the latest ones especially. - A most interesting and professionally commented on thread.
Thanks to all
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[subtona]

Originally Posted by subtona

After taking a good look at photos, I concur with others this is an a obvious fake.

Originally Posted by mastermixer

Just an update for you guys, i took the watch to RSC Beverly Hills.

First of all they told me they will not confiscate a fake watch, only a stolen watch if it was reported to them.

They took the watch apart and told me they would service it they even gave me a paper invoice type of thing with the serial # , the watch condition, ect... . I would assume they can check the serial number and movement serial number. I guess they could not know what they are doing but it would seem strange if even they cant tell.

I guess the pics did not represent well or I'm due for an optometrist visit?

The bracelet looks very odd to me and the finishing looks poor in the original pics.

[locutus49]

It looks like the old LV not the Lvc. I own a Hulk.

[Sublover2166]

I took this pic off a site called Solid Swiss.