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Old 14 March 2016, 07:40 AM   #1
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2016 Toyota Camry XLE vs 2016 Lexus ES 350 is the Es 350 worth the extra money?

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I'm thinking about buying a new car. But I'm stuck between the 2016 Camry and the 2016 Es 350. I know that the Es 350 has a better warranty then the Camry and the gas mileage is a little close on both models. But the price is a little different. I'm just wondering if the 2016 Es 350 is worth the extra money. I currently have a 15 year Toyota Camry with 241,000 miles on it. It's about time to replace it.
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Old 14 March 2016, 09:17 AM   #2
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Yes. Absolutely.

No question.

100%.

But only you can decide if it's worth it to you.

I love cars. For me, driving a Lexus vs a Toyota is not even a question.

Not to say Toyota is a bad car. It's not. It's a great car. But it is not a Lexus by any stretch of the imagination. Not even close.
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Old 14 March 2016, 09:31 AM   #3
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to me, they're both great commuter cars and mile eaters but the Camry XLE V6 with all options and a new Rolex or two is better than a ES350 on its own.

but you should drive the Nissan Maxima and Q50 from Infinity if japanese reliability and brisk driving are a consideration.
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Old 14 March 2016, 10:12 AM   #4
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to me, they're both great commuter cars and mile eaters but the Camry XLE V6 with all options and a new Rolex or two is better than a ES350 on its own.

but you should drive the Nissan Maxima and Q50 from Infinity if japanese reliability and brisk driving are a consideration.
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Considering Camrys get face lifts a lot more often, I would go with the ES to avoid my covetousness when a new Camry gets released. Plus Lexus has designs that last a lot longer than Toyota does IMO.
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Old 14 March 2016, 10:38 AM   #6
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Common sense dictates that the "best" vehicle to buy is 'the cheapest reliable vehicle that meets your needs'.
But that's not how we buy cars is it.
I would venture to say that most vehicles are bought predominantly with the heart rather than the head.
In the final analysis it should be about what you can afford. People with high disposable incomes can buy successive Rolls Royce and 'common sense' be damned.
At the moment I would buy the Camry - but if the economy ever recovers from the GFC I will probably buy the Lexus. It's all relative.
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Old 14 March 2016, 10:41 AM   #7
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How the hell did you put 241,000 miles on a 2015 camry?

Aside from that....Id say yes if you value service at the dealer and a quiet smooth ride.
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Old 14 March 2016, 10:52 AM   #8
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How the hell did you put 241,000 miles on a 2015 camry?

Aside from that....Id say yes if you value service at the dealer and a quiet smooth ride.

Lol it's a 15 year old Camry, not a 2015 Camry. I re-read that sentence too.
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I thought the es350 was based on the Avalon now?

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Old 14 March 2016, 11:29 AM   #10
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Interior fit and finish is definitely a step up from Camry.

You have to like the Lexus front end though.

Warranty should be the same?

You do pay more for Lexus service.

The price differential is what you have to figure out for yourself whether it is worth it or not. Basic Toyota vs premium Lexus.

You need to sit in and drive both.
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Lol it's a 15 year old Camry, not a 2015 Camry. I re-read that sentence too.
lol. It's a 2000 Toyota Camry.
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Old 14 March 2016, 11:40 AM   #12
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Interior fit and finish is definitely a step up from Camry.

You have to like the Lexus front end though.

Warranty should be the same?

You do pay more for Lexus service.

The price differential is what you have to figure out for yourself whether it is worth it or not. Basic Toyota vs premium Lexus.

You need to sit in and drive both.
The Camry has a 36000 3 year warranty
Lexus has 50,000 4 or 5 year warranty
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Old 14 March 2016, 12:54 PM   #13
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Buy the Toyota buya Rolex with the savings.....a Rolex will appreciate the automobile won't
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Old 15 March 2016, 01:03 AM   #14
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Old 15 March 2016, 05:56 AM   #15
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They both share a lot in common:
- K platform
- 2GR-FE 3.5l V6 (which dates to 2004)
- Same 6speed auto transmission
- Both built in Kentucky

What's different
- ES350 has same wheelbase as the Avalon

The meet and potatoes of both cars are more or less the same. The choice boils down to warranty, looks, and option packages.
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Old 15 March 2016, 06:15 AM   #16
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Such a tough question. Just imagine if Tudor puts the 3130 movement in the Black Bay then we can ask the same question with a Sub vs Tudor Black Bay.

Having owned a Camry, they are fantastic cars (as is the ES). If brand/image isn't important I'd go for the XLE and buy another Rolex.
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Old 15 March 2016, 08:04 AM   #17
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The Camry has a 36000 3 year warranty
Lexus has 50,000 4 or 5 year warranty
Nice.

I would go with Lexus then if you like the look, drive, interior.
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Old 16 March 2016, 01:00 AM   #18
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The Lexus if it's an option.
Just as reliable as the Camry with a much nicer interior/dash.
If your riding for another 250k, at least enjoy it.
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Old 16 March 2016, 05:45 AM   #19
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I would pick the Lexus if you have money left for a nice Rolex.

Otherwise I would pick the Toyota and use the saving for a nice Rolex

What I may do is to pick a less than 3 yr old certified pre-owned Lexus / Toyota / Acura / Honda / Nissan / Infiniti, enjoy the extended warranty, and use the saving to buy yet another Rolex :D

WIN-WIN :)
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http://www.autotrader.com/car-review...ference-229780

Avalon is also an option...
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Old 18 March 2016, 06:49 AM   #21
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I would pick the Lexus if you have money left for a nice Rolex.

Otherwise I would pick the Toyota and use the saving for a nice Rolex

What I may do is to pick a less than 3 yr old certified pre-owned Lexus / Toyota / Acura / Honda / Nissan / Infiniti, enjoy the extended warranty, and use the saving to buy yet another Rolex :D

WIN-WIN :)
Great idea
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Old 18 March 2016, 06:50 AM   #22
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Such a tough question. Just imagine if Tudor puts the 3130 movement in the Black Bay then we can ask the same question with a Sub vs Tudor Black Bay.

Having owned a Camry, they are fantastic cars (as is the ES). If brand/image isn't important I'd go for the XLE and buy another Rolex.
The brand Isn't important to me. It's just something about the Lexus ES 350. I just love that car. I still like the Camry but just not as much.
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Old 18 March 2016, 07:04 AM   #23
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We've been driving nothing but Lexus since 1991. Currently I have a 2002 SC430 (we live in an apartment that's one block from our Metro) and my wife has a 2014 LS 460. I would opt for the Lexus, but then I'm biased.
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Old 18 March 2016, 11:46 AM   #24
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Just lease the Lexus, keep your money, and automatically get the latest n greatest in 3yrs....
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Just lease the Lexus, keep your money, and automatically get the latest n greatest in 3yrs....
This is a good one
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Get what works for you - they're both decent cars. I'm still trying to warm up to the new Lexus design language...
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Old 19 March 2016, 11:07 PM   #27
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Get what works for you - they're both decent cars. I'm still trying to warm up to the new Lexus design language...
Thank you
What new Lexus design language ?
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Thank you
What new Lexus design language ?
The spindle grill tends to be abrasive to some and a departure from its prior conservative looks.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...spindle-grille
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I would get the Toyota and pocket the savings.....as somebody else said you could buy another Rolex with it. Im old and most new cars to me are all just FWD econocars in some form a fashion. You can go wrong with a Camry. My Neighbor across the street owns a chain of auto repair shops and is a Mustang freak like myself was telling how bad Nissan with CVT trans are and avoid them.
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