AD lied, Daytona C madness...

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by scooba

If it is exactly as I read the OP , if it was me in your shoes I would defo be walking in and having that chat, As above calmly looking for a honest explanation , even if the news was bad news I would want to know how it had gone so horribly wrong, Then calmly explain I would be voting with my feet and taking my $$ some where else to spend ,The damage is done !, Trust gone ,

Well said

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

In other words, they are very sorry they got caught red handed backdooring you, and if you are patient with them they will try to get you your watch before you catch them doing it again.

These guys are DB's. But, you won't get the D500 any faster going to another AD. If it were me, I'd walk away from the watch and this AD unless they are willing to knock a bunch off of retail to keep your business.

Nah.

Play nice. Take delivery. Flip watch on eBay, no reserve , with the warranty card as the cover image

Post your story in the description.

[eco8gator]

Hopefully that extra special deal is a 10% discount on the purchase... Consider the amount of money that AD has made off of you they should give you the watch for free:)

[Gaijin]

This happened to me by my old AD. "You're next!." "You're next!"




Uh-huh. This went on for a year and a half until a disgruntled fired ex employee of the AD that I ran into at the gym told me that many SS Daytonas went out the back door while I was getting stroked being told that I was "next."

I was done talking to the manager. I demanded to talk to the owner. I had spent myself in there and referred well over $100,000.


So I was "penciled in" to meet with him at 3:00. Smug chap as our brothers across the pond say. Didn't stand up when I walked in. Just leaned back in his reclining office chair. This made me go from firm and adamant to you "smug silver spoon in mouth never had a real world job, disrespectful no class punk." He had inherited the AD from his father. Probably early thirties. Never shook my hand.

I started the conversation by telling him that I knew that this was private property and he could ask me to leave anytime he wanted but I was going to get a few things off my chest." At the time I was a cop so I didn't want to get an IA beef over me losing my cool with him.

I laid into him, politely, he made excuses and told me the ex-employee was disgruntled and had been fired and was making this all up. I then meticulously laid down who I knew the 3 SS Daytonas had gone to while I was "next." What colors the dials were even.

Him. Silence.

I told him he had one month to get me a SS Daytona or he would never see me again or my wallet or any referrals.

I "got the call" about 10 days later. They would not let me leave the store without having something engraved on the back. I had my initials engraved.


That store and the sister store have since gone out of business.

Don't let the AD play you. I got played. I'll never get caught up in the SS Daytona hype again.

[Furbo]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

Don't let the AD play you. I got played. I'll never get caught up in the SS Daytona hype again.

Me neither, daytonas are only selling because of perceived scarcity.
My friend also fell for the daytona hype, when I showed him hundreds of daytonas for sale on chrono24 website his eyes almost fell out.

[Jonnyred72]

In the meantime, it would be cool for the OP to show photos of the PM and PPs he has recently bought-a nice distraction while everybody is waiting for an outcome???

[Watch This]

Originally Posted by Jonnyred72

In the meantime, it would be cool for the OP to show photos of the PM and PPs he has recently bought-a nice distraction while everybody is waiting for an outcome???

Sounds to me like you are looking for proof. None required as far as I am concerned.

[theken]

Originally Posted by VinnieVegas

Awesome BLNR!

We have similar post-watch purchase instincts. When I got my Daytona, I took it to be fitted and walked to a McDonalds and enjoyed a coffee & apple pie. No biggie. Seemed like the right thing to do!

Love it...a TRF tradition is born...just like the AD diet coke experience.
Taking your new watch out to lunch at McDonalds

[jinikari01]

Originally Posted by Jonnyred72

In the meantime, it would be cool for the OP to show photos of the PM and PPs he has recently bought-a nice distraction while everybody is waiting for an outcome???

You can search all of the OP's incoming your self.
You will also get a hint who the AD in the situation maybe in that search.
Good luck.

[77T]

As I've already said earlier - the OP's ire is understandable. But some of the later posts brought me back.

Do we expect special treatment because I did this or that for you to deserve it...or "you promised me"?

Well here's the thing...we're not so special when the pool is wide and deep at an AD. We're a customer among thousands of others. For each of us who spent $X over Y years, there's bound to be someone who spent twice that over double the years. That's where a trusted TRF seller is better IMHO.

The OP didn't rant or rave - so not aiming this his way - but I hope this little story I just wove helps illuminate a possible sign that some of us may have a "Sense Of Entitlement" complex


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[alanc]

Originally Posted by KarlS

The issue isn't around the contractual obligation to provide a watch against the deposit as this still may be fulfilled. The question is whether it is the first watch in the AD. If the contract is time bound whereby the AD had to provide it by a specific date then I guess there would be an argument for non performance. Think it's a bit tenuous.

Agree. As I read the original post there was no set time for performance, but that the OP was to get the first one in the door. Agree also about the possibility of tenuousness.

[Jonnyred72]

Originally Posted by jinikari01

You can search all of the OP's incoming your self.
You will also get a hint who the AD in the situation maybe in that search.
Good luck.

Why would i do that when OP could just put a photo up? I just want to see some great timepieces....

[shs134]

Originally Posted by crazycarlitos

Not cool.

If they told u that u r first, then u should be first.
On top of that, they have the audacity to tell u they r still waiting for one.
Hahaha

I would just wait for ur DaytonaC to come in (better than getting on another waiting list)... Pay for it (since there are no discount anyways)... Let them know what happened, and that they lost u as a customer.

Then walk out and never return.

Also if u don't mind, share the name of this AD

Exactly my thoughts, get the watch then let them know you will never purchase from them again......revenge is a dessert best served cold!

[shs134]

Originally Posted by 77T

As I've already said earlier - the OP's ire is understandable. But some of the later posts brought me back.

Do we expect special treatment because I did this or that for you to deserve it...or "you promised me"?

Well here's the thing...we're not so special when the pool is wide and deep at an AD. We're a customer among thousands of others. For each of us who spent $X over Y years, there's bound to be someone who spent twice that over double the years. That's where a trusted TRF seller is better IMHO.

The OP didn't rant or rave - so not aiming this his way - but I hope this little story I just wove helps illuminate a possible sign that some of us may have a "Sense Of Entitlement" complex


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I respectfully disagree. This is an integrity and honesty issue regarding the AD. I'm sure if the AD had said to the OP that he was 3rd on the list from the outset and the 2 customers before him were higher spenders than him he would be fine with that. The issue here is that after building a 'relationship' with the AD ( and obviously being a good customer) the AD has lied to him. If they had been honest I'm sure there would be no issue.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by KarlS

The issue isn't around the contractual obligation to provide a watch against the deposit as this still may be fulfilled. The question is whether it is the first watch in the AD. If the contract is time bound whereby the AD had to provide it by a specific date then I guess there would be an argument for non performance. Think it's a bit tenuous.

Not sure what the damages would be, even if everything could be proven.

[m1911a1]

I'm not sure what all of this "chatting" after the fact accomplishes....
They KNEW you would always buy, but saved the first piece for that opportunity sale that randomly walks in the door.
Ergo.... TWO sales.....not that complicated....
Actions....not words speak louder in business....
This is not a marriage where you might stay up all night "discussing" things with your spouse.
Vote with your feet if it truly bothers you....
Personally it wouldn't bother me because I don't get caught up in Rolex's "exclusive-marketing-scarcity program.....
I just buy watches I like....and those that are NOT so popular.....and I can usually survive the wait time if I order one.

[alanc]

Originally Posted by m1911a1

I'm not sure what all of this "chatting" after the fact accomplishes....
They KNEW you would always buy, but saved the first piece for that opportunity sale that randomly walks in the door.
Ergo.... TWO sales.....not that complicated....
Actions....not words speak louder in business....
This is not a marriage where you might stay up all night "discussing" things with your spouse.
Vote with your feet if it truly bothers you....
Personally it wouldn't bother me because I don't get caught up in Rolex's "exclusive-marketing-scarcity program.....
I just buy watches I like....and those that are NOT so popular.....and I can usually survive the wait time if I order one.

Well said - I also refuse to buy into the manufactured scarcity hoopla, and dream instead of five-number references from trusted sellers.

[Mrkamir9]

Something to consider... maybe each sales rep has their own waiting list. This is how they make their money after all isn't it? I was a manager for T-Mobile at one point and each of my sales reps had their own waiting lists for when the new iPhone came out...yes I know it's much different then a Daytona C, but along the same lines. My Reps would take turns as they came in, and it might be the same way in many AD's.

I don't know who told you that you were #1, but maybe you really are...on their list 😬👍🏼


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[artschool]

Originally Posted by theken

Love it...a TRF tradition is born...just like the AD diet coke experience.
Taking your new watch out to lunch at McDonalds

you cannot beat that AD diet coke experience.

The dust free table, the clean glass, the ice and a chilled diet coke.

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by abovedeck

but that when mine does come, she will do something extra special!

Oh boy, I'm sure you will be extremely happy when she gives you a nice Rolex pen. ;)

[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

They would not let me leave the store without having something engraved on the back. I had my initials engraved.

They would not? Huh? You did want it engraved, right?

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Jonnyred72

In the meantime, it would be cool for the OP to show photos of the PM and PPs he has recently bought-a nice distraction while everybody is waiting for an outcome???

Go to our PP forum, plenty of pics there.

[iliketime]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

This happened to me by my old AD. "You're next!." "You're next!"




Uh-huh. This went on for a year and a half until a disgruntled fired ex employee of the AD that I ran into at the gym told me that many SS Daytonas went out the back door while I was getting stroked being told that I was "next."

I was done talking to the manager. I demanded to talk to the owner. I had spent myself in there and referred well over $100,000.


So I was "penciled in" to meet with him at 3:00. Smug chap as our brothers across the pond say. Didn't stand up when I walked in. Just leaned back in his reclining office chair. This made me go from firm and adamant to you "smug silver spoon in mouth never had a real world job, disrespectful no class punk." He had inherited the AD from his father. Probably early thirties. Never shook my hand.

I started the conversation by telling him that I knew that this was private property and he could ask me to leave anytime he wanted but I was going to get a few things off my chest." At the time I was a cop so I didn't want to get an IA beef over me losing my cool with him.

I laid into him, politely, he made excuses and told me the ex-employee was disgruntled and had been fired and was making this all up. I then meticulously laid down who I knew the 3 SS Daytonas had gone to while I was "next." What colors the dials were even.

Him. Silence.

I told him he had one month to get me a SS Daytona or he would never see me again or my wallet or any referrals.

I "got the call" about 10 days later. They would not let me leave the store without having something engraved on the back. I had my initials engraved.


That store and the sister store have since gone out of business.

Don't let the AD play you. I got played. I'll never get caught up in the SS Daytona hype again.

wait you are LEO, what do you mean they would not let you leave without having something engraved?

[rebel_1]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

I'll never get caught up in the SS Daytona hype again.

Me either. In fact, a few years ago, when the SS were supposedly "hard to get" my AD never had an issue getting one in. Same goes for the BLNR or any other Rolex I can think of. I probably waited a total of two weeks for my Platona. As for the new Daytona, I have no clue, mainly because I don't plan on purchasing one. I believe there is a strong demand for this new reference, but I wonder outside of the WIS world, just how much demand there truly is. I can remember a similar hype about the RG YM not to mention the SubC LV, the BLNR or the Deep Blue.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by iliketime

wait you are LEO, what do you mean they would not let you leave without having something engraved?

I think what he means is that they were very insistent on providing some lagniappe in the form of a free engraving and he took them up on the offer.

That's the way I interpret it, anyway.

It was just a turn of phrase.

[77T]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

lagniappe

Wow - that was new word for my vocabulary.


Thanks!


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[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by 77T

Wow - that was new word for my vocabulary.


Thanks!


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[Flstfirider]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

This happened to me by my old AD. "You're next!." "You're next!"


I "got the call" about 10 days later. They would not let me leave the store without having something engraved on the back. I had my initials engraved.


That store and the sister store have since gone out of business.

Don't let the AD play you. I got played. I'll never get caught up in the SS Daytona hype again.

About 8 years ago there were many forum threads about Ben Bridges requiring SS Daytona's to be engraved before leaving the store.

A deal breaker for me!

[Robrob777]

If the watch gets to the display and a walk-in comes, they'll sell it to the walk-in. They won't lose that sale. You are in the waiting list already so you can afford to wait a few weeks more. They won't tell you, but you caught them red hand. Move to another AD.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Flstfirider

About 8 years ago there were many forum threads about Ben Bridges requiring SS Daytona's to be engraved before leaving the store.

A deal breaker for me!

Engrave with what?

Is that up to the customer?

What is the rationale for that?