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Old 3 August 2016, 04:48 AM   #1
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"Entry level Rolexes..."

About the term "Entry level" related to the Rolex line up... Is this a price only thing? Which are the entry level watches? Air King, Explorer and DJ maybe? Myself with a rather big box of watches just bought an entry level Explorer and I guess I'm not alone in this forum. Not important as a subject, but somehow it seems strange to call very iconic models "entry level". Again, price wise maybe. But money was at least for me not a factor when I choosed the Explorer.

I guess I just dont like the term.
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Old 3 August 2016, 04:51 AM   #2
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No such thing as an Entry Level Rolex. Just different models with different prices.

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Old 3 August 2016, 04:55 AM   #3
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"Entry level Rolexes..."

It's just a term which if often based on price relative to other models in the range - don't worry about it.

For example, a Patek 5167 or 5711 is often called the 'entry' Patek, although retail is over $20k. The 'entry' level Greubel Forsey (Signature 1) is over $150,000. Clearly these are only 'entry level' when compared to other models within the brands.

'Entry level' is not the same as an 'entry level watch'. A California T is the cheapest (new) and entry level prancing horse but you wouldn't call it an 'entry' car :)

The Explorer I is a great watch. Who cares if someone calls it an entry Rolex :)


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Old 3 August 2016, 04:58 AM   #4
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No such thing as an Entry Level Rolex. Just different models with different prices.

Enjoy your Explorer!
Yep....a Rolex by any other name would smell as sweet. Enjoy it.
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:00 AM   #5
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Just a term that people throw around based on price alone.

Doesn't really mean anything in this context because the movements aren't different based on price.

Would anyone call any Daytona entry level? Of course not, but it could be applied to the steel model.

Considering that the movement is exactly the same, the steel Daytona could be called the entry level of Rolex chronographs. Only Rolex can change the material to platinum and charge five times the price of steel.
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:02 AM   #6
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You'll only hear that term on here.

Just ignore and enjoy your watch!!
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:05 AM   #7
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Entry level 'price' applies to Rolex as much as any other item from any other brand.

Entry level 'model' isn't a term I would associate with thier line-up, although I've heard it used on the Air King models.
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:16 AM   #8
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No such thing as an Entry Level Rolex. Just different models with different prices.

Enjoy your Explorer!
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:30 AM   #9
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Silliness..... A Rolex, is a Rolex, is a Rolex!

Congratulationson your Explorer!
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:38 AM   #10
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No such thing as an Entry Level Rolex. Just different models with different prices.

Enjoy your Explorer!
Exactly!
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:42 AM   #11
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Hi,

I'd personally say this purely only applies as far as prices are concerned. Rolex quality is identical whether you're buying a so-called "entry level" all-stainless Oyster Perpetual, an all-platinum Day-Date or Daytona, or anything else at all in the entire range. I've certainly owned Rolexes that were all stainless, Rolesor and solid gold, and they all delivered the same excellent experience in terms of performance, reliability and build quality.
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Old 3 August 2016, 05:47 AM   #12
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Of course there is an entry level Rolex - and it is an Explorer II. Just read this:

"The Five Stages of Rolex Ownership
Just something I put together after recently succumbing to the lure of a steel Daytona.

Hope you enjoy.

Denial
I do not now, nor will I ever own a Rolex. They are monstrosities commonly found on the wrists of poseurs, fat cat bankers and vile dictators. Just look at the things, hideous gold and two tone abortions with no horological value. Overpriced and over rated. Give me Omega, give me Oris, give me Squale!

I do quite like the look of that Explorer II though. hmmm?

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Anger
How did it come to this I have bought an Explorer II? Damn it I´m so weak. Well, it´s ok if anyone wants to question my horological relevance I still have a JLC so they can just .... off. Besides I´ll probably sell the Explorer soon anyway, after all it can´t be any good and I bought it on a whim. It´s like being a petrol head and having to own an Alfa, got to be able to say you owned at least one Rolex. right?

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Bargaining
Ok, I slipped, but when you look at it the white dial Explorer is the least "Rolexey" one you can get. Not many people even spot that it is a Rolex and that GMT function is useful for traveling. I can even put it on a nato and it´ll be great for hanging out at the beach or whatever. It wasn´t really that expensive either when you consider the build quality plus it´s an in house COSC certified movement. I´ll just keep this one and it´ll be my guilty pleasure.

(# of Rolexes owned 1)

Depression
Just leave me alone alright. It happened again, I´m not proud of it, but I´m only human. I bought a Submariner. Listen it´s a no-date, and it´s a two-line tritium dial. It´s the best one to own, it´s a classic.

I can still come back from this I swear.

(# of Rolexes owned 2)

Acceptance
You know, once you get past the marketing and the image problem these Rolexes are pretty amazing. The styling is classic and timeless, they are sized just right for normal people and they are built to take some punishment. Stick to the steel ones and buy pre-owned and you can´t go wrong.

Not like an AP that you practically have to service every time you take it out of the box. And I mean really does all that Cotes de Geneve stuff actually improve the functionality of the watch? And who needs a moon phase or a perpetual calendar, I won´t live till the year 2100 unless the singularity happens anytime soon. I can use my iPhone to find out the next high tide and if I really wanted I could take the Submariner surfing, try doing that with a bloody Patek Phillippe!

After all, if it was good enough for Paul Newman who am I to argue. I´ll just get a steel Daytona and that will be the end of it.

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Old 3 August 2016, 05:54 AM   #13
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Of course there is an entry level Rolex - and it is an Explorer II. Just read this:

"The Five Stages of Rolex Ownership
Just something I put together after recently succumbing to the lure of a steel Daytona.

Hope you enjoy.

Denial
I do not now, nor will I ever own a Rolex. They are monstrosities commonly found on the wrists of poseurs, fat cat bankers and vile dictators. Just look at the things, hideous gold and two tone abortions with no horological value. Overpriced and over rated. Give me Omega, give me Oris, give me Squale!

I do quite like the look of that Explorer II though. hmmm?

(# of Rolexes owned 0)

Anger
How did it come to this I have bought an Explorer II? Damn it I´m so weak. Well, it´s ok if anyone wants to question my horological relevance I still have a JLC so they can just .... off. Besides I´ll probably sell the Explorer soon anyway, after all it can´t be any good and I bought it on a whim. It´s like being a petrol head and having to own an Alfa, got to be able to say you owned at least one Rolex. right?

(#of Rolexes owned 1)

Bargaining
Ok, I slipped, but when you look at it the white dial Explorer is the least "Rolexey" one you can get. Not many people even spot that it is a Rolex and that GMT function is useful for traveling. I can even put it on a nato and it´ll be great for hanging out at the beach or whatever. It wasn´t really that expensive either when you consider the build quality plus it´s an in house COSC certified movement. I´ll just keep this one and it´ll be my guilty pleasure.

(# of Rolexes owned 1)

Depression
Just leave me alone alright. It happened again, I´m not proud of it, but I´m only human. I bought a Submariner. Listen it´s a no-date, and it´s a two-line tritium dial. It´s the best one to own, it´s a classic.

I can still come back from this I swear.

(# of Rolexes owned 2)

Acceptance
You know, once you get past the marketing and the image problem these Rolexes are pretty amazing. The styling is classic and timeless, they are sized just right for normal people and they are built to take some punishment. Stick to the steel ones and buy pre-owned and you can´t go wrong.

Not like an AP that you practically have to service every time you take it out of the box. And I mean really does all that Cotes de Geneve stuff actually improve the functionality of the watch? And who needs a moon phase or a perpetual calendar, I won´t live till the year 2100 unless the singularity happens anytime soon. I can use my iPhone to find out the next high tide and if I really wanted I could take the Submariner surfing, try doing that with a bloody Patek Phillippe!

After all, if it was good enough for Paul Newman who am I to argue. I´ll just get a steel Daytona and that will be the end of it.

(# of Rolexes owned 3)"

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Old 3 August 2016, 06:08 AM   #14
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I say don't let it bother you and enjoy. If it does bother you just consider Rolex wouldn't be Rolex today without the reputation it built off these "entry models."
There would be no PM sub date if there wasn't a Sub, no platona without the Daytona. Perhaps original is more fitting than entry.
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Old 3 August 2016, 06:21 AM   #15
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Of course there is an entry level Rolex - and it is an Explorer II. Just read this:

"The Five Stages of Rolex Ownership
Just something I put together after recently succumbing to the lure of a steel Daytona.

Hope you enjoy.

Denial
I do not now, nor will I ever own a Rolex. They are monstrosities commonly found on the wrists of poseurs, fat cat bankers and vile dictators. Just look at the things, hideous gold and two tone abortions with no horological value. Overpriced and over rated. Give me Omega, give me Oris, give me Squale!

I do quite like the look of that Explorer II though. hmmm?

(# of Rolexes owned 0)

Anger
How did it come to this I have bought an Explorer II? Damn it I´m so weak. Well, it´s ok if anyone wants to question my horological relevance I still have a JLC so they can just .... off. Besides I´ll probably sell the Explorer soon anyway, after all it can´t be any good and I bought it on a whim. It´s like being a petrol head and having to own an Alfa, got to be able to say you owned at least one Rolex. right?

(#of Rolexes owned 1)

Bargaining
Ok, I slipped, but when you look at it the white dial Explorer is the least "Rolexey" one you can get. Not many people even spot that it is a Rolex and that GMT function is useful for traveling. I can even put it on a nato and it´ll be great for hanging out at the beach or whatever. It wasn´t really that expensive either when you consider the build quality plus it´s an in house COSC certified movement. I´ll just keep this one and it´ll be my guilty pleasure.

(# of Rolexes owned 1)

Depression
Just leave me alone alright. It happened again, I´m not proud of it, but I´m only human. I bought a Submariner. Listen it´s a no-date, and it´s a two-line tritium dial. It´s the best one to own, it´s a classic.

I can still come back from this I swear.

(# of Rolexes owned 2)

Acceptance
You know, once you get past the marketing and the image problem these Rolexes are pretty amazing. The styling is classic and timeless, they are sized just right for normal people and they are built to take some punishment. Stick to the steel ones and buy pre-owned and you can´t go wrong.

Not like an AP that you practically have to service every time you take it out of the box. And I mean really does all that Cotes de Geneve stuff actually improve the functionality of the watch? And who needs a moon phase or a perpetual calendar, I won´t live till the year 2100 unless the singularity happens anytime soon. I can use my iPhone to find out the next high tide and if I really wanted I could take the Submariner surfing, try doing that with a bloody Patek Phillippe!
This was good till he went back to denial and delusion in the last paragraph.
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Old 3 August 2016, 06:26 AM   #16
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The cheapest Rolex model starts at $6200
Air King (116900): 6,200 USD
Milgauss (116400): 7,650 USD
Milgauss GV (116400 GV): 8,200 USD
Explorer (214270): 6,550 USD
Explorer II (216570): 8,100 USD
Submariner C - no Date (114060): 7,500 USD
Submariner C - Date LN (116610LN): 8,550 USD
Submariner C - Date LV (116610LV): 9,050 USD
Sea Dweller - SD4K (116600): 10,350 USD
Sea Dweller - Deepsea (116660): 12,050 USD
Sea Dweller - Deepsea blue (116660): 12,350 USD
GMT Master II C - LN (116710LN): 8,450 USD
GMT Master II C - BLNR (116710BLNR): 8,950 USD
Daytona C (116500LN): 12,400 USD
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:17 AM   #17
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There's a price difference between models, but that's about it. Many models at different price points share the same case, movement, crown and even bracelet. Rolex does seem to put quite a premium on the date complication.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:18 AM   #18
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Compared to PP, most Rolexes are "entry level".
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:21 AM   #19
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Since Rolexes are an addiction the entry level model is just the first one you buy.
The gateway to fine watches.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:26 AM   #20
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Silliness..... A Rolex, is a Rolex, is a Rolex!

Congratulationson your Explorer!
Yeah. These watches are very nice and impressive. It's like saying you bought an entry level Ferrari. It's still a freaking Ferrari.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:26 AM   #21
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If your associating with the guy who thinks you bought a no date submariner because you couldn't afford the date you need new friends. Same applies to the guy who thinks the explorer is what you buy when you cannot afford a sub. All these models have a place in history, a unique beauty, and deserve to be enjoyed from a non-judgemental perspective.
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Old 3 August 2016, 07:31 AM   #22
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I can live with "entry level":

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Compared to PP, most Rolexes are "entry level".


Compared with Greubel Forsey, most PP are "entry level" 😝🤗😁


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Old 3 August 2016, 07:42 AM   #24
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could i have a basic Ferrari please
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Actually i like the OP 39mm Rhodium Dial with some of the higher models so I don't mind about having something on a entry level.
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I think the Explorer II ends up called entry level as it really is a lot of people's entry into Rolex and is the most cost effective sport watch used. I really wanted a Sub for my first watch, but I did almost buy an explorer as they were quite a bit cheaper used in similar condition to a Sub ($1500 less in most cases as they seem to depreciate a little more than a sub). It was also easier to find and at 25% less cost, was very tempting as my first Rolex.

Like others have said though, it's still a Rolex made out of the same parts, it isn't like other stuff where they make a cheaper and call it entry level, if anything all steel rolex's are entry level based on where they sit in the lineup.
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About the term "Entry level" related to the Rolex line up... Is this a price only thing? Which are the entry level watches? Air King, Explorer and DJ maybe? Myself with a rather big box of watches just bought an entry level Explorer and I guess I'm not alone in this forum. Not important as a subject, but somehow it seems strange to call very iconic models "entry level". Again, price wise maybe. But money was at least for me not a factor when I choosed the Explorer.

I guess I just dont like the term.
I would say yes, entry level refers to price. If you bought what you like, why do you care? If it is a cheaper model, that's great, you got what you wanted for less money!
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There is no entry level. From the least expensive to the most expensive, they are all beautiful pieces.
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No such thing as an Entry Level Rolex. Just different models with different prices.
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