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HorologyK · 16 August 2016, 11:55 PM

If you had to choose between a Sub and Patek 5167 only (SS only also) and $$ was no object, which would you go with and why ??

texex91 · 16 August 2016, 11:57 PM

Which sub and depends on the rest of your collection.

docjamal · 16 August 2016, 11:58 PM

Sub for me. Subjectively less "fragile" and ease of servicing in south africa.

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SoonerTA · 17 August 2016, 12:00 AM

I would go with the Patek. They are much more rare in the wild but I guess that all depends on your circle

Goin2drt · 17 August 2016, 12:03 AM

Sub. I do not care for that model PP.

guy369 · 17 August 2016, 12:12 AM

Personally, the PP for me - unless you care about having to replace the rubber strap every few years.

Danny83 · 17 August 2016, 12:15 AM

Patek over a stainless Sub

armen34 · 17 August 2016, 12:50 AM

pp

masyv6 · 17 August 2016, 01:13 AM

Which Sub you're talking about will be a big factor for many.

For me, I'd take any Sub over the 5167.

HorologyK · 17 August 2016, 01:15 AM

BTW, I'm referring to the SS Sub only. Date or No Date.

Watch Rob · 17 August 2016, 01:27 AM

Pp

enjoythemusic · 17 August 2016, 03:02 AM

Have been down that same road. Had the 5167 first, yet due to it being a bit too fragile and easily scratched she was traded in and now the daily beater is the ceramic Sub ND. Added bonus is that the Sub is a far more accurate timekeeper and comes with an excellent SS bracelet. The Rolex metal band is leagues ahead of the Patek's due to the adjustable clasp. The Sub ND also looks great on an Everest strap, which is how i prefer, yet nice and easy to swap back to SS when the moment arises. The durability of the Rolex is just so much more...

BTW the lume on the Sub is far better, stays lit longer, and easier to read dial both day and night to my eyes. Sure the Patek has a pretty movement (and have had many Pateks over the years) and a bit lighter in weight, yet as i grow a bit older (perhaps wiser?), the Rolex Sub is an easy choice if one plans to truly use/wear the watch on a daily basis. YMMV JMHO

doramas · 17 August 2016, 03:16 AM

Aquanaut

GB-man · 17 August 2016, 03:17 AM

Patek. I'm a sea dweller man.

doramas · 17 August 2016, 03:20 AM

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youthagainsttt · 17 August 2016, 03:22 AM

I'd choose the 116613lb but if just the SS Sub, then I'll go with the 5167, the Sub is so common and even people who know nothing about watches have this watch. When I read reviews on the Patek, everyone raves about it and more versatile than you may think

watchwatcher · 17 August 2016, 03:45 AM

If we're talking smurf or 618, then sub.

Jacobson · 17 August 2016, 03:51 AM

Never been a fan of the PP Aquanaut

superstarmar · 17 August 2016, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobson

Never been a fan of the PP Aquanaut

Agreed...

travisb · 17 August 2016, 04:01 AM

Sub. Sportier, more rugged, better looking, glide lock (if we're talking about the six digit refs). Just my opinions.

G-F · 17 August 2016, 04:06 AM

To me that PP looks bland, boring. I'd go with a Sub hands down.

However, if you were to give it to me, I'd get the PP (only to flip it immediatly for a Hulk and money in my pockets).

Passionata · 17 August 2016, 06:13 AM

Sub ,i m just not confident with PP 5167 strap/clasp ,nice watch no doubt but a nice 5figures reference Sub is just a better choice.
nb get an LV an you are done.

douglasf13 · 17 August 2016, 06:16 AM

I love the Aquanaut, and it's really the only watch that I'd consider to dethrone my SubDate, as a one watch guy. That being said, although I know that provenance and craftsmanship of Patek is on another level, and I think the Aquanaut looks great, a SubDate is really the reason I like Rolex in the first place, and it's the Leica M, Porsche 911, Rayban Wayfarer, etc. type of icon, so it's difficult not to want one. I'd still pick a 911 over an Aston Martin, too, even though I like Aston Martin and they're much more rare.

Some designs transcend style, and the Sub is definitely one of those designs, so I reluctantly say Sub, although it would have to be pre-ceramic.

AK797 · 17 August 2016, 06:34 AM

In SS I'd get a Subc and the 5164.

subtona · 17 August 2016, 06:35 AM

Had both sub remains.

ap1 · 17 August 2016, 06:40 AM

Had both, only BBN remains - for real

In this battle - pp on the dial beauty and rareness

Deroya · 17 August 2016, 07:19 AM

Two significant price points... Def the sub unless you really need to spend the 4-5 times extra for the PP

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penguin78 · 17 August 2016, 07:32 AM

Patek 5167 for me

Masteryacht · 17 August 2016, 07:34 AM

Thankfully for me (and my wallet) I guess, I don't care for the nautilus, aquanaut, or royal oak.

Malibuboy · 17 August 2016, 08:26 AM

the sub is a daily wearer and can take the heat. the PP is a beauty no doubt, but durability isn't on the sub level.

modern subc is at a great price point and if $$$ no object....

SMUUUURF

16 August 2016, 11:55 PM	#1
HorologyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,363	Which one ?? If you had to choose between a Sub and Patek 5167 only (SS only also) and $$ was no object, which would you go with and why ??

17 August 2016, 03:02 AM	#12
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,207	Have been down that same road. Had the 5167 first, yet due to it being a bit too fragile and easily scratched she was traded in and now the daily beater is the ceramic Sub ND. Added bonus is that the Sub is a far more accurate timekeeper and comes with an excellent SS bracelet. The Rolex metal band is leagues ahead of the Patek's due to the adjustable clasp. The Sub ND also looks great on an Everest strap, which is how i prefer, yet nice and easy to swap back to SS when the moment arises. The durability of the Rolex is just so much more... BTW the lume on the Sub is far better, stays lit longer, and easier to read dial both day and night to my eyes. Sure the Patek has a pretty movement (and have had many Pateks over the years) and a bit lighter in weight, yet as i grow a bit older (perhaps wiser?), the Rolex Sub is an easy choice if one plans to truly use/wear the watch on a daily basis. YMMV JMHO __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

17 August 2016, 06:13 AM	#22
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	Sub ,i m just not confident with PP 5167 strap/clasp ,nice watch no doubt but a nice 5figures reference Sub is just a better choice. nb get an LV an you are done. __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

17 August 2016, 06:35 AM	#25
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,602	Had both sub remains. __________________

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16 August 2016, 11:57 PM	#2
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Which sub and depends on the rest of your collection.

16 August 2016, 11:58 PM	#3
docjamal "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: South Africa Posts: 81	Sub for me. Subjectively less "fragile" and ease of servicing in south africa. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

17 August 2016, 12:00 AM	#4
SoonerTA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Chris Location: Texas Posts: 1,417	I would go with the Patek. They are much more rare in the wild but I guess that all depends on your circle

17 August 2016, 12:03 AM	#5
Goin2drt Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,307	Sub. I do not care for that model PP.

17 August 2016, 12:12 AM	#6
guy369 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Guy Location: Toronto Watch: 116610 Posts: 586	Personally, the PP for me - unless you care about having to replace the rubber strap every few years.

17 August 2016, 12:15 AM	#7
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,314	Patek over a stainless Sub

17 August 2016, 12:50 AM	#8
armen34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: OC Posts: 1,466	pp

17 August 2016, 01:13 AM	#9
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,771	Which Sub you're talking about will be a big factor for many. For me, I'd take any Sub over the 5167.

17 August 2016, 01:15 AM	#10
HorologyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,363	BTW, I'm referring to the SS Sub only. Date or No Date.

17 August 2016, 01:27 AM	#11
Watch Rob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: 114200 Posts: 1,265	Pp

17 August 2016, 03:16 AM	#13
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Aquanaut

17 August 2016, 03:17 AM	#14
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,356	Patek. I'm a sea dweller man.

17 August 2016, 03:20 AM	#15
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk

17 August 2016, 03:22 AM	#16
youthagainsttt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: HK Watch: Piaget,Rolex,AP,HB Posts: 1,040	I'd choose the 116613lb but if just the SS Sub, then I'll go with the 5167, the Sub is so common and even people who know nothing about watches have this watch. When I read reviews on the Patek, everyone raves about it and more versatile than you may think

17 August 2016, 03:45 AM	#17
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,055	If we're talking smurf or 618, then sub.

17 August 2016, 03:51 AM	#18
Jacobson "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA, UK, UAE Posts: 670	Never been a fan of the PP Aquanaut

17 August 2016, 04:01 AM	#20
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,500	Sub. Sportier, more rugged, better looking, glide lock (if we're talking about the six digit refs). Just my opinions.

17 August 2016, 04:06 AM	#21
G-F "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 63	To me that PP looks bland, boring. I'd go with a Sub hands down. However, if you were to give it to me, I'd get the PP (only to flip it immediatly for a Hulk and money in my pockets).

17 August 2016, 06:16 AM	#23
douglasf13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 5,622	I love the Aquanaut, and it's really the only watch that I'd consider to dethrone my SubDate, as a one watch guy. That being said, although I know that provenance and craftsmanship of Patek is on another level, and I think the Aquanaut looks great, a SubDate is really the reason I like Rolex in the first place, and it's the Leica M, Porsche 911, Rayban Wayfarer, etc. type of icon, so it's difficult not to want one. I'd still pick a 911 over an Aston Martin, too, even though I like Aston Martin and they're much more rare. Some designs transcend style, and the Sub is definitely one of those designs, so I reluctantly say Sub, although it would have to be pre-ceramic.

17 August 2016, 06:34 AM	#24
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	In SS I'd get a Subc and the 5164.

17 August 2016, 06:40 AM	#26
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	Had both, only BBN remains - for real In this battle - pp on the dial beauty and rareness

17 August 2016, 07:19 AM	#27
Deroya 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GA Watch: Sub/Explorer Posts: 499	Two significant price points... Def the sub unless you really need to spend the 4-5 times extra for the PP Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 August 2016, 07:32 AM	#28
penguin78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: South Atlantic Posts: 108	Patek 5167 for me

17 August 2016, 07:34 AM	#29
Masteryacht "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: USA Watch: 16622,BLNR,116500 Posts: 1,009	Thankfully for me (and my wallet) I guess, I don't care for the nautilus, aquanaut, or royal oak.

17 August 2016, 08:26 AM	#30
Malibuboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Reno Watch: SMUUURF Posts: 383	the sub is a daily wearer and can take the heat. the PP is a beauty no doubt, but durability isn't on the sub level. modern subc is at a great price point and if $$$ no object.... SMUUUURF

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