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gmg_3 · 20 September 2016, 11:46 PM

Legit? Fake?

John Condom · 21 September 2016, 05:21 AM

Not sure.

gmg_3 · 23 September 2016, 03:17 AM

AgentHsu · 23 September 2016, 04:14 AM

The X looks a little funny to me.. But Im not an expert

swish77 · 23 September 2016, 04:23 AM

Well, it's a matte dial with what looks to be a slight gilt color on the text in the second set of photos. Should be white. Hard to tell 100 percent because of lighting and degrees of saturation in photos. Still, based just on the photos here, the print looks off.

See below for a legit Sub serif dial for comparison, and easy to search online to see the differences:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Subm...IBigB&dpr=1.25

jdog111578 · 23 September 2016, 04:43 AM

Hey George. The printing looks ok and everything lines up with my reference pics. Having said that, the dial does look baked/artificially aged to me. Could be the lighting as pointed out above me, but it looks off. Again, it could be just the photos.

springer · 23 September 2016, 05:50 AM

The dial appears to be a genuine feet first variation from the 1970s, prior to the later maxi dials.

There is a web site dedicated to the 5513 matte dials, along with a "sticky" here in the vintage section which takes you to the site.

20 September 2016, 11:46 PM	#1
gmg_3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: jersey Posts: 102	Help with 5513 dial. Fake? Legit? Fake?

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swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 7,003	Well, it's a matte dial with what looks to be a slight gilt color on the text in the second set of photos. Should be white. Hard to tell 100 percent because of lighting and degrees of saturation in photos. Still, based just on the photos here, the print looks off. See below for a legit Sub serif dial for comparison, and easy to search online to see the differences: https://www.google.com/search?q=Subm...IBigB&dpr=1.25 Attached Images

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springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	The dial appears to be a genuine feet first variation from the 1970s, prior to the later maxi dials. There is a web site dedicated to the 5513 matte dials, along with a "sticky" here in the vintage section which takes you to the site. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

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21 September 2016, 05:21 AM	#2
John Condom Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Real Name: John Location: UK Watch: 16520 Posts: 108	Not sure.

23 September 2016, 03:17 AM	#3
gmg_3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: jersey Posts: 102

23 September 2016, 04:43 AM	#6
jdog111578 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Jason Location: Connecticut Watch: Tudor 7016, 94010 Posts: 256	Hey George. The printing looks ok and everything lines up with my reference pics. Having said that, the dial does look baked/artificially aged to me. Could be the lighting as pointed out above me, but it looks off. Again, it could be just the photos.

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