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Old 19 September 2008, 06:55 AM   #1
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GMT II Bezel Question

Looking for a Pepsi GMT with 3186 movement. I found a black GMT M serial at an AD and they offered to change the bezel to Pepsi. Is there any way to tell from the serial # or warranty papers what the original bezel color was? If I sold the watch a few years from now, I wouldn't want the new owner to have any issues.
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:02 AM   #2
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Yes there is - at least the M serials have bezel color designations on the credit card warranty.
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:06 AM   #3
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If the dealer changes it out he is supposed to notify Rolex.
See if you can keep both bezels.
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:10 AM   #4
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If the dealer changes it out he is supposed to notify Rolex...
Really?!
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:22 AM   #5
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Could I get a coke and pepsi and swap them real easy like on the sub?
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:34 AM   #6
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If the dealer changes it out he is supposed to notify Rolex.
No, Rolex really does not care, in the US they will insist that the bezel be a swap only though.
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:17 PM   #7
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In Cyprus, I contacted the local AD, went there and managed them to change my pepsi bezel to a black one. What´s most important though is that I kept my pepsi one and bought the coke as well. So I now own all three of them.
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Old 19 September 2008, 07:31 PM   #8
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The extended model number on the warranty card or paper designates which bezel is on the watch I think. We get hosed in the US trying to acquire bezels because RUSA has a policy of exchange only.
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Old 19 September 2008, 08:39 PM   #9
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Yes, you can tell from the ref. number given on the paper/card.
Pepsi bezel is 16710B and coke is 16710A, not sure black bezel.
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Old 19 September 2008, 08:41 PM   #10
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Maybe its just me, but this is the first time I heard there is
"M" 16710 (3186 movt.) available in black bezel
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Old 19 September 2008, 09:17 PM   #11
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Maybe its just me, but this is the first time I heard there is
"M" 16710 (3186 movt.) available in black bezel

Same Here. I have yet to see an original black bezel with the 3186. Either a Z or M serial.
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Old 19 September 2008, 10:48 PM   #12
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Same Here. I have yet to see an original black bezel with the 3186. Either a Z or M serial.
I haven't personally seen it so for all I know the sales rep doesn't know the Ceramic from the original GMT. Before I drive there I will confirm it is a true Black GMT II M series.
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Old 19 September 2008, 11:40 PM   #13
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...My TRF brother...The "Pepsi" is the epitome of all GMT inserts.

If YOU ever loose a sale because of the insert change...I WILL BUY it...
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Old 20 September 2008, 06:21 AM   #14
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Hi, I have just looked at my credit card style registration document and my Z serial red/black GMT II has the 16710M model number.
What does the M mean as GMTobsessed says that the red/black should have an A after the 16710?

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Old 20 September 2008, 12:10 PM   #15
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Hi, I have just looked at my credit card style registration document and my Z serial red/black GMT II has the 16710M model number.
What does the M mean as GMTobsessed says that the red/black should have an A after the 16710?

Cheers, PeterT
Hi PeterT, please check Sheldon' comparison here:

http://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.htm

But I'm not sure A or B after ref.16710 only apply for "M" serial

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Old 20 September 2008, 12:13 PM   #16
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Looking for a Pepsi GMT with 3186 movement. I found a black GMT M serial at an AD and they offered to change the bezel to Pepsi. Is there any way to tell from the serial # or warranty papers what the original bezel color was? If I sold the watch a few years from now, I wouldn't want the new owner to have any issues.
Just curious - what's the model # on the credit card warranty?
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Old 20 September 2008, 12:25 PM   #17
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No, Rolex really does not care, in the US they will insist that the bezel be a swap only though.
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No, some dealers will give you them both.
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Old 20 September 2008, 02:51 PM   #18
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No, some dealers will give you them both.
Could you PM me which AD does this? I'm in SoCal. Tks!!
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