PART II- Porsche guys and car guys give me your opinion.....PDK or manual?

[superdog]

PDK.

I LOVE driving a stick. But I've realized that for a driver, I prefer an automatic. It creates a different, more relaxed, driving experience.

If I get a few more garage bays, I'll get another manual, big until that happens I'll not sacrifice the chill, relaxed driving experience of an automatic transmission

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Open the door and count the pedals on the floor.

Now look down and count your feet.

Why would you want to have more pedals then feet?

You have a way with words

[KDS777]

FWIW the DSG trans Mercedes uses is having quite a high failure rate in its hi-po cars..........and I am also aware of PDK boxes being replaced in Porsche. While one is built by Getrag and the other by ZF they basically the same technology.

If form follows function.....that is......it continues to occur, expect resale values to be affected accordingly in 3-4 year old examples. If you end up going PDK do a closed end lease to hedge your bet at resale time. Always having the option to walk away is better than not having it.

I've said over 1,000 P-cars since nice 1989 and only a small % keep them forever.

Best.

[GMTMasterII44]

Nice choice on the black, love it. For me, I've driven my fair share of manual cars in my day but IMHO I'd go PDK all the way. Absolutely amazing.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Hollister

Er, when you drive an auto, you only use one foot, but there's one pedal too many. So another meaningless post, best ignored.

I agree that the PDK is an amazing piece of engineering, but when it comes to driver involvement it's a step backwards, IMO.

In that case amputate one foot and save on shoe costs at the same time.

[encarter13]

I went with PDK.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by MonBK

Open the door and count the pedals on the floor.

Now look down and count your feet.

Why would you want to have more pedals then feet?

does this logic apply to number of wrists and number of watches?


OP,

with a 911, be a driver, not a motorist -- 3 pedal 911 is a bucket list item for many.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

does this logic apply to number of wrists and number of watches?

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We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by MonBK

We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

[Rolex1974]

I have a manual 2013 911 Turbo. It is by far the most exciting drive I've ever experienced. IMO if this is not your DD then you need to get the manual. I love downshifting through turns. Good luck!


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[skiahh]

Originally Posted by rle737ng

I've got PDK on my Boxster. I love it. It has the Sport mode if you want to change the shift points and throttle response. You can also shift manually if you want. Unless you're going to track the car, get PDK.

This. Except if you ARE going to track the car, PDK is the way to go; it's simply faster than any human could ever be and if you disagree with the gear, you always have the final say.

I went with PDK on mine and, while I like shifting, I have no regrets about getting this amazing gear box. Technically, it's an automatic manual, rather than an "automatic", with 2 separate gear boxes. One for the odd gears, one for the even, so it can shift as close to instantaneously as possible. And in any traffic, you'll obviously enjoy it over a stick.

Of course, the Porsche engineers know how to program it to shift optimally, based on the mode you're in. In normal mode, you may find yourself hitting the shift paddle a now and then. In sport, rarely and sport+ never, I suspect.

On the other hand, if you want the full "immersive" driving experience, the manual is the obvious choice. In this respect, I enjoy focusing on the scenery along the way, not just handling the car and managing optimal engine spped, so PDK was, again, the choice for me.

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by Rolex1974

I love downshifting through turns. Good luck!


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So do I and my PDK does it flawlessly with the paddles. Never misses a gear and minus the push in of a clutch is superb.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Rolex1974

I have a manual 2013 911 Turbo. It is by far the most exciting drive I've ever experienced. IMO if this is not your DD then you need to get the manual. I love downshifting through turns. Good luck!


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please don't if others are on the road.

[sco]

I've driven manual and several PDK's on 911's.

If this is just a fun car and not a daily, I would go Manual all the way... No question. Enjoy!

[Rolex1974]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

please don't if others are on the road.

Not too many can stay close to me so it's never an issue!


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[tkerrmd]

if its a "fun" car then stick shift all the way. if it is PDK it will just be like driving an automatic and no driver input at all

[lig]

Really satisfying getting a smoothly executed heel and toe downshift under heavy braking.

Bought new pedals for the 911 with a slight extension on the gas pedal to make heel toe very easy to execute.

Went ghetto with the S2000 and simply bent the gas pedal closer to the brake pedal.

Can either roll ankle or literally stomp on the brakes with the ball of my foot and blip the throttle with the heel.

Fun. And honestly will be a lost art one day.

3 pedals. 2 feet. Zero problems. :D

[Hollister]

Originally Posted by MonBK

In that case amputate one foot and save on shoe costs at the same time.

You put a troll post in the Cayman thread, and here you go again.

[Soly20]

PDK...can't be bothered with manual.

[Tonyfsu21]

PDK is the only way to go. Don't even give it a second thought!

[socialpro]

In a weekend toy, thats not your primary means of transportation - manual 100%.

No matter how much I try to like, and enjoy auto, single / dual clutch, PDK etc for a 'weekend' ride - there is NOTHING you can get to give you the satisfaction of like shifting a gated / manual shifter.

I recently gave a gallardo a go with the 'paddle' shifters and a single clutch transmission. Sure - while the 'unrefinement' of the single clutch and all its jerkiness gave the car some 'character' -- I was over it (paddle shifting) a week in and sold the car now looking to get back in a manual. It doesnt matter to me how 'fast' that makes it, how 'recent' that technology is, how 'fast' it shifts, or that its more 'convenient' at the track.

I've driven for extended periods of time various PDK cars - everything from a Panamera Turbo to a 911 Turbo and seriously do not get what the big deal is. Its nothing more then a really refined automatic transmission to me. PDK does not magically infuse a 'personality' quotient to me that lasts past day 2. For a daily, traffic, commute car - sure its great --- but as long as my left foot allows it - for a toy my preference will always lean towards manual. Just hoping I don't keep paying $$ after $$ reconfirming that fact.

[gtnator]

I would definitely go with the manual! 100%. PDK acceleration might be few slivers of a second faster, but who cares? You'll never feel the difference. But with a manual, you will feel the fun.

It's a tragedy that sports cars are all going this way. I remember when 90% of Porsche's were manual and only a small percent were "automatic". Soon they'll all be self driving too. Get the manual while you still have the chance to take control of a true performance vehicle and really DRIVE it, instead of being driven by the car.


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