This 16610 look okay?

[Andrejb]

Up for sale locally is this 16610. It’s a Z serial but doesn’t have rehaut engraving. Watch only, he’s not an experienced seller on local forums

He wants 5200(us)

What do you all think? It was flagged on the local forum for some reason, not sure why. He said it was because it was original posted as a V serial and didn’t know it was a Z, and it has no rehaut engraving so the info didn’t initially match up




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[Beelzy]

No pic of the serial number after all that?
The hands don't match in a bad way. IMO

[Andrejb]

Originally Posted by Beelzy

No pic of the serial number after all that?

The hands don't match in a bad way. IMO

Didn’t want to add for security reasons in respect of the seller. But it’s Z470XXX


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[RolexPete]

Looks ok, but that nick on the bezel at :48 is on the insert AND the actual bezel itself, or so it appears.

[Andrejb]

Anyone else? Aware of the bezel mark


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[msjinc]

I think it looks good.

[jph4387]

Pearl at 12 looks off. Looks like it’s sitting low in the triangle?

[jph4387]

Also, big gap between B and M in submariner.

[jph4387]

Originally Posted by jph4387

Pearl at 12 looks off. Looks like it’s sitting low in the triangle?

I stand corrected, I went back and looked at others for comparison and realized that's how the 5 digits are.

[GLADIATOR]

I can not see any glaring issue BUT
Why is seller showing a movement photo, but hiding the most important part - the balance wheel.
Personally that would make me cautious enough to insist on a photo of balance wheel assembly
Adam

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I can not see any glaring issue BUT
Why is seller showing a movement photo, but hiding the most important part - the balance wheel.
Personally that would make me cautious enough to insist on a photo of balance wheel assembly
Adam

This jumped out at me also. No Balance. But, the rest looks ok. Usually the reversing wheels are a tell too. These look good. But, No way I'd buy without seeing the balance as well. Especially since this is a watch ONLY sale.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Valenciawatchrepair

This jumped out at me also. No Balance. But, the rest looks ok. Usually the reversing wheels are a tell too. These look good. But, No way I'd buy without seeing the balance as well. Especially since this is a watch ONLY sale.

Reversing wheels are well faked.
Not saying this is fake, but if watch is open, then that is the way to tell
A

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Reversing wheels are well faked.
Not saying this is fake, but if watch is open, then that is the way to tell
A

True, I've only seen some easily identifiable. Probably not the best set of photos to determine other attributes though. Maybe seller will provide a balance shot.

EDITED: Probably too much detail.

[Flyinghunter]

Buy the seller.

[freefly]

Originally Posted by Andrejb

Up for sale locally is this 16610. It’s a Z serial but doesn’t have rehaut engraving. Watch only, he’s not an experienced seller on local forums

He wants 5200(us)

What do you all think? It was flagged on the local forum for some reason, not sure why. He said it was because it was original posted as a V serial and didn’t know it was a Z, and it has no rehaut engraving so the info didn’t initially match up

A Z-serial with no rehaut engraving is not a red flag by itself. That was a transitional period, so you will see some with and some without the engraving. You will also see some with older style papers and some with the newer warranty cards.

That said, it would be a HARD pass on that particular watch. The pics aren't the greatest, but good enough to see that the dial is fake, and the movement has a few details that potentially put it in the "Asian 3135 clone" category.