CONFIRMED news regarding the professional line

[ALF61]

Originally Posted by GerardoG

...so let me understand: let me blow up a 25 YEAR old personal relationship with some of the largest accounts in the Us for Rolex, Cartier, Tudor, AP and other brands just to make you happy? Maybe my ‘low level’ contacts are the reason why I get invited to Rolex EXCLUSIVE events (sorry, did not see you at last years Rolex hospitality tents) and those low level individuals are also the reason why we have PHYSICALLY the Tudor releases a few weeks after Basel, year after year. Oh, also those low level contacts get us VIP presentations and insiders information which, by the way, I SHARE with over 100 TRF members during gatherings in Las Vegas, Houston, Chicago, Miami and other venues. 100 people who travel and meet me face to face. Those are on top of the probably 200 TRF members I have MET over the last 15+ years.

...so, let me jeopardize all of this to make YOU happy.


Sorry, it will not happen. My family and friends, REAL friends are ALWAYS first.

Well, you let a cat out of the bag without providing any proof but pure gossip, so you should'nt bitch if being challenged.

Your post did not help anything except create more speculation. It will not affect one bit my decision to hold, buy or sell Rolex, much less chase expensive watches.

[OmegaManOnTheMoon]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

This is what we know:

Gerardo has been here for a long time and is known by a lot of us personally, is a respected and welcome member of this forum.

This is what we know about you...


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Respected, Trustworthy, honest.... And probably correct - by way of smart deductive reasoning. But, I don't think Rolex will share their strategy. We'll never see this letter before the ADs.

One of my favorite leadership quotes from the Godfather: “Never tell anyone outside the Family what you are thinking.”

Regardless, it's probably true.

[Gaijin]

Nearly 32,000 views of this thread. Whoa..

[Wcdhtwn]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

Nearly 32,000 views of this thread. Whoa..

I feel like I’m 1000 of them....


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[The Argonaut]

"CONFIRMED unconfirmed news." Boom. Still, we will see.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

This is what we know:

Gerardo has been here for a long time and is known by a lot of us personally, is a respected and welcome member of this forum.

This is what we know about you...













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Hear, hear. I confess I have been on a Downton Abbey binge lately but I really do think people with low post counts should not be allowed to address people with high post counts. It's all so terribly unseemly, what, what.

[Bagman]

Unless they raise prices significantly... they make less money? Right. Why would any company do that?


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36mm datejust, Custom Explorer, Pepsi, Hulk, yellow gold dd2

[galaxy101]

Originally Posted by AK797

Hear, hear. I confess I have been on a Downton Abbey binge lately but I really do think people with low post counts should not be allowed to address people with high post counts. It's all so terribly unseemly, what, what.

“Should not be allowed” ??

Everyone should be able to express their opinions freely without worrying being bullied. Intelligence doesn’t come with the ‘number of post counts’. If you don’t like someone else’s opinion you can challenge it respectfully or else, move on. Like everyone else does.


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[BNABOD]

Originally Posted by galaxy101

“Should not be allowed” ??

Everyone should be able to express their opinions freely without worrying being bullied. Intelligence doesn’t come with the ‘number of post counts’. If you don’t like someone else’s opinion you can challenge it respectfully or else, move on. Like everyone else does.

Pretty sure it was a joke Downton Abbey style


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[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by OmegaManOnTheMoon

Do you think maybe they are thinning the Rolex Professional models to make the Tudor line more attractive? A lot more potential customers can afford a BB than a Sub. They could perhaps increase overall marketshare?

It doesn't make sense to me that Rolex would alter their production to make Tudor more attractive to buyers.

Tudor makes some very nice watches and I happen to own four of them, but those who can't find the Rolex they want aren't necessarily going to buy a Tudor to fill the void.

In the minds of many, including many members here, Tudor is a second-fiddle brand and regardless of how good they are, someone looking for name-recognition and prestige is not going to be interested Tudor when there are so many brands to choose from.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by tomchicago

The more I noodle on this, I think the upshot may be a massive professional model redesign, following the assumption of control by ETA once their purchase of Rolex is complete.

Not again.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by OmegaManOnTheMoon

Respected, Trustworthy, honest.... And probably correct - by way of smart deductive reasoning. But, I don't think Rolex will share their strategy. We'll never see this letter before the ADs.

One of my favorite leadership quotes from the Godfather: “Never tell anyone outside the Family what you are thinking.”

Regardless, it's probably true.

What do YOU know!?!? You have “Omega” in your screen name

[TheVTCGuy]

I wish I could start a thread that breaks 500 posts

[GoPackGo!]

I believe that once Rolex hits their sales targets also their margins, they just take some time away. After all, for us in business, you have to start at $0 come January 1. My AD had to pull some strings to get me a green Sub before Christmas. I'm getting my SeaDweller on Tuesday. I was told I'd have both by the end of November.

[77T]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I wish I could start a thread that breaks 500 posts

Then you’d be one of the unapproachable ones


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[77T]

Dupe

[Gaijin]

There’s gotta be a ban or two somewhere in the many pages of this thread..

[RW16610]

Makes sense to me. They've always has too many I'm circulation or been too easy to get. I'm sure I'll be singing a different time when it's time to buy my Submariner for the collection though

[77T]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

There’s gotta be a ban or two somewhere in the many pages of this thread..

Read back a few pages...

Somewhere around post 305.


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[Maxy]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I wish I could start a thread that breaks 500 posts

Okay, I made it 500th!!

[77T]

Originally Posted by Maxy

Okay, I made it 500th!!

Ahem...just a tad late


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[Maxy]

Originally Posted by 77T

Ahem...just a tad late


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Actually if you go by the replies count on the main forum - it is 500th one. If you include the OP's post, it is 501!

[Tampashooter]

This thread is so long i had to open a new bag of tide pods.

[GB-man]

You guys read this far. You deserve a treat. Vickie’s models 2018

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by 77T

Read back a few pages...

Somewhere around post 305.


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Groovy. Thank you sir.

[BNABOD]

So prices will go up if a new movement is introduced? The LV msrp is 9 grand already so I wonder by how much it would go up. Frankly it is getting a tad ridiculous at almost 10k for a 3 hander w date and no precious metal. You can get a JLC master compressor chrono for 7k so me thinks I am shifting where i am looking



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[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You guys read this far. You deserve a treat. Vickie’s models 2018

Well that's guaranteed another 32,000 views!

[Ruud Van Driver]

Having thought this through a bit more, if the currency markets keep on going the way they have been recently it could soon make sense for UK buyers to pick up from the US TRF trusted sellers. Over the last few months or so Sterling has gone from £1 - USD 1.3 to £1 - USD 1.41.

A new DaytonaC from DavidSW is now 'only' £13,460 which is almost £3,000 cheaper than Watchfinder

[Cabaiguan]

Originally Posted by GerardoG

Honestly, I am still trying to understand. Once again, if this was a specific material...but ALL?

This strategy won’t last simply because it makes no business sense. Demand is there. Price point can even be RAISED with the economy strong and China coming back online. Their CFO should be fired for squandering potential revenue.


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[stainlesssteve]

Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

I have to politely disagree with your comment.

I have watched your videos, and they are very (very) good. However, they cater to a certain sub-section, which means they risk being a closed loop in terms of the feedback/information they provide.

What do I mean?

The people who watch your videos can be primarily categorized into two groups - those who like tech, and those who like nice watches.

Looking at those who like watches - you will have many views from such people, as including many young people. However, and this is key, it is still a closed loop. You are getting highly filtered views from a specifically interested audience, and that means that the numbers are highly skewed.

An example:
- Rolex sells about a million watches a year;
- Let’s imagine you got 100 inquiries from young people ...while nice, that’s not even a drop in the ocean. Hardly even vapor.
- It is also not statistically significant considering they are coming from a highly focused group to begin with (its like doing a survey on TRF ...any results would be skewed considering we are a highly concentrated audience of watch lovers, and thus there is no randomness).
- Now, let’s even increase the inquiries from 100 to 1,000. Same thing ...absolutely no indication of declining interest, or lack of, among the youth.
- a better sample set would be to go to any large college and ask the students there how interested they are in watches.

With that said, I think there will always be a place for good mechanical watches. Always.

But it will be at a lower demand point than currently seen.

Thank you for your post which supports my original point. Millennials are generally not as interested in mechanical watches. This will affect Rolex strategy.