Another GMT discontinued?

[JLM3]

Interesting I'll check with my source as they where the first one to report about the BLRO.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by asiparks

If Rolex are launching a new GMT case, it would make sense to discontinue the current LN, you wouldn’t want mixed cases in the lineup.

That's what they did the last time around. I have an e-brochure from 2009 marketing the six-digit Subs in YG, WG and TT. The SS is still a 16610, because the 116610LN and LV hadn't come out yet, and they hadn't yet discontinued the five-digit version. The also happened before the 114060 replaced the 14060.

[WS9D]

Originally Posted by Danny83

There will be a 42m gmt on the way

nooooooooooooooo. The 40 is such a classic and the EX2 fills that niche. I thought the jumbo watch phase was over. Don't reck this for me Danny!! lol

[WS9D]

Originally Posted by ronricks

If it is a movement update I could see them offering the black bezel GMT with the new movements to have a red GMT hand and white text on the dial instead of the green GMT hand with green text. That would be an easy identification between the 3186 and 32xx movements.

I would like this and add it, especially since my other half has commandeered my LN. if it had red text, i'd s#$t myself.

[Banded]

I just got the LN. Glad I made the decision if true

[masyv6]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

One-off rumor, no substantiation. If there are more reports, there might be something to it.

I'm anxious to hear if other reports of the LN being canceled start to roll in.

If so, I would expect a brand new reference for the GMT, as I can't imagine Rolex wouldn't carry an all-black bezel GMT.

The Rolex rumor train is chugging along

[dera]

Originally Posted by Ks6pd

I thought the jumbo watch phase was over.

Yes. That is why Rolex brought out the SD43

[WS9D]

Originally Posted by dera

Yes. That is why Rolex brought out the SD43

True, but to fill a niche as the sd4k was too similar to the sub at 40mm. But a 42mm gmt doesn’t make sense imho.

[kilyung]

I loved my 116710LN but since moving on to PM have little interest in any SS replacement.

[rudegar]

Originally Posted by jb335

But I know nothing.

AND you know as much as anyone!

[HL65]

Originally Posted by gregmoeck

Current subs tank in price with the fixed case models

It would be the opposite if it were true if you look at Rolex history.

[oldman2005]

Maybe this is the end of the green text GMT

[busytimmy]

I smell a troll...

[Mousehunter]

If the movement is changed the model number and something visible will be changed. That said, my crystal ball is hazy when it comes to mm’s. I think there will continue to be a black GMT that is strikingly similar to the current. Only question is when.
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When it comes to colors, none are sacred enough to to be changed (other than black).

[GFONG]

Originally Posted by amh

Says who?


Recent stories:
- BLRO to be killed [confirmed]

Confirmed by Rolex announcement?

[dera]

Originally Posted by Mousehunter

If the movement is changed the model number and something visible will be changed.

Historically this has not always been the case.

[tyler1980]

the only way i believe it is if movements are being updated or there is some other fundamental change. I would suspect they will be replaced with different reference numbers. I can't imagine a scenario where they would just be gone.

[bayerische]

I heard there will be a Dr Pepper Cherry Vanilla GMT master.

The case will be made of unobtanium, naturally. The dial will be vanilla coloured and will feature black vanilla spots, and a cherry red bezel with a green stripe. As the dial ages it will develop mould, this will make it highly sought-after, just as with all other sport rolex watches which have had flawed dials.

It will feature a Quartz movement, only the newest will do for this technical marvel. The battery will last as long as it take to make each watch. A year.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

I can't imagine a scenario where they would just be gone.

I can't either, but at this point no one has even clarified what the person who started the rumor even meant. Is he referring to all LN GMT's, or a specific one? How can we assess if it's likely to be true or what it portends without even knowing what the actual rumor is? Why has a whole thread been dedicated to it without trying to clarify this point?

Here is what was posted. I asked him to clarify which LN, but he hasn't responded.

Originally Posted by Carrera_2

Anything is possible with Rolex. But what my AD in town said regarding the GMT-Master II is that at this Basel, there is a possibility that Rolex will discontinued the white gold GMT-Master and the LN will lost the green hand and being replaced with the red hand with the white letter instead of the green. But this is only my AD guessing since he said Rolex do not taking order on those two at the moment. But if it discontinued or not, wait till Basel 2018.

[asiparks]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

One-off rumor, no substantiation. If there are more reports, there might be something to it.

Also, can someone tell me, is "LN" common parlance for the SS GMT with the black bezel? The two YG models and the TT also have the LN designation.

I'm probably massacring the spelling but LN = Lunette Noir, LV = Lunette Vert for black bezel and green bezel respectively. Or something like that.

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

That's what they did the last time around. I have an e-brochure from 2009 marketing the six-digit Subs in YG, WG and TT. The SS is still a 16610, because the 116610LN and LV hadn't come out yet, and they hadn't yet discontinued the five-digit version. The also happened before the 114060 replaced the 14060.

Ah, so the PM models got the maxi case first ? Alright, I'd say ideally, if I were Rolex, I'd try and launch all my changes in one chunk....

[Rogdogg]

Wasn't there a patent application schematic that showed up a few years ago for a new GMT. If I remember correctly it had some kind of internal rotating bezel/rahaut type system? (I hope I'm not mixing it up in my head with another brand)

Perhaps this is the year they release this new watch!

[daytonastl]

Originally Posted by HL65

It would be the opposite if it were true if you look at Rolex history.

Man oh man is that ever so!

[jbarolex]

Originally Posted by amh

Says who?


Recent stories:
- BLRO to be killed [confirmed]
- No more SS watches
- Price increase
- No Price Increase
- Supply of SS to be reduced
- 2-watch limit per buyer
- No more stickers
- SS GMT Coke to be introduced
- There's a letter

You forgot : Submariner will discontinue ..

[Rogdogg]

Originally Posted by jbarolex

You forgot : Submariner will discontinue ..

That one needs its own website

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by asiparks

I'm probably massacring the spelling but LN = Lunette Noir, LV = Lunette Vert for black bezel and green bezel respectively. Or something like that.

I don't think my question was clear. I know what LN officially stands for. My question was when members here refer to "the LN," if that is shorthand for a specific reference. For instance, the person who started this rumor said "the LN" GMT was no longer available for order, and everybody proceeded to talk about it without ever asking which LN he was referring to. There are four black-bezel GMTs, and they all have the designation of LN after the reference. So I thought maybe they automatically knew which one "the LN" was. However, after reading the responses in this thread, I get the feeling nobody is clear, which would make this whole rumor silly - not that it wasn't already silly, considering there has so far been only one report based on a single visit with a UK AD.

Originally Posted by asiparks

Ah, so the PM models got the maxi case first ? Alright, I'd say ideally, if I were Rolex, I'd try and launch all my changes in one chunk....

Each new super-case model (GMT in '05, and Sub in '08) debuted in PM, and the other metal grades came out in successive years. Unlike other brands that do roll out all metal grades of a new model at one time, Rolex doesn't do that. They have switched up the order sometimes, so it can be hard to know just which order a new model will follow, or how many years will lapse between releases. For instance, while the super-case GMT and Sub lines followed an orderly release pattern, the Daytonas and Sky Dwellers have been a lot more scattered. So it's anybody's guess if the new sports models - whenever they happen - will come out in an orderly fashion, but it would be very uncharacteristic of Rolex to release all the metal grades at once. It would also be unusual for a new model to debut in SS, unless of course it's an SS-only model (like the Sea Dweller or Explorer).

[Rocket_Man]

The black bezel GMT is a staple in the lineup. Not going away.

[Carrera_2]

The AD told me that there still will be LN, but it will come with red GMT hand and the GMT-Master II name will be in white instead of green. But who know, it is been quite a long time since Rolex introduce the bi colour bezel, may be they find a way to perfected it and the time is right to bringing back the red hand bi colour bezel.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Carrera_2

The AD told me that there still will be LN, but it will come with red GMT hand and the GMT-Master II name will be in white instead of green. But who know, it is been quite a long time since Rolex introduce the bi colour bezel, may be they find a way to perfected it and the time is right to bringing back the red hand bi colour bezel.

There are four LN GMTs in the catalog. Did your AD say which one(s) could not be ordered? Was it just a specific one, several, or all four?

By the way, in your other post, you said his prediction of colors was solely his own speculation. All he really "knows" is that he can't order an LN GMT, correct? Let's keep the rumor in check, if that's possible.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I don't think my question was clear. I know what LN officially stands for. My question was when members here refer to "the LN," if that is shorthand for a specific reference. For instance, the person who started this rumor said "the LN" GMT was no longer available for order, and everybody proceeded to talk about it without ever asking which LN he was referring to. There are four black-bezel GMTs, and they all have the designation of LN after the reference. So I thought maybe they automatically knew which one "the LN" was. However, after reading the responses in this thread, I get the feeling nobody is clear, which would make this whole rumor silly - not that it wasn't already silly, considering there has so far been only one report based on a single visit with a UK AD.

You are of course right that “LN” refers to more than one watch.

But this thread is clearly supposed to be about 116710LN because the OP posted a picture of it in the thread-starter. Whether or not that’s the one everybody is actually talking about is another matter.

Apologies if this point has been made above and I missed it, but it’d make no sense to disco the 116710LN to pave the way for an all new GMT with redesigned case and movement whilst retaining the BLNR as it currently stands. So unless they also disco the latter and replace it too, this development seems unlikely. Unless I’m missing something.

Edited to add that I may have missed the fact that the rumour starter and the OP are different people, in which case “as you were” Mr Stone

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

But this thread is clearly supposed to be about 116710LN because the OP posted a picture of it in the thread-starter. Whether or not that’s the one everybody is actually talking about is another matter.

Edited to add that I may have missed the fact that the rumour starter and the OP are different people, in which case “as you were” Mr Stone

Indeed, the OP of this thread is not the one who received the information being reported. That was Carrera_2 (see the quote in post #49, above), who did not post a picture, or explain which watch he's referring to. OP did not explain how he determined Carrera was talking about the SS LN.

This thread is an object lesson in how unfounded rumors spread. Next thing you know, there will be Youtube vloggers citing this thread as evidence of the impending disco.