Time to ban investment discussions?

[joli160]

I would welcome a new rule, totally fed up with these hold value and investment threads.

[dnpina]

Ban everything!! But if I can be serious for a second I'd really only want a ban on the pics of watches with your beaded man-bracelets. Those put the "tool" in tool-watch and also the words "bluesy" & "Batman". I'm back to the beginning , go ahead and ban everything. And one more time : watches are not investments.

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[BobDyl]

Originally Posted by dnpina

I'd really only want a ban on the pics of watches with your beaded man-bracelets

[05carbondrz]

Censorship is bad,There are already too many “banned topics” on this Forum....If You don’t like it,Don’t click on it!

[Boaters]

Don't ban it partake or don't very simple your choice.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by padi56

Now that goes back a long way and water under the bridge now but glad we started TRF. As "The-forum-who-must-not-be-named" once stated TRF would never be a big as "The-forum-who-must-not-be-named".

Any answer as to why the original TRF founder Mark left the forum? Did he lose the watch bug?

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by dnpina

Ban everything!! But if I can be serious for a second I'd really only want a ban on the pics of watches with your beaded man-bracelets. Those put the "tool" in tool-watch and also the words "bluesy" & "Batman". I'm back to the beginning , go ahead and ban everything. And one more time : watches are not investments.

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Burn of the year. Somebody get this man a pledge membership

[A.I.]

Live and let live....

...except for these 'is it safe' threads and anything to do with 'are SS steel in short supply?'...

[jb335]

Only topics NOT about watches (i.e. politics, religion) should be banned here. If it's a watch related topic, it should be fair game.

If you truly hate the topic, don't open the thread!

I'll never relate to people so quick to censor topics or art they don't like. Just don't take part in them. Why do some people need to control what other people like to talk about?

[Nikrnic]

I agree sometimes it sounds like it's all about the money but I think much of it is brought on more by everyone's frustrations of availability and the grey market pricing.

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[Chiboy]

A) A sub-forum discussing pricing and future expected values would be nice as it would declutter the main forum. As a frequent reader, these topics do, as OP suggested, get old. And they tend to permeate every discussion. But having a separate sub-forum for "value" topics (what discount is appropriate?; what is it worth?; will it likely go up in value?', etc.) might be a step in the right direction.

B) I have learned a lot here in 1 1/2 years, and it has fed my knowledge of and interest in watches. But one of the worst aspects of reading TRF is the constant focus on value retention. I wear my expensive watch every day, and I take care of it. But I don't want to think, "Gee, I just nicked the case. Probably cost me $3,000 in value." I never ever thought about my DJ that way in the first 30 years of wearing it.

Overall, I enjoy this place, but there are only so many topics to discuss and some of them get beat to death on a regular basis.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by superdog

To each their own.

I don’t like it when people dictate what I can or can’t do.

So I try not to do it to others.

Um but there are rules here such as no discussions on weapons, politics or religion among other things. That's dictated for a reason and agreed upon by you as a member and donator. Hard to say I don't like "this" but "that" is ok. There's no difference in what the op is suggesting but I can see this subject isn't as tense or that wars have been fought by...but still a bit irritating to constantly read about buying related solely to investing as the main consideration.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Um but there are rules here such as no discussions on weapons, politics or religion among other things. That's dictated for a reason and agreed upon by you as a member and donator. Hard to say I don't like "this" but "that" is ok. There's no difference in what the op is suggesting but I can see this subject isn't as tense or that wars have been fought by...but still a bit irritating to constantly read about buying related solely to investing as the main consideration.

Yes, but those topics (religion, politics and weapons) have absolutely NOTHING to do with watches. Like it or not, money/investment can be related to watch purchasing and ownership..

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[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by jb335

Yes, but those topics (religion, politics and weapons) have absolutely NOTHING to do with watches. Like it or not, money/investment can be related to watch purchasing and ownership..

That's why I specifically said that this topic isn't as tense or a reason wars have been fought over, I already understand that those aren't watch related. But there's also an open forum where we discuss all other things non watch related, and those topics aren't allowed. It's not just watches we talk about, and I was only making a counter point about not wanting to dictate something when there are already other things dictated.

I'm here for the love of watches and the technical and historical data related to them, Rolex in particular, not investing or whether I should buy this or that because it may be discontinued so it can be worth a xyz.

[BobDyl]

Would now be a good time to ask the posters who are *not* pledge members to donate? I bet it costs a lot to maintain this awesome forum where we all air our opinions on "free" speech and the like. Just sayin. Contribute here:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=576908

[jrs146]

Man, those poll options are heavily bias... Just because you vote no doesn't mean you love talking about money all the time. I can't choose either of these

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by jrs146

Man, those poll options are heavily bias... Just because you vote no doesn't mean you love talking about money all the time. I can't choose either of these

The options are indeed a bit right sided either way. Neither answer is really reasonable if that's the right word.

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by AK797

It's part and parcel of the market nowadays so we gotta roll with the punches, just like in life.

Originally Posted by BobDyl

I'm with you, Springer. The problem is that what's looks like an interesting topic (and not value or investment related) so often devolves into a value and investment discussion. And that's the issue. I'd prefer to talk about GMT fat font inserts *all day long* than talk about price/value/scarcity -- and I've done my fair share, so I'm guilty of it too.

You’re right....that’s when we have to revert to Neil’s post above ⬆️⬆️⬆️ Or, like someone said before....”Just don’t click on it”. It’ll always be part of the forum.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by BobDyl

Maybe this is just me but longing for the days when the discussions were mainly about merits, function, aesthetics.

If I am talking about the merits, function, and aesthetics of a watch, I also want to know the cost, whether that cost is higher or lower than MSRP.

The merits, function, and aesthetics of a blue dial Sky Dweller are much more attractive to me at $14,400 than at $19,000. Likewise, if I can save 15% on a fluted bezel blue dial SS Datejust, it might seem like a better buy to me at $7900 than at $9,350.

For many people, price impacts buying decisions, even in the luxury market. So I predict that pricing, discounts, and premiums will continue to be discussed here. And I think that's reasonable for a forum focused on buying something.

[exador]

Originally Posted by BobDyl

If my collection was worth $0 I'd still be a collector. In fact, I'd probably prefer it.

Happy to give you $0 for your 5711

[BobDyl]

Originally Posted by exador

Happy to give you $0 for your 5711

I didn't say the collection *was* worth zero, just said *if* it was worth zero!

[mj1214]

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

Censorship is bad,There are already too many “banned topics” on this Forum....If You don’t like it,Don’t click on it!

Agreed. Censorship is bad in any form. Everyday we wake up to the same things - it's hard to get a ss sports model rolex, these are not investments, and water is wet and the sun is bright. I still click on the threads anyways because I like having an outlet to read what other people like me with disposable income do as it pertains to this hobby. I also work in finance, so I can talk about $ all day, but I'm not posting about depreciating assets holding value.

[Dr.Brian]

Your poll needed an additional option in my opinion. Something along the lines of “I don’t care.”
Anyway, I tend to ignore the majority of the posts on this forum, so I don’t see these posts as a burden to anyone, perhaps excepting the moderators who should probably read more posts than the average member. Of course they primarily rely on people reporting offending posts as they cannot be expected to read them all.
I recommend just doing what I do and skimming right over most of the posts that don’t seem to interest you. You can also block people that you don’t want to read, perhaps many of these kinds of posts are written by the same handful of people? I block people with some frequency on a couple of forums as there are a good many unhappy people out there who want nothing more than to argue, spread negativity, or display wealth to a pathologic degree, even for luxury goods forums.

[Skwisgaar]

If I were OP, which I am not, I would start my own Rolex forum and make prospects swear to never, ever mention money.

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[77T]

I didn’t vote - but your question generated a new idea. A blocking feature so you can block displaying thread with certain key words.

In your case: worth and investment.

Then people who like to discuss watch values in places like the Vintage section are free to opine while you won’t even see them in your list.


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[Al1969]

Soon to come threads: “Is it safe to EVER wear your ROLEX? “

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by FTX I

No. I don't like it but people are free to discuss whatever they want.

That's not entirely true.

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[glassdial]

Don't try and a censor a forum. If you don't like investments threads, then I would suggest you don't read them. Simple really.

[BobDyl]

Originally Posted by Al1969

Soon to come threads: “Is it safe to EVER wear your ROLEX? “

It is safe! But only if encased in some kind of shock resistant foam. Either that or while wearing your WristBag (tm) portable airbag bracelet. Otherwise definitely not, far too valuable to wear.