2017 or 2018 SD 50th Anniversary

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Chaching

2018 is not the 50th Anniversary … simply put and would bet that future collectors will value it as such. Just my 2 cents.

Is there any proof when you purchase/order an SD43 in 2018, and receive a MKI dial, that it was actually produced in 2017?

[MCOSUB]

Originally Posted by Richris1

Is there any proof when you purchase/order an SD43 in 2018, and receive a MKI dial, that it was actually produced in 2017?

I dont think so. Whose to say in 30 years plus from now when you are trying to sell it..............that the watch you are selling was received by the AD in December of 2017 but you didnt purchase it until 2018?

Obviously the date on the warranty card is not the date is was produced.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

Does anyone care about the MK1 dial on a Deepsea? Is it more valuable? The answer is no

Are you talking about a 116660 vs a 126660?

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Thanks

At least I now understand why I did not care

Wonder how the timekeeping performance is of the various models?

No one cares about timekeeping. What matters is investment potential even though of course everyone says they are not ever selling but want the best investment. Lols.
Who buys watches they like anymore....those are the rare people now. Maybe since we like differentiating so much and separating ourselves from peasant regular Rolex owners we could call the real watch lovers The -wis savant- now.

[Duey]

Welcome to "Rolex Commodity Trading" - Easier and more profitable then buying Gold now a days

[Mighelev]

For clarity:-

I adore this model and have done since the first time I saw it and that is the driving motivation behind the question.

Prior to any major purchase I always carry out thorough due diligence. I only found out there was a Mark 1 and 2 face yesterday which I wouldn't have known unless I had done this.

The year and dial may not make one bit of difference no one really knows but if I can buy any of the versions for the same price I am going to go for the 2017 Mark 1 dial.

Personally I think a 2017 or 18 Mark 1 dial will be the version to have as that face is the limited 1 year run model (no crown between swiss made) but only time will tell.

Either way I cannot wait to get it and start enjoying it for what it is first and foremost... A gorgeous looking watch.

Thank you for the feedback everyone, positive and sarcastic!

[dannyr1986]

If anyone is interested one of the Jacksonville Mayors got a SD43 in last night, not sure if its a MK1 or MK2. Got the call, but already got mine elsewhere.

[kalo925]

Originally Posted by dannyr1986

If anyone is interested one of the Jacksonville Mayors got a SD43 in last night, not sure if its a MK1 or MK2. Got the call, but already got mine elsewhere.

They do still have this. Won't hold it. 4834 River City Dr #119, Jacksonville, FL 32246

[rudestew]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's not a limited run

Your right its not a limited run ........it was a limited run

[Locust]

doesn't matter, but please can we stop?

[rudestew]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

The watch commemorates the first Sea-Dweller back in 1967. It's a 50 years anniversary. Same price and you get to chose: 2017 or 2018. What do you think? Give me one reason for picking a 2018 mk1 dial.

because its probably with in the 12month anniversary

[VicLeChic]

How is 2018 within the 12 months of the 2017 anniversary year? Do you mean it was probably manufactured in 2017? Maybe, but we'll never know for sure, the random serial number won't give us a clue. A SD43 bought in 2017 however is guaranteed to have left the factory in 2017.

Originally Posted by rudestew

because its probably with in the 12month anniversary

[rudestew]

The sd43 was the end of march 2017 then rolled out april/ may , were not talking jan - dec 2017 . So a jan-march 2018 MK1 would still be a anniversary dial ? but this is only my thought process.

[crazycarlitos]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's not a limited run

u must have meant "its not a limited edition".... since sd43 with mk1 dial was manufactured for a "limited" time (hence, limited run)

Rolex doesn't do limited edition like Omega.
They make slight changes, especially on the dial, that WIS go ga-ga over.

[gccmd]

I would not buy any modern mass produced watch with “collectibility” in mind. The truth is no one can predict what reference will become so in the future.
I would venture a guess and say that not a single buyer had collectibility in mind when they purchased their Paul Newman Daytonas. Buy what you like, wear it and enjoy it and maybe if you get lucky your watch will become a lot more valuable in the future.

[TK-710]

Originally Posted by Infinity

If your going to speculate, the 2017 MK1 must be your choice.

True

Originally Posted by nvrp813

I really have a hard time envisioning how any SS Rolex will be collectible. Everyone squirrels these away now. It’s not like 50 years ago when they were used and abused, leaving few good examples left.

Probably more true.

[handdoc]

isn't it true that w/ the random serial numbers you don't know when the watch was made?...if so then you are "dating" the 2017 vs. 2018 by the papers only, which means only when the AD sold the watch, not when it was made...my understanding is that the rolex crown/coronet between swiss and made indicates a later production

[Chaching]

My warranty card says June 2017. I would venture to guess it's a MK1 and true Anniversary.

[handdoc]

oh, and i got mine in june 2018, and it has the original mk1 dial with no crown...so the date of purchase will be irrelevant

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Rolex Ref 126600 with the "|swiss|made|" dial is effectively a 1 year run (unless both dial types are being manufactured simultaneously)

Not sure what part of that is not "limited"

It would be easier to time stamp that “one-year” proclamation once people aren’t still receiving non-crown, mk1 dials, from ads. To my knowledge, and as evidenced by recent incoming threads, they’re still coming in “non-crowned.” If I was an owner of a 126600 with a mk1 dial, and I wanted to consider it a limited, unique, offering, with meaningful future collectibility I’d hope that “incomings” into 2019 aren’t still “non-crowned.”

Right now, nearly 15 months and counting after release, they are still being received with a mk1 dial.

But to be fair, f-serial 16610lvs were available into 2004 (January, 2004 is when I bought mine) and they still command a premium because of the bezel distinction. So even if the 126600 mk1 isn’t a sincere one-year deal, they still may still hold some extra value consideration relative to their mkx counterparts.

Who knows right?

Nice watch the sd43 is. But for my money, I’ll take a 116600 if I’m making a bet on collectibility. Whatever your thoughts are on the 126600 - sea dweller purists or not - the fact is that the 116600, as an entire flippin reference, was produced for 30 months. It sparsely sold during that 30 months. And it represents the last time that a traditional sea dweller silhouette was available.

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by rudestew

Your right its not a limited run ........it was a limited run

To the best of any of our knowledge, watches are still being received with mk1 dials. That can be a function of still exhausting old dials during the production process or Rolex can be exhausting the last of 126600s in the supply chain.

But what we don’t know is that mk1 dials are done. Until all incomings are mk2, we can just guess.

[rudestew]

Rolex are 100% only printing crown dials and if we go back to the first sighting we can almost date stamp it as the end of May . So the new dial was probably ramping up in March/April what with re tooling and distribution . If you consider a service takes 3 months you can start to see the picture that from a printed dial to a completed watch could have a leed time of 3 months . I’m not collecting watches and my SD 43 is a daily but if I was collecting this would be the one to go for .

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Dusko.Popov

It would be easier to time stamp that “one-year” proclamation once people aren’t still receiving non-crown, mk1 dials, from ads. To my knowledge, and as evidenced by recent incoming threads, they’re still coming in “non-crowned.” If I was an owner of a 126600 with a mk1 dial, and I wanted to consider it a limited, unique, offering, with meaningful future collectibility I’d hope that “incomings” into 2019 aren’t still “non-crowned.”

Right now, nearly 15 months and counting after release, they are still being received with a mk1 dial.

But to be fair, f-serial 16610lvs were available into 2004 (January, 2004 is when I bought mine) and they still command a premium because of the bezel distinction. So even if the 126600 mk1 isn’t a sincere one-year deal, they still may still hold some extra value consideration relative to their mkx counterparts.

Who knows right?

Nice watch the sd43 is. But for my money, I’ll take a 116600 if I’m making a bet on collectibility. Whatever your thoughts are on the 126600 - sea dweller purists or not - the fact is that the 116600, as an entire flippin reference, was produced for 30 months. It sparsely sold during that 30 months. And it represents the last time that a traditional sea dweller silhouette was available.

Agreed

[rlx123]

There is NO mark2 dial. The picture of the coronet between Swiss made is photoshopped. If there is in fact a mark 2 for 2018 then why have we only seen the entirety of only two photos of this dial on the entire worldwide web? I think it’s a hoax. Some fool is pulling your legs people!

[037]

Originally Posted by Bryantto

There is NO mark2 dial. The picture of the coronet between Swiss made is photoshopped. If there is in fact a mark 2 for 2018 then why have we only seen the entirety of only two photos of this dial on the entire worldwide web? I think it’s a hoax. Some fool is pulling your legs people!

It was probably some grey dealer sitting on a ton of them who needed some hype to move inventory.

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by Bryantto

There is NO mark2 dial. The picture of the coronet between Swiss made is photoshopped. If there is in fact a mark 2 for 2018 then why have we only seen the entirety of only two photos of this dial on the entire worldwide web? I think it’s a hoax. Some fool is pulling your legs people!

I hate to think that the pictures of the “mk2” were fabricated. In fact, I absolutely do believe that there is a 126600 dial with a crown instead of “Swiss made” which represents an “mk2” dial.

With that said, I do find it interesting that we are near September, 2018 and all incomings (here at least) are still with “Swiss made” on the dial. The watch was announced in March, 2017 and owners were taking delivery in May, 2017. I don’t think the “Swiss made” iteration can fairly be called anything resembling an “anniversary” dial offering given the lateness into the “year after” (2018) and the reference is still being received as it was the year before (2017 - actual anniversary year).

With that said, for the benefit of owners, and those who rushed to be a part of the mk1 ownership experience, here’s to hoping that the dial, in fact, changed.

On Rolex’ website, it’s still “Swiss made” for whatever that’s worth.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Devildog

If the 50th anniversary SD43 becomes a future collectible, in the way that the 50th anniversary Submariner LV has now become, then without a doubt the MK1 dial and 2017 purchase will be the preferred option among collectors. It will be seen as the true "anniversary" dial.

If it does not become collectible, then it will make zero difference. Condition and age will be key, not what dial option or purchase date it had.

Originally Posted by Infinity

If your going to speculate, the 2017 MK1 must be your choice.

What's the difference between a Mk1 from 2017 and a Mk1 2018 or a NOS Mk1 bought in 2020?

[normalboywatches]

Has anyone actually received a MK2 dial yet?

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

What's the difference between a Mk1 from 2017 and a Mk1 2018 or a NOS Mk1 bought in 2020?

I don't even want to know, pffff

[rambo99]

its just hallucination, nothing has changed.