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Old 4 January 2019, 02:02 PM   #1
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Icon20 Picture of Rolex Ceremic Links in newer watches

Here's a pic of the newer ceramic links along with the new screws (where the screw thread is on the top and not the tip). I recalled someone was curious to see a pic in an older post.
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Old 4 January 2019, 02:43 PM   #2
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Which Rolex has ceramic links?
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Old 4 January 2019, 02:53 PM   #3
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Which Rolex has ceramic links?
I think the OP is referring to the ceramic sleeve not the link.
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Old 4 January 2019, 02:57 PM   #4
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Yes, my bad, you are correct.

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I think the OP is referring to the ceramic sleeve not the link.
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Old 4 January 2019, 06:15 PM   #5
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Which Rolex has ceramic links?
My understanding is that only six digit pm references have this.
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Old 4 January 2019, 08:16 PM   #6
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My understanding is that only six digit pm references have this.
Most likely due to the softness and thus easily breakable links? Sleeping them with a ceramic tube increases strength

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Old 4 January 2019, 11:16 PM   #7
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Most likely due to the softness and thus easily breakable links? Sleeping them with a ceramic tube increases strength

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I wonder if this would eliminate stretch on SS bracelets too?
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Old 5 January 2019, 12:07 AM   #8
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Picture of Rolex Ceremic Links in newer watches

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I wonder if this would eliminate stretch on SS bracelets too?


It should change the friction of metal on metal between the old sleeves and center link. But if dirt and grit gets into the links and sleeves, the center link will still experience wear as it moves against the newer ceramic sleeve.


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Old 5 January 2019, 04:42 AM   #9
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Is the screw actually a different design when the sleeve is present?

I have only taken a link off my 116718 once, but it did not have this sleeve present so I am thinking it’s not all 6 digit pm references. I think it’s a newer addition
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Is the screw actually a different design when the sleeve is present?

I have only taken a link off my 116718 once, but it did not have this sleeve present so I am thinking it’s not all 6 digit pm references. I think it’s a newer addition
I was under the impression that this feature was only on the 40mm Day-Date range.
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I was under the impression that this feature was only on the 40mm Day-Date range.
That is what I had read on the forum as well. However, in the picture from the OP the link is clearly from a RG oyster bracelet. The OP posted a 126715 the other day so I am thinking the link is from the newer RG GMT.
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Old 5 January 2019, 05:34 AM   #12
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Is the screw actually a different design when the sleeve is present?
A closer look answers my own question here. The new design seems a bit odd with the thread on the same side of the pin as the screw head. I wonder if it could hold less tightly than the existing design where the thread is on the opposite side from the screw head.

My reasoning behind that question is that on the old style pin, it is held in place by the threads (one side) and the pressure of the screw head against the bracelet (other side). This new design seems to put both of those holds on one side of the pin, with a small piece of metal, which looks like just a slide in pin on the other.
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Old 5 January 2019, 05:54 AM   #13
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I recognize those Everose links . Thanks for posting. I was always wondering how the ceramic protected the pins.
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That is what I had read on the forum as well. However, in the picture from the OP the link is clearly from a RG oyster bracelet. The OP posted a 126715 the other day so I am thinking the link is from the newer RG GMT.
Good point.
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I wonder if this would eliminate stretch on SS bracelets too?
Actually, that is the primary reason. Bracelets aren't known for breakage but had a bad habit of so called bracelet stretch, this should add some longevity.
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Old 5 January 2019, 06:59 AM   #16
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It’s why I finally pulled the trigger and bought my 228235. Couldn’t deal with a bracelet that stretched.


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Most likely due to the softness and thus easily breakable links? Sleeping them with a ceramic tube increases strength

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Breakable? Unless your doing something seriously stupid or a massive accident your not going to break any 18k links. Your not superman. LOL

Especially not sleeping in it.
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My reasoning behind that question is that on the old style pin, it is held in place by the threads (one side) and the pressure of the screw head against the bracelet (other side). This new design seems to put both of those holds on one side of the pin, with a small piece of metal, which looks like just a slide in pin on the other.
No, it isn't. The older thread-bars are studs with no cap. The only thing holding the stud in the bracelet is the thread end taper against the hole, and Loctite.

If they are changing to a cap-screw with threads at the cap end, they can be snugged down like any other screw/bolt and be a much more secure connection than previously.

As to the sleeves, Rolex has been using those for years in their PM and TT models. The PM center links are thinner and the sleeves take up the slack.
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As to the sleeves, Rolex has been using those for years in their PM and TT models. The PM center links are thinner and the sleeves take up the slack.
So they're not to reduce "stretch" (i.e., wear) over time, but rather to deal with a structural difference inherent in the PM center links? If so, is it reasonable to infer that the sleeves would serve no purpose in a full SS bracelet?
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I was under the impression that this feature was only on the 40mm Day-Date range.
It's used on the Platona as well.
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So they're not to reduce "stretch" (i.e., wear) over time, but rather to deal with a structural difference inherent in the PM center links? If so, is it reasonable to infer that the sleeves would serve no purpose in a full SS bracelet?
Sleeves will reduce wear and friction, especially if the material is one of the common self-lubricating type, bronze, ceramic, Teflon, etc.
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The picture was taken from my GMT Master II Everose bracelet, so it is not just the 40mm Day Date that has these ceramic inserts.

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Old 5 January 2019, 09:58 AM   #23
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My AD suggested that the screw tops were getting stripped when you apply force on turning it. By having the threads closer to the pressure point of the screwdriver, this allowed for less screw tip strip. At least that was how my AD explained it to me.

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A closer look answers my own question here. The new design seems a bit odd with the thread on the same side of the pin as the screw head. I wonder if it could hold less tightly than the existing design where the thread is on the opposite side from the screw head.

My reasoning behind that question is that on the old style pin, it is held in place by the threads (one side) and the pressure of the screw head against the bracelet (other side). This new design seems to put both of those holds on one side of the pin, with a small piece of metal, which looks like just a slide in pin on the other.
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And it seems to me that the new screw pins are a little thinner than the old ones. Thoughts?
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