What would you do?

[sagla]

If the jewelry is around 5-6k and they do discount to the 3k then I would do it. I wouldn't buy the Daytona if the price tag for the jewelry is 3k and you are supposed to pay the full price 3k for that.

[1675-David]

If I came home with a new Daytona 116500LN my wife would kill me and no 3k necklace in the world could prevent that...

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 77T

I see your point and respect it, but you will not see extortionists change until some buyers report the practice to Rolex. I don’t see hypocrisy where a kidnapper is paid a ransom and then the victim reports it to authorities...or a car park booter charges exorbitant fee to unboot your car and you pay it just to go home and then report it...

Rolex has increased its own secret shopping here in US and the reps have advised ADs that this type of behavior is against their policies.

tongue in cheek. I dont like the behavior obviously. There is a lot of fake outrage generally though. Its a watch, not someone price gouging food for your kids at the grocery store. Report or not thats fine, just please dont buy the watch first. Have someone send a rolex secret shopper in to get the same deal... sure

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

this is hilarious, because people "standing on principle" would probably do it.... after they get the watch in a manner they deplore. All good because they got what they wanted then out come the knives. hypocrisy 101

Speak for yourself. There are people in the world who still have some dignity.

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[Spartacus]

Is the requirement for the purchase because you have never shopped there before? They may actually be doing you a favor, you may be leaping over others on the wait list.

I don’t fault ADs for hooking up their loyal customers.

Find a good AD, give them your business, and they will take care of you. This has been my experience.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Speak for yourself. There are people in the world who still have some dignity.

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with a lot of threads here i dont know. I hope they would stand firm. Principles are nothing when they are flexible. People get watch fever, its a real thing. apparently

someone without an issue with it, sure, buy it. With that deal and if i wanted a gift for my wife anyway i would. I wouldn't 't however think i was buying something i didn't t want to buy anyway. Somone who is dead set against it, stay that way for sure.

It happened with warranty cards too though. People said no way i would let the AD hold it... fast forward to a year later and a lot of the same people are allowing it when they get the call.... because its either that or no watch. They pick watch

[cwilliams21]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

You can't get a hot watch at an AD because you buy all your other watches somewhere else.

I beg to differ. This past Saturday I walked into a well known AD chain that I have never bought a single item from and was offered to purchase a SubC and or Sub Date with no hesitation. I was wearing my SubC so wasn't interested so I respectfully declined (and didn't want a Sub Date unless it's another Hulk that I want to replace). I guess on your side of the pond you tolerate those AD shenanigans but *I* for one do not play by those rules. There are plentiful AD's around my area that I can choose from that won't push me into purchasing a crappy necklace that my wife most likely don't want just to buy a desirable SS model.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by cwilliams21

I beg to differ. This past Saturday I walked into a well known AD chain that I have never bought a single item from and was offered to purchase a SubC and or Sub Date with no hesitation. I was wearing my SubC so wasn't interested so I respectfully declined (and didn't want a Sub Date unless it's another Hulk that I want to replace). I guess on your side of the pond you tolerate those AD shenanigans but *I* for one do not play by those rules. There are plentiful AD's around my area that I can choose from that won't push me into purchasing a crappy necklace that my wife most likely don't want just to buy a desirable SS model.

ive been offered both at US ADs too in the past year with no purchase history. Im talking abut daytonas, BLRO's, Hulks, etc. Those have massive secondary market premiums. Those are the watches most people are going to an AD about. Its still not very profitable to flip a sub C considering what a random seller can get for it which is less than a dealer can sell it for.

Those watches almost always go to big AD clients. A lot of big AD clients are secondary dealers buying all kinds of other watches. Some are just collectors who buy a lot of watches. Point being you need to be an AD customer already to get those most of the time. There are a lot of watch buyers stepping into an AD for the first time and getting mad they cant get one even though they own a lot of watches. They just didn't get them there.

[Twinkie]

I personally don't like that idea. I like the idea of buying my wife a $3k neckace too, but would rather it be from my own will. Instead of being forced to buy it for the right to buy a watch at retail price.

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[bebeqq1231]

For $15,400 for a Daytona plus a jewelry. It's not bad of deal. 116500 is now over $20,000.

[cwilliams21]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

ive been offered both at US ADs too in the past year with no purchase history. Im talking abut daytonas, BLRO's, Hulks, etc. Those have massive secondary market premiums. Those are the watches most people are going to an AD about. Its still not very profitable to flip a sub C considering what a random seller can get for it which is less than a dealer can sell it for.

Those watches almost always go to big AD clients. A lot of big AD clients are secondary dealers buying all kinds of other watches. Some are just collectors who buy a lot of watches. Point being you need to be an AD customer already to get those most of the time. There are a lot of watch buyers stepping into an AD for the first time and getting mad they cant get one even though they own a lot of watches. They just didn't get them there.

This debate gets no more energy from me.

[acfcheung]

I would do it in a heartbeat. A hard to get daytona for you and a nice piece of jewelery for the misses. Why not

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[feb29]

Originally Posted by sagla

If the jewelry is around 5-6k and they do discount to the 3k then I would do it. I wouldn't buy the Daytona if the price tag for the jewelry is 3k and you are supposed to pay the full price 3k for that.

There's a discount of 10% on the necklace.

[sagla]

Originally Posted by feb29

There's a discount of 10% on the necklace.

I am sure it makes your wife happy and make her silent against your purchase:) Imho, you should try to get a %20 discount on the necklace at least. I guess, if I were you, I would buy the Daytona and the necklace at 15k. You are most likely losing 1k, but if it makes you and your wife happy, then I do not see any problem here. Btw, if you make the purchase, try to save the necklace for a special day, BD, anniversary, etc. So you can save money for those special days:)

[Pw92676]

Originally Posted by acfcheung

I would do it in a heartbeat. A hard to get daytona for you and a nice piece of jewelery for the misses. Why not

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Agree. This, to me, is a gift horse that you shouldn’t look in the mouth. See other threads on how long and how much spent and still no Daytona in hand.

To be honest, I’m hoping the AD doesn’t change their mind while you decide and offer this up to sometime else.

[Navarino]

I am in the minority here but I would do this in a heartbeat. Especially if you do not already have a long, strong standing relationship with your AD. It be one thing if you have dropped 50, 75, or 100k with your AD on other purchases and they are making you bundle the Daytona with a piece of jewelry. That's a situation where I would draw the line and say no.

$3k though is not bad. At that point you are still under $16k before taxes. Hopefully there is some jewelry that your wife would appreciate at the store. I would also see what I could do about getting some jewelry that's listed for more than $3k for under or at $3k. Keep in mind if you're buying the jewelry at the listed tag price you there is probably some room to negotiate there (e.g., aim to get $3.5k+ of list price jewelry for $3k).

[doramas]

Denounces to Rolex Switzerland of the policy of that AD

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

unless you are a mod is that even possible?

I’m not sure

I’m not a tech kinda guy, but I’ve heard that people can pull up your IP address and get an idea of where you’re located.

Idk how it works or anything though

[feb29]

Originally Posted by schoolboy

I’m not sure

I’m not a tech kinda guy, but I’ve heard that people can pull up your IP address and get an idea of where you’re located.

Idk how it works or anything though

Your IP address is the address or logical location of your computer when it's connected to the Internet. A lot of people worry that their IP address might reveal their name, home address, age, what they look at online and more. That's just not the case. Sure, they might find out some interesting information, but nothing revealing.

[wytrader]

All the people with principles that thought it was fine to shop around for the biggest discount when watches were abundant, isn't this just the right business practice for an AD trying to maximize on opportunity?

Everyone is trying to throw the AD's under the bus now and trying to catch them out but when some were giving excessive discounts beyond Rolex's advised practices the party music came on.

The AD in question is trying to squeeze some extra revenue out of a buyer he/she has chosen shall have a Daytona. I cannot see the harm whatsoever.

To all of those with principles, have you shopped around for a discount before? Or did you just land your watches by going into one AD?
And what would be the fairest way of dispersing 116500's when they come in?

[mk2jag]

it's a matter of principle, only you know what to do. follow your own principles....

[Canforfair]

Tell them to stick the watch where the sun don’t shine that’s blackmail..


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[feb29]

Originally Posted by wytrader

All the people with principles that thought it was fine to shop around for the biggest discount when watches were abundant, isn't this just the right business practice for an AD trying to maximize on opportunity?

Everyone is trying to throw the AD's under the bus now and trying to catch them out but when some were giving excessive discounts beyond Rolex's advised practices the party music came on.

The AD in question is trying to squeeze some extra revenue out of a buyer he/she has chosen shall have a Daytona. I cannot see the harm whatsoever.

To all of those with principles, have you shopped around for a discount before? Or did you just land your watches by going into one AD?
And what would be the fairest way of dispersing 116500's when they come in?

I have to agree, very good point.

[Fedpete]

Originally Posted by Wedders

x3

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[Fedpete]

Originally Posted by Canforfair

Tell them to stick the watch where the sun don’t shine that’s blackmail..


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This entire game for a watch is exhausting.


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[Dr Watches]

Listen OP - there are guys on here who have offered to buy a Day Date at retail in order to get a SS Daytona at retail, and been told "no".

I think a $3,000 necklace isn't a bad ask from your AD.

[VicLeChic]

I'd do it if I really wanted a hard to get watch. It's either that or pay almost double preowned in the case of the Daytona. What sort of girl jewelry do you get for 3 grand?

[dwjez14]

Yes do it. The fact is you are getting a watch that if you don’t take this option it’s going to cost you way more non AD. You struck gold once. I don’t know how lucky you will get in the future being offered another one. The chances of being offered 2 Daytona is very rare unless your a very lucky person or big spender. This is your change to get a watch that is very hard to obtain NIB and warranty card in your name !! I

[sensui]

Look at the premium for the 116500 now (crazy I agree)....I would do that in a second. Just think of it as having a free necklace with a small premium on the purchase. Any ADs I know of in bigger cities are all "bundling" now or only cater to their longtime VIP/big spenders.

[nick800]

I’ve bought three watches in three months, one PM, and am being told a Daytona could take a long time.

Take the deal.

Better yet, bundle it with another Rolex instead of the necklace.