Volvo to limit cars to 112mph/180kph

[lig]

I love this Volvo.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...r-test-review/

If they limit the next gen V60 to 112mph there’s a 100% chance I would not buy one.

I would limit triple digit speeds to the track for the most part but that limit just ain’t right.

[Old Geezer]

Hey, look at the silver lining....Volvo owners will save money because there will be no need to buy high performance tires for those fancy rims. The cheapies with low speed rating will be just fine. LOL

[GB-man]

I wouldn’t personally buy a car with some bs speed governor that low. My right foot and my brain regulates how fast I need to go.

[BisonHead]

There is a an EU ruling on this for manufacturers over the next 3 years.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlton.../#33ed6cd7d145

Volvo are just jumping ahead of the competitors. Not sure why they have picked 112mph.

Had 2 volvos, they are great cars. We are neither Vegans or Knitters hahaha.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by mfer

Thoughts? Probably doesn’t affect their customers much. Think anyone else will follow suit?

I’ve always pondered (and quickly figured out why it never happens) why governments don’t regulate this. I know there are legal places you could drive very fast (tracks) and it could be needed for a safety reason briefly. With the advent of technology you could also limit cars to speed variably with gps to speed limits.

I mean it is the law, Right?

Well they are known for their safety and going that fast is against the law. If one wants to drive that fast take it to a racetrack. For those that disagree, better check their arrogance. Driving a car at 100mph which is a guided missile at that speed and can kill. There are over 30,000 killed on the road every year and it’s always among the top killers of our youth. Slow down.

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Well they are known for their safety and going that fast is against the law. If one wants to drive that fast take it to a racetrack. For those that disagree, better check their arrogance. Driving a car at 100mph which is a guided missile at that speed and can kill. There are over 30,000 killed on the road every year and it’s always among the top killers of our youth. Slow down.

I agree, the only time that I have gone over that speed was on the track and I have no need to do that on a public street and I think anyone who is driving like that should face serious consequence for endangering others around them.

Granted I am not a huge fan of the volvo design anyway, but I guess I don't understand all the negativity towards the decision that volvo made to limit their cars to 112mph.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by mannyv11

I agree, the only time that I have gone over that speed was on the track and I have no need to do that on a public street and I think anyone who is driving like that should face serious consequence for endangering others around them.



Granted I am not a huge fan of the volvo design anyway, but I guess I don't understand all the negativity towards the decision that volvo made to limit their cars to 112mph.

I think Volvo is a car company that values safety and I have heard their goal is to reach 0 deaths in their cars. The only way to go about this is limiting speed which is a major killer. I also appreciate the freedom element/argument but as Kris Krisstoferson said, freedom is just a word for nothing left to lose. I’m also all for pushing limits, just don’t do it in the next to the lane my wife and kids are in.


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[77T]

Originally Posted by BisonHead

Volvo are just jumping ahead of the competitors. Not sure why they have picked 112mph.

They didn’t pick 112. In quintessential Swedish fashion, they picked 186.6666666666667 kph and it just works out to 112 mph.


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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Chester01

I think Volvo is a car company that values safety and I have heard their goal is to reach 0 deaths in their cars. The only way to go about this is limiting speed which is a major killer. I also appreciate the freedom element/argument but as Kris Krisstoferson said, freedom is just a word for nothing left to lose. I’m also all for pushing limits, just don’t do it in the next to the lane my wife and kids are in.


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i look at the freedom argument a little different. A car is legal, beer is legal. A bar cannot legally sell a beer to a visibly intoxicated person (they do i know, but they are liable), a car cannot be sold that vastly exceeds any speed limit in the country in which it operates. I don't think its taking away freedom as much as it is keeping products on the market compliant with applicable laws. You are free to change those laws in by electing like minded people.

If speed limit is a fair law then limiting the speed a car is capable of is fair.

Forget about the car lobby for a second and think if a car manufacture had the same liability as a bartender as far as how customers choose to use their product. They would do that on their own.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i look at the freedom argument a little different. A car is legal, beer is legal. A bar cannot legally sell a beer to a visibly intoxicated person (they do i know, but they are liable), a car cannot be sold that vastly exceeds any speed limit in the country in which it operates. I don't think its taking away freedom as much as it is keeping products on the market compliant with applicable laws. You are free to change those laws in by electing like minded people.

If speed limit is a fair law then limiting the speed a car is capable of is fair.

Forget about the car lobby for a second and think if a car manufacture had the same liability as a bartender as far as how customers choose to use their product. They would do that on their own.

Agreed. And it looks like Volvo is taking responsibility and doing that and setting limits because unfortunately people can’t set their own.


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[dkg1616]

Simple tune fix if it bothers anyone

[77T]

Originally Posted by Chester01

I think Volvo is a car company that values safety and I have heard their goal is to reach 0 deaths in their cars. The only way to go about this is limiting speed which is a major killer.

I drive an older V70 so understand Volvo philosophy and design. You are recalling their goal correctly - Vision 2020: https://www.volvocars.com/en-om/abou...es/vision-2020

Trouble is, this Volvo goal means they’d need to build a tank to survive being hit by other drivers.

Eliminating speed, intoxicants and distracted driving are goals worthy of the effort. But speed is #2 behind distracted driving. #3 is intoxicated driving.





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[Chester01]

Originally Posted by 77T

I drive an older V70 so understand Volvo philosophy and design. You are recalling their goal correctly - Vision 2020: https://www.volvocars.com/en-om/abou...es/vision-2020

Trouble is, this Volvo goal means they’d need to build a tank to survive being hit by other drivers.

Eliminating speed, intoxicants and distracted driving are goals worthy of the effort. But speed is #2 behind distracted driving. #3 is intoxicated driving.





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Sure, but it is a great start and one they can control and one that can have a positive impact. Last time they tried to get rid of alcohol here in the states, things did not go well lol. I also see cell phones as particularly problematic. It’s like having and addicting substance in the car. People can’t keep their hands off them.


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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 77T

I drive an older V70 so understand Volvo philosophy and design. You are recalling their goal correctly - Vision 2020: https://www.volvocars.com/en-om/abou...es/vision-2020

Trouble is, this Volvo goal means they’d need to build a tank to survive being hit by other drivers.

Eliminating speed, intoxicants and distracted driving are goals worthy of the effort. But speed is #2 behind distracted driving. #3 is intoxicated driving.





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i also think it would be nice if every car had what DUI offenders get in their cars. breathalyzer ignitions. Dont wait until your get several DUI's first. I think everyone agrees that driving drunk is never, ever OK. How about being proactive then?

Plus its a great tool for people who have had a few, but assume they are OK to drive. takes the guess work out

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Sure, but it is a great start and one they can control and one that can have a positive impact. Last time they tried to get rid of alcohol here in the states, things did not go well lol. I also see cell phones as particularly problematic. It’s like having and addicting substance in the car. People can’t keep their hands off them.


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my wife's hometown was a dry county until about two years ago. There are lots of them in the south still. Weird because they just drive across the county line, but there is no alcohol in a lot of places.

[77T]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Last time they tried to get rid of alcohol here in the states, things did not go well lol. I also see cell phones as particularly problematic. It’s like having and addicting substance in the car. People can’t keep their hands off them.

Originally Posted by tyler1980

I think everyone agrees that driving drunk is never, ever OK. How about being proactive then?

Plus its a great tool for people who have had a few, but assume they are OK to drive. takes the guess work out

I agree that impaired driving needs addressing. One can be impaired by distraction, substances, sleep deprivation and many other causes.

But trying to use a breathalyzer, or legislation on cellphones, are each single-point approaches. We ought to use AI and self-aware vehicle sensors. Monitor driving behavior in real-time and apply learning mode AI to assess the driver no matter what is causing impaired driving.

Not saying self-driving - but the sensors do know when we are going over the speed limit, weaving, following too closely, reacting slower than safety warrants. At that point I believe enacting a countermeasure is within reason to protect others - including the impaired driver’s occupants.

I hope Volvo leads efforts to detect impaired drivers and traffic anomalies (don’t forget #4 is driving beyond the local conditions like rain). By visualising the traffic, GPS-aware speed limits, user interfaces like steering, braking, etc. then proactive intervention efforts by the ECU could solve many problems.

Before we hear about the Tesla self driving failures, remember they are at the same point the Wright brothers were over 100 years ago. So this is a long-term effort.



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[blassy]

I don't need to go that fast....I just need to know I can. Granted when my wife went into labor with our second child and we almost had the baby on the side of the road - going fast came in handy.

[Blansky]

You have to wonder if Volvo never announced it, if anyone would have ever noticed.

Even at 80 MPH passing someone, I doubt I'd hit much over 90.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by 77T

But trying to use a breathalyzer, or legislation on cellphones, are each single-point approaches.

isn't that what a seat belt addresses? one thing at a time. Also it wasn't an easy thing to do at the time to "force" them to be installed in all cars. Countless lives have been saved and its not controversial today. Its just normal

they still are not required on school buses which is insane but there are powerful forces trying to prevent this kind of stuff. My kids school buses in the UK all have them.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

isn't that what a seat belt addresses? one thing at a time. Also it wasn't an easy thing to do at the time to "force" them to be installed in all cars. Countless lives have been saved and its not controversial today. Its just normal

I remember how the lobby tried to fight it.

But, but, but, look at all the people that were saved by being thrown from their cars instead of dying in them.

[The Libertine]

Doesn’t make much of a difference to me one way or the other.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I remember how the lobby tried to fight it.

But, but, but, look at all the people that were saved by being thrown from their cars instead of dying in them.

yeah you always get the "what if i drive into a lake and get trapped"

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

yeah you always get the "what if i drive into a lake and get trapped"

Yeah, driving into a lake was always pretty high on my list of probabilities.

[joli160]

Volvo is Swedish, what else would you expect

At least we all know which brand not to buy.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by joli160

Ikea is Swedish, what else would you expect

At least we all know which brand not to buy.

fixed it

[SearChart]

Funny how Americans are discussing the speed limit of a car that still far exceeds any of your max speed limits... And we're not talking about an exciting supercar, but just a regular Volvo, so why even care...

[Ruud Van Driver]

My BMW is limited to 155mph but it's easy enough to get that restriction lifted. Leaving aside that I don't need to go that fast, it would invalidate my warranty.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Funny how Americans are discussing the speed limit of a car that still far exceeds any of your max speed limits... And we're not talking about an exciting supercar, but just a regular Volvo, so why even care...

When I lived in LA back in the late 80s there were tons of Porsches and Lambos and other fast cars. So cool.

Unfortunately the average speed on the freeway was probably 20 miles per hour. At 3 in the morning maybe 70, maybe.

[77T]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

isn't that what a seat belt addresses?

Apples and oranges methinks. Seat belts are a passive restraint and the car starts even if it isn’t buckled.

Mandating everyone pass a breathalyzer test before a car starts is about a behavior. (Unless I misunderstood your point).


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[HL65]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

Makes sense to me. Volvo knows their market well, I’m sure.

Do you think any Volvo drivers will ever go past 112 mph when they’re driving to their knitting club or the latest vegan rally? Unlikely.