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Old 12 May 2019, 10:36 AM   #1
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What professions will resist AI?

Not many I guess. Things can change really fast. Estonia will use a “robot judge” to take care of small claims court disputes and that can set a new standard. It seems the next generation will have a powerful competitor. What's your view?

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Old 12 May 2019, 10:52 AM   #2
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Nope...remember that movie...Terminator?
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Old 12 May 2019, 10:55 AM   #3
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Robot judge?! This is the end of days, gentlemen! BUY PM ROLEXES WHILE THE TREASURY STILL EXISTS!
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:06 AM   #4
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Robot judge?! This is the end of days, gentlemen!
Yup. I was really surprised. Incredible.
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:31 AM   #5
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AI is happening and it will continue to develop.

Sometimes these technologies turn blessings into a curse.

The trade-offs could be a painful b*tch.

Ethical considerations are more important than ever when creating these AI.


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Old 12 May 2019, 11:48 AM   #6
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That's a terrible idea. But we (Americans) have a 7th amendment right to have our legal claims heard by a jury of our peers -- unless someone argues that computers are our peers. I suppose these amounts are so low it'd probably be a bench trial here, but I still can't see us having small disputes decided by AI.

One of the main purposes of a judicial proceeding is to give everybody their day in court. Even the loser can feel he was heard. When the judge is a computer... emotionally the dispute doesn't go away. What Estonia is basically saying is they'll no longer hear civil suits for less than 7000 Euros
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Old 12 May 2019, 01:57 PM   #7
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Not mine (airline Pilot), however I think this may be further off than some think. At the end of the day the companies with the deepest pockets (airplane/ car manufacturers) want a pilot/ driver to accept liability for any accidents that occur. If it is all automation, when the inevitable accidents so occur, there is no one to blame but the companies with the most to lose.
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Old 12 May 2019, 02:05 PM   #8
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Mechanics, welders, plumbers, pilots. Anything working with your hands, should be very safe from AI.
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Old 12 May 2019, 03:37 PM   #9
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If drones can run combat missions, then other aircraft should be able operate regular flights without human pilots. It’s only a matter of time.
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Old 12 May 2019, 04:03 PM   #10
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If drones can run combat missions, then other aircraft should be able operate regular flights without human pilots. It’s only a matter of time.
Drones running combat missions still have human operators and humans making the judgement calls, they don't operate and fire on targets autonomously, the human-life stakes are too high. Steering an aircraft around the sky isn't the hard part and not the question, which is whether or not a computer/AI will replace human judgement.

AI introduced in aviation won't be resisted as long as it remains subordinate to humans making the final call on whatever decisions it may come up with. There will still be humans monitoring and able to override the process much like many other systems already in place.
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Old 12 May 2019, 04:14 PM   #11
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Private Enterprise just runs off on it's own little game and the problem is that governments lack the foresight to jump on the new innovations (Internet, Autonomous cars, Drones, AI) and do some serious study and planning before these things get a life of their own down the track.
The employment implications concern me as if I have learned anything in my life it is that idle hands do the devil's work.
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Old 12 May 2019, 04:19 PM   #12
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Drones running combat missions still have human operators and humans making the judgement calls, they don't operate and fire on targets autonomously, the human-life stakes are too high. Steering an aircraft around the sky isn't the hard part and not the question, which is whether or not a computer/AI will replace human judgement.

AI introduced in aviation won't be resisted as long as it remains subordinate to humans making the final call on whatever decisions it may come up with. There will still be humans monitoring and able to override the process much like many other systems already in place.
to add to your point, I think human decision makers create clear accountability.

with automation, who pays the price for deaths and injuries? Big corporations can afford to pay lawsuits. Execs will have no criminal intent because they'll say they didn't understand the tech. The tech guys won't face criminal penalties, either. They'll say it was a mistake, or that they didn't foresee the situation that led to the harm.

I don't think the majority of current jobs will be automated, but access to information has already become weird. Google filters out search results based on what they think is right or wrong... that's insane. Let's start with treating the internet like a public utility rather than leaving it in the hands of silicon valley whiz kids
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Old 12 May 2019, 06:05 PM   #13
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Mechanics, welders, plumbers, pilots. Anything working with your hands, should be very safe from AI.
I would have thought the opposite is true.

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Old 12 May 2019, 07:09 PM   #14
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That's a terrible idea. But we (Americans) have a 7th amendment right to have our legal claims heard by a jury of our peers -- unless someone argues that computers are our peers.
The US Sup. Ct. has already determined that corporations are people, so this would not be much of a stretch, would it?
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:14 PM   #15
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One of the main purposes of a judicial proceeding is to give everybody their day in court. Even the loser can feel he was heard. When the judge is a computer... emotionally the dispute doesn't go away. What Estonia is basically saying is they'll no longer hear civil suits for less than 7000 Euros
Different approach no question. Lets see how it works. All their government services are now online. The country is extremely innovative, and also beautiful. Tallinn is a lovely city.
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:25 PM   #16
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:28 PM   #17
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:39 PM   #18
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Good one buddy. I think the oldest profession is safe too
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:43 PM   #19
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Good one buddy. I think the oldest profession is safe too
It is not... NY post ran an article about 2 years back and Wired mag ran a post of sex bots being bought up in Spain and asia. Apparently there are robot brothels.
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:48 PM   #20
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It is not... NY post ran an article about 2 years back and Wired mag ran a post of sex bots being bought up in Spain and asia. Apparently there are robot brothels.
I saw a video. A guy test driving one at a fair. Not sure what to think of it lol
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:52 PM   #21
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Not many I guess. Things can change really fast. Estonia will use a “robot judge” to take care of small claims court disputes and that can set a new standard. It seems the next generation will have a powerful competitor. What's your view?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...red-JUDGE.html
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Old 12 May 2019, 11:55 PM   #22
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They are already extinct no?
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Old 13 May 2019, 12:19 AM   #23
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They are already extinct no?
https://www.gigmasters.com/services/mime

I guess Blade Runner shows we might have robotic mimes.
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Old 13 May 2019, 02:13 AM   #24
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Old 13 May 2019, 02:41 AM   #25
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Drones running combat missions still have human operators and humans making the judgement calls, they don't operate and fire on targets autonomously, the human-life stakes are too high. Steering an aircraft around the sky isn't the hard part and not the question, which is whether or not a computer/AI will replace human judgement.

AI introduced in aviation won't be resisted as long as it remains subordinate to humans making the final call on whatever decisions it may come up with. There will still be humans monitoring and able to override the process much like many other systems already in place.
If you think “steering around the sky isn’t the hard part,” then why do you need a human pilot at FedEx for example? They aren’t shooting at anything. So no judgment calls needed?
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Old 13 May 2019, 02:46 AM   #26
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AI is going to go deep. It's going to take on a massive segment of our infrastructure and it's going to come quickly. It won't just dispace low level work either. From cancer detection and ophthalmology to driving and taking orders at starbucks. Anything with repetitive or codable wrights and wrongs. A computer sharing a database of what something should or shouldn't be is far beyond what a single human ability can ever attain. We are already using robot lawyers to fight parking tickets and proofread an NDA faster and more efficiently than a human.

The unaffected is going to be the people writing the code/rules, basic trade skills and the arts. If you can write a novel or sing in vibrato. Catering to the enthusiast like mechanical watch making, hand painting, or replacing a manual transmission. Making a shingle can be automated, but roofing a house takes more interaction. Being the operator of the machine will be the safe place. SAM the robot bricklayer will build a wall 5x faster than a human, but he needs someone to tell him where to lay and how tall.
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:07 AM   #27
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Lots of professions will try to resist but there is nobody to stop AI.

Slowly, and in some cases quickly, all professions will be affected and overtaken by computers. There is no real reason to believe that science fiction books, movies are wrong about any of it. And I seriously doubt it will be any kind of utopia.

Who thought in the 1950s that corporations would soon take over the world, but they pretty much have, because money is king, and very few people have the character to oppose it.

People are sheep and so easily led astray by fast talkers and misinformation. There is no way to stop evil people from taking away our freedom and our security. 9/11 proved that people will give up their freedom and choices simply by the promise of security. Facebook proved that people will believe anything. Our political systems have all been coerced by corporate money and influence.

So who is really there to protect the sheep from any advances that serve the will of big money.
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:13 AM   #28
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:51 AM   #29
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I work with a lot of new technologies including AI and I will tell you this, it still requires human beings, and if you guys have kids, get them to learn code and robotics. Otherwise their futures aren't going to be very fruitful.
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