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Old 2 October 2019, 03:53 PM   #1
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Rolex AD Balkan

Hello, I have been eyeing a new 127611chnr rootbeer GMT/or 116613lb bluesy and will be visiting the balkans next month.

I am just wondering given the shortage of ss/two-tone model stock around the world, what are the chances of getting one in the balkans ad / Rolex airport?
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Old 2 October 2019, 07:08 PM   #2
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You must be extremely lucky to score. Rolex demand > supply world wide
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Old 2 October 2019, 08:49 PM   #3
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The demand exceeding supply is nonsense. It's supply that's been cut. Demand would have gone up with the crazy hype about being able to make 3000 USD off a steelwatch, but not to the extent you got lucky-riders becoming small grey-dealers.

@OP: Your chances are none. Maybe a 126715 can be done.
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Old 2 October 2019, 09:05 PM   #4
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Reach out to AD up front, maybe if they know one will arrive and you can make deposit your chance will be larger than 0 :) But problem of shortage is worldwide as the others said.
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Old 2 October 2019, 09:12 PM   #5
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As far as I understand, it's the SS sport watches that are in huge demand. TT versions are not too difficult to track down / order at AD's. Even the elusive Daytona can be found with legwork.

FWIW I read all of the above on TRF, so there's good reason to believe It's true.
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Hello, I have been eyeing a new 127611chnr rootbeer GMT/or 116613lb bluesy and will be visiting the balkans next month.

I am just wondering given the shortage of ss/two-tone model stock around the world, what are the chances of getting one in the balkans ad / Rolex airport?
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Old 3 October 2019, 10:04 AM   #6
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You wont know until you get there. We do hear stories of good timing and hopefully youll have at least a slim shot of finding a TT for you in your travels. Never say never....

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Old 3 October 2019, 02:28 PM   #7
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Last year went to Spain and Portugal, the only think they got was a white ss sky dweller and a full rose gold Daytona (which is out of my budget), went to hk, and malay, pretty much zilch.

Anyone got info on Melbourne AD?

Thanks for the replies!
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Old 3 October 2019, 03:06 PM   #8
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Last year went to Spain and Portugal, the only think they got was a white ss sky dweller and a full rose gold Daytona (which is out of my budget), went to hk, and malay, pretty much zilch.

Anyone got info on Melbourne AD?

Thanks for the replies!
That's 100% dead too.

It'll be funny to see upon an economic downturn, how "demand is still super high" (granted that the status quo is kept and Rolex sends equally as many watches now as during a recession)
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Old 3 October 2019, 03:24 PM   #9
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The demand exceeding supply is nonsense. It's supply that's been cut. Demand would have gone up with the crazy hype about being able to make 3000 USD off a steelwatch, but not to the extent you got lucky-riders becoming small grey-dealers.

@OP: Your chances are none. Maybe a 126715 can be done.
Nope, supply hasn’t been cut. Just not increased to match the demand.
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Old 3 October 2019, 03:37 PM   #10
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Nope, supply hasn’t been cut. Just not increased to match the demand.
OK, you know this how?
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Old 3 October 2019, 03:40 PM   #11
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Nope, supply hasn’t been cut. Just not increased to match the demand.
Exactly what my AD tells me also. They get people phoning from the other end of the country asking for watches or to be put on 'lists'.
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Old 3 October 2019, 03:44 PM   #12
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The demand exceeding supply is nonsense. It's supply that's been cut. Demand would have gone up with the crazy hype about being able to make 3000 USD off a steelwatch, but not to the extent you got lucky-riders becoming small grey-dealers.

@OP: Your chances are none. Maybe a 126715 can be done.
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I am the Rolex.
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Old 3 October 2019, 03:54 PM   #13
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I am the Rolex.
Let me know when you have a closer relationship with your Rolex AD
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Old 3 October 2019, 07:49 PM   #14
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That's 100% dead too.

It'll be funny to see upon an economic downturn, how "demand is still super high" (granted that the status quo is kept and Rolex sends equally as many watches now as during a recession)
Well, I think Patek and Rolex grey dealer price here is starting to shy away from its highest point, especially with the absolutely bonkers new batman jubilee price.

Will be interesting to see next year's stock and price level as recession is on the horizon
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Old 3 October 2019, 09:33 PM   #15
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Let me know when you have a closer relationship with your Rolex AD
It's actually what even the AD TRF members or their employees have confirmed several times on the forum.
They get the same amount of watches as before the SS frenzy.

Obviously the hot models will be reserved for loyal customers
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Old 3 October 2019, 10:21 PM   #16
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Hello, I have been eyeing a new 127611chnr rootbeer GMT/or 116613lb bluesy and will be visiting the balkans next month.

I am just wondering given the shortage of ss/two-tone model stock around the world, what are the chances of getting one in the balkans ad / Rolex airport?
You probably won't find too many ADs throughout the Balkans. The only ones I ever came across were in Belgrade, Bucharest and Zagreb. AFAIK, none in Sarajevo, Skopje, Tirana, or elsewhere throughout those countries. Airports in the Balkans tend to be light on Rolex-quality watches and more focussed on fashion watches - again except for Belgrade.

Good luck!

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The demand exceeding supply is nonsense. It's supply that's been cut. Demand would have gone up with the crazy hype about being able to make 3000 USD off a steelwatch, but not to the extent you got lucky-riders becoming small grey-dealers.

@OP: Your chances are none. Maybe a 126715 can be done.
It's not nonsense.

What is nonsense is all of the conspiracy theories about supply having been cut.

Unless you would care to produce evidence to the contrary?

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[QUOTE=WatchLurv;10023838]The demand exceeding supply is nonsense. It's supply that's been cut. Demand would have gone up with the crazy hype about being able to make 3000 USD off a steelwatch, but not to the extent you got lucky-riders becoming small grey-dealers.



OK, You know this how?
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The demand exceeding supply is nonsense. It's supply that's been cut. Demand would have gone up with the crazy hype about being able to make 3000 USD off a steelwatch, but not to the extent you got lucky-riders becoming small grey-dealers.



OK, You know this how?
When you do a month on month for a 2 year difference comparison, then you would know. I've seen the shipment of an AD (Not a Tier 3 shop) March 2017 compared to March 2019.

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It's not nonsense.

What is nonsense is all of the conspiracy theories about supply having been cut.

Unless you would care to produce evidence to the contrary?

I sure do. And the case isn't just for 1 AD. If you know, then you know. You guys sit on the other side of the counter having chit chat and espressos with the ADs and their SA's, I sit somewhere else in the shop.
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How do you know it’s been cut? My AD gets plenty of watches, just most of them are pre-sold these days. I don’t walk into every dealer I pass but not one of them that I have visited has complained about lack of stock.
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How do you know it’s been cut? My AD gets plenty of watches, just most of them are pre-sold these days. I don’t walk into every dealer I pass but not one of them that I have visited has complained about lack of stock.
See my reply above
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I hear the cheese is good around the balkan regions.
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I sure do. And the case isn't just for 1 AD. If you know, then you know. You guys sit on the other side of the counter having chit chat and espressos with the ADs and their SA's, I sit somewhere else in the shop.
Here's the thing. If a manufacturer increases its distribution network globally (as Rolex has done) but doesn't increase production, then certain individual, likely established, ADs are going to see less inventory.

That doesn't mean that Rolex are cutting supply. It just means that those AD's aren't getting as many watches as they did previously because they are going elsewhere.

Same number (or more) are being supplied - they're just being spread thinner across larger market

You are looking at this from an extremely narrow perspective. You need to look at it on a bigger, global, scale.

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Here's the thing. If a manufacturer increases its distribution network globally (as Rolex has done) but doesn't increase production, then certain individual, likely established, ADs are going to see less inventory.

That doesn't mean that Rolex are cutting supply. It just means that those AD's aren't getting as many watches as they did previously because they are going elsewhere.

Same number (or more) are being supplied - they're just being spread thinner across larger market

So a decrease of ~60% in delivery is because they opened up 100s of new shops? They also cut certain Tier 3 shops. So where did all this stock get sent to?

It happens that I do have knowledge of similar happenings in Asia, Europe and N.America. That would be as global as it can get. Unfortunately I don't have the finger on the pulse in certain parts of the world (South America & Africa), but I can just about imagine the same is happening there.
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It’s a Rolex induced shortage to keep prices and demand up. Period.
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When you do a month on month for a 2 year difference comparison, then you would know. I've seen the shipment of an AD (Not a Tier 3 shop) March 2017 compared to March 2019.



I sure do. And the case isn't just for 1 AD. If you know, then you know. You guys sit on the other side of the counter having chit chat and espressos with the ADs and their SA's, I sit somewhere else in the shop.
Please put the paperwork on so that it can be seen.

Perhaps start a new thread with all of your information.
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Please put the paperwork on so that it can be seen.

Perhaps start a new thread with all of your information.
More know it all information with nothing to prove it. I can only have “my finger on the pulse” of my dealer and another big dealer here in town. Both say they had record sales this year and continue to receive a steady supply of stock.
When I received my BLRO last December it was the 12th one they had delivered since their first in June.
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When you do a month on month for a 2 year difference comparison, then you would know. I've seen the shipment of an AD (Not a Tier 3 shop) March 2017 compared to March 2019.



I sure do. And the case isn't just for 1 AD. If you know, then you know. You guys sit on the other side of the counter having chit chat and espressos with the ADs and their SA's, I sit somewhere else in the shop.
Love to see your watch collection then! Bet you have all the smoking models!
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I seems highly unlikely that a company like Rolex would deliberately limit supply to this extent.
In the 'real world' a significant number of watch buyers are people who only intend to buy one good watch, to wear most of the time. They aren't collectors, or people who are going to buy multiple £7-10,000 watches in their lifetime, let alone each year.
If Rolex were deliberately making it nearly impossible for these people to buy watches, all they would be doing was driving these buyers into purchasing their competitors products.
This is not a good long term business strategy and not one that a long established successful company would employ.
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More know it all information with nothing to prove it. I can only have “my finger on the pulse” of my dealer and another big dealer here in town. Both say they had record sales this year and continue to receive a steady supply of stock.
When I received my BLRO last December it was the 12th one they had delivered since their first in June.
. Until you see for yourself or you sit at the right place in the shop, you'd know.

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Perhaps start a new thread with all of your information.
I was expecting this response. We'll have to agree to disagree.

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I seems highly unlikely that a company like Rolex would deliberately limit supply to this extent.
In the 'real world' a significant number of watch buyers are people who only intend to buy one good watch, to wear most of the time. They aren't collectors, or people who are going to buy multiple £7-10,000 watches in their lifetime, let alone each year.
If Rolex were deliberately making it nearly impossible for these people to buy watches, all they would be doing was driving these buyers into purchasing their competitors products.
This is not a good long term business strategy and not one that a long established successful company would employ.
Rolex has always done what they want and not given two flying "blah" about what the public opinion is. It's a brand with an attitude. As they said: ADs need Rolex, Rolex doesn't need them. They're easily replaceable.
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