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Old 6 January 2020, 03:53 AM   #1
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Philippe Dufour's personal Rolex GMT "Pepsi", look at the cyclops...

Hi all, I am new to here. Recently I read an article from hodinkee last year about spotting legendary watchmaker Philippe Dufour's personal Rolex GMT "Pepsi" he wears at the Baselworld,
but wait...look closely I discover the cyclops seems not align with the date window, slightly counter-clockwise. Is it a common issue nowadays or I am just having OCD. Please advice me, thanks.

Source: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ph...aselworld-2019



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Old 6 January 2020, 03:58 AM   #2
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:00 AM   #3
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If you have a new watch like that, can RSC helps you adjust and replace the cyclops only without modifying the crystal? As a new watch it is no good to open the crystal (dust may get into the dial ) , and the cyclops is separate from the crystal nowadays so it is possible to do so, right?
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:03 AM   #4
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No, they would replace the entire crystal. There's an anti-reflective coating underneath the cyclops on modern references. Removing and reinstalling only the cyclops would introduce a new alignment issue.
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This always drives me just slightly crazy when I see these posts. PERSPECTIVE.... the pic of the watch is not perfectly head-on facing the camera. If you look at a Rolex with cyclops just slightly from either side of course it looks skewed a little. Not saying an error in a human produced product can’t happen.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:05 AM   #6
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OCD... You’re assuming they took that shot at a 90° angle. How many times have you taken a picture of your watch to post it and it took five or six shots just to get it just the way you like.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:07 AM   #7
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I assure you the cyclops on my BLNR is perfectly aligned.. however when photographed just slightly skew... voila.




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This always drives me just slightly crazy when I see these posts. PERSPECTIVE.... the pic of the watch is not perfectly head-on facing the camera. If you look at a Rolex with cyclops just slightly from either side of course it looks skewed a little. Not saying an error in a human produced product can’t happen.
Exactly.

Notice how you can see the rehaut at the 6:00 side of the dial but not at the 12:00 side? That means you’re looking at the watch from a slightly downward angle, which of course would make the cyclops appear a little misaligned from the date window.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:07 AM   #9
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I am just having OCD.

You answered your own question.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:08 AM   #10
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Bingo.. this keeps popping up tho over and over again... also the bezel color thing... Art 101... Light and perspective...

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Exactly.

Notice how you can see the rehaut at the 6:00 side of the dial but not at the 12:00 side? That means you’re looking at the watch from a slightly downward angle, which of course would make the cyclops appear a little misaligned from the date window.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:15 AM   #11
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but wait...look closely I discover the cyclops seems not align with the date window, slightly counter-clockwise. Is it a common issue nowadays or I am just having OCD. Please advice me, thanks.
I'd like to think that if you had OCD, you'd factor in that the picture of watch is not a head-on, and that the camera is taken at an angle.

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Old 6 January 2020, 04:19 AM   #12
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Depending on the angle the picture is taken
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:19 AM   #13
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I think the cyclops is straight but the watch in the photo is tilted. The fact that Dufour wears a Rolex is HUGE kudos to Rolex.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:28 AM   #14
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Looks like a MK1 .....


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Looked fine to this rookie.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:32 AM   #16
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This always drives me just slightly crazy when I see these posts. PERSPECTIVE.... the pic of the watch is not perfectly head-on facing the camera. If you look at a Rolex with cyclops just slightly from either side of course it looks skewed a little. Not saying an error in a human produced product can’t happen.
This.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:33 AM   #17
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Yes, I think a thread about the “issue” is a huge overreaction but thank you anyway because it is fun to see such a connoisseur wearing the new Pepsi. It’s not just a hype piece, it’s real and it’s spectacular!
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It's just the angle on the photo. It usually is.

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I assumed the OP was referring to the horizontal topline of the date window vs the horizontal line of the top of the cylops?

A very slight taper from right to left.
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Your picture looks fine... cyclops and date window are in parallel,
but I think the problem in Philippe Dufour's GMT is the cyclops is angled.
In my own view, Cyclops angled is more serious QC problem than the date window not in dead center under the cyclops.
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Old 6 January 2020, 04:46 AM   #21
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Your picture looks fine... cyclops and date window are in parallel,
but I think the problem in Philippe Dufour's GMT is the cyclops is angled.
In my own view, Cyclops angled is more serious QC problem than the date window not in dead center under the cyclops.
Sir, with all due respect, do you think it prudent to make such an assumption based on haphazard pics? If you were showing pics of your own watch that you photographed under controlled conditions your assertion would hold far greater validity.
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Sir, with all due respect, do you think it prudent to make such an assumption based on haphazard pics? If you were showing pics of your own watch that you photographed under controlled conditions your assertion would hold far greater validity.
Thanks for all your patience. Most of us are just layman and we cannot view the watch every single time in "scientific angle" perfectly. So I just concern the layman issue and if there is actually Rolex QC problem about angled cyclops, what should we deal with this problem, that's all I want to know. Thanks.
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If the cyclops looks angled incorrectly there is an easy fix.... tilt your wrist, or your head ever so slightly!! Problem solved!

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Thanks for all your patience. Most of us are just layman and we cannot view the watch every single time in "scientific angle" perfectly. So I just concern the layman issue and if there is actually Rolex QC problem about angled cyclops, what should we deal with this problem, that's all I want to know. Thanks.
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Agreed... this is the one in my book.... I’d own both BLNR and BLRO in a second.

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Thanks for all your patience. Most of us are just layman and we cannot view the watch every single time in "scientific angle" perfectly. So I just concern the layman issue and if there is actually Rolex QC problem about angled cyclops, what should we deal with this problem, that's all I want to know. Thanks.
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Looks like a MK1 .....


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Looks like a MK1 .....


I doubt if there is a MK4 release soon, or it will become modern GMT "COKE" in Basel this year.
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