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Old 14 February 2020, 01:17 PM   #1
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Is water resistance a factor in way you wear a Rolex

Hey Guys—

In an emotional battle between two watches. One 100m water resistance. The other 30m wr.

I love the 30m we watch but fear the whole lack of water resistance bit.

Is this a big factor for you when choosing to wear a Rolex over another watch or am
I over thinking the need for water resistance.

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Old 14 February 2020, 01:46 PM   #2
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How deep is your bathtub?
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Old 14 February 2020, 02:01 PM   #3
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I'd like 100m minimum just for the fact you'll have a screw down crown and know you can go swimming and water won't do any harm.

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Old 14 February 2020, 02:08 PM   #4
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Min 100m if I am taking a watch near water.
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Old 14 February 2020, 02:20 PM   #5
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Yep.. If I'm snorkeling or diving I will usually look for at least 100m.

At the Country Club the only worry is a spilled drink. Most every watch I have can handle that.
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Old 14 February 2020, 02:29 PM   #6
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30m is not all that great, and that is not JUST for "depth rating."

Pressure also comes in to play. For instance, water pressure from a blasting garden hose may very well exceed the ability of the watch to resist leakage.

Just saying -- there are other factors involved beyond your basic "depth ratings."


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Old 14 February 2020, 02:50 PM   #7
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Tell me how a 'blast' of water from a garden hose is going to travel up the crown, past the crown seal and down past the 'o' ring seals on a twinlock or triplock?

Seriously?

Next thing will be not to swim too fast or splash your hands around?

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Old 14 February 2020, 02:53 PM   #8
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Absolutely a factor.

But having 2 watches allows them to coexist nicely.
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Old 14 February 2020, 02:54 PM   #9
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Hey Guys—

In an emotional battle between two watches. One 100m water resistance. The other 30m wr.

I love the 30m we watch but fear the whole lack of water resistance bit.

Is this a big factor for you when choosing to wear a Rolex over another watch or am
I over thinking the need for water resistance.

Appreciate the feedback.


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Question for you... Do you know what 30m water resistance means? That means your watch is water resistant up to 30 meters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you're American like me. For simplicity sake 30 meters is roughly 90 feet. When was the last time you were 90 feet below the surface of water?

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Old 14 February 2020, 03:02 PM   #10
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Question for you... Do you know what 30m water resistance means? That means your watch is water resistant up to 30 meters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you're American like me. For simplicity sake 30 meters is roughly 90 feet. When was the last time you were 90 feet below the surface of water?

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Well this is not true

Water resistance is an indicator and nothing more than that. The WR of a watch can be influenced by age, wear and damage of a watch.

A general rule of thumb is that a WR of 30m is NOT WR at all, you might wash you hands but that is it. The pressure of streaming water is to high and if you gat water in your watch you better be at the AD within a day or it is gonna cost you.

I have a Patek that has 60m or resistance and I do not dare to take it into the water. Do a little Google search and click on 'images'... you will fil this:



And on how the way it influences my daily wear, I never take my PP's on holidays or business travels. This because I do not like to leave my watch in the hotel room, so I wear it when swimming.
The PP's are dailies, just not when I plan to go near water
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Old 14 February 2020, 04:03 PM   #11
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Pim --- thank you for your very informative post and graph which reinforces what many of us know, especially those of us who are mechanical engineers.

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Old 14 February 2020, 04:11 PM   #12
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Yes it is. Due to my lifestyle, a 100m WR is the bare minimum due to convenience. It is also suitable for the activities that I enjoy which primarily involve water.
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Old 14 February 2020, 04:18 PM   #13
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Question for you... Do you know what 30m water resistance means? That means your watch is water resistant up to 30 meters. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, perhaps you're American like me. For simplicity sake 30 meters is roughly 90 feet. When was the last time you were 90 feet below the surface of water?

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A watch rated and tested to 30 meters is safe to 30 meters and as for a water jet from a hose I repeat.

Seriously.

All figures stated by any recognised manufacturers are obviously with seals in good condition and would be expected to meet their claims.

The Triplock on a Rolex is rated to >500 Bar or just under 7500 psi and on the Rolex website at one time this figure this was described as ‘with the crown unscrewed’.
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Old 14 February 2020, 04:41 PM   #14
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The trusted Oyster case and Triplock crown are some of the reasons I wear Rolex. Very functional. I wear swimming all the time, and on my twice-yearly scuba trips with my son. I never need to even think about my watch.
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Old 14 February 2020, 04:53 PM   #15
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To safely submerge a watch you want 100m or more. 30 isn’t suitable for swimming or even showering. Ratings of 50 or 60m are questionable for swimming or Snorkeling, and it depends very much on the brand. For example, the only 60m watch I’d trust for swimming is an IWC as they make it clear, their 60m rating is an actual depth rating, not merely an indication as it is with other brands. And I’d not risk a 50m Speedmaster even though it seems like it might be ok.
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Old 14 February 2020, 05:25 PM   #16
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Not at all choosing which to wear, unless your work, lifestyle, or event you’re attending is water related.
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Old 14 February 2020, 05:30 PM   #17
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it's definitely a factor for me..
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Old 14 February 2020, 05:55 PM   #18
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for rolex i demand 100m water resistance

for other brands they are more sensitive to water
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Old 14 February 2020, 06:00 PM   #19
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yes, i need 500m or more for my swimming pool.

normal equation is also potential depth you're going x 100m = min required water resistance depth.
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Old 14 February 2020, 06:06 PM   #20
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Hey Guys—

In an emotional battle between two watches. One 100m water resistance. The other 30m wr.

I love the 30m we watch but fear the whole lack of water resistance bit.

Is this a big factor for you when choosing to wear a Rolex over another watch or am I over thinking the need for water resistance.
I don't think you're over-thinking the issue. For me it's a big consideration.

Whilst I generally don't ever shower with a watch on (no particular reason, just prefer not to) I do swim on holiday and would expect to wear my watch when doing so. Therefore it has to be 100m resistant. Anything less is not recommended by the manufacturer.

But it depends on your lifestyle and how you treat a watch. None of my watches are 'babied' they are supposed to be robust and worn all the time. Some prefer more delicate watches and wear them accordingly - 30m would fall into this category for me... water resistant rather than waterproof.
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Old 14 February 2020, 06:22 PM   #21
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There has been so many threads dispelling the myth of “dynamic pressure”, aka flailing your arms in water increases water pressure. Which it definitively doesn’t.

And yet there are still people who believe that myth. And worse, continue to propagate it.

I beginning to think this is intentional misinformation or trolling.



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Hey Guys—

In an emotional battle between two watches. One 100m water resistance. The other 30m wr.

I love the 30m we watch but fear the whole lack of water resistance bit.

Is this a big factor for you when choosing to wear a Rolex over another watch or am
I over thinking the need for water resistance.

Appreciate the feedback.


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Today afraid most Rolex watches get such a pampered life no matter the W/R many are afraid to get them wet.But there are those that belong to mine is bigger than yours brigade, and buy watches with W/R that man or superman will never use in water.And would doubt if most watches today no matter the W/R would ever see water except for perhaps a dip in the pool or in shower.
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Old 14 February 2020, 07:28 PM   #23
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Depends upon what one is doing with the 30 m watch.
The example i have is a dedicated dress watch on a gloss black leather strap, so aside from a drop of water when washing my hands or briefly being caught out in the rain, it should be all good.
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30m is not all that great, and that is not JUST for "depth rating."

Pressure also comes in to play. For instance, water pressure from a blasting garden hose may very well exceed the ability of the watch to resist leakage.

Just saying -- there are other factors involved beyond your basic "depth ratings."


It's not really intended literally as a depth rating unless it's a dedicated dive watch and tested to the relevant ISO standard.
As the watchmaking industry standards apply for all other types of watches, then with this in mind 30 m is deemed to only be adequate for washing hands and a sprinkle of rain as depicted in the chart Pim has posted.
That's not to say that at the time of manufacture the 30 m watch hasn't been statically pressure tested to an equivalent depth.
But to be certain and for more clarity on the issue. Where is the test certificate to verify???
The short answer is there isn't one, and this is standard industry practice.
As a result and by default, the chart is the best guide with a healthy dose of prudence.
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Not at all choosing which to wear, unless your work, lifestyle, or event you’re attending is water related.
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Well this is not true

Water resistance is an indicator and nothing more than that. The WR of a watch can be influenced by age, wear and damage of a watch.

A general rule of thumb is that a WR of 30m is NOT WR at all, you might wash you hands but that is it. The pressure of streaming water is to high and if you gat water in your watch you better be at the AD within a day or it is gonna cost you.

I have a Patek that has 60m or resistance and I do not dare to take it into the water. Do a little Google search and click on 'images'... you will fil this:



And on how the way it influences my daily wear, I never take my PP's on holidays or business travels. This because I do not like to leave my watch in the hotel room, so I wear it when swimming.
The PP's are dailies, just not when I plan to go near water
Thanks
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Old 14 February 2020, 08:03 PM   #27
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100m is good enough for my needs. I don't baby my watches or abuse them. If it can't swim or take a shower with me it can't live in my collection.
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yes, i need 500m or more for my swimming pool.

normal equation is also potential depth you're going x 100m = min required water resistance depth.
500m for your swimming pool! That’s a hell of a deep pool - do you have a decompression chamber for when you come out of it?
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