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rcsami · 7 February 2020, 01:22 AM

*SCAMMER ALERT**

I always wondered how people get scammed and today I found out. Now before anyone comments, I know I'm stupid I completely agree, there were too many red flags but I was blinded by the watch.

This will be written quite fast since I'm on work hour, but I gotta get it out because of how furious and frustrated I am that this happens daily.

First of all his name is Justin Castylin (Not sure if he is a member here.. His FB has been suspended for some other instance) . Google him.. I should've before doing anything. That should tell you enough.

Anyways, he posted a Vintage Rolex 1675 for sale (Either in this forum or another Rolex group.. I'm a member of a few groups and I'm posting this in all) and I saw it seconds after it got posted, and message right away. So I thought I got lucky. He agreed to my price, and we got to talking. First few flags, he didn't want to accept wires to his business account ("Owner" of www.butlercitizen.com, which doesn't even load up but it is known in his local community) or personal.. His reasons, his business account has $3 mill in it and his personal account has more.. And he didn't like to share "private info". Anyways, he said he has a Chime bank account which he was willing to share the info to. Finally, I got his info and went to my bank to do the wire. My bank (RBC) didn't recognize Chime and therefore had to put in all the info manually, and told me there was a chance of it not going through. Next day I was told it didn't go through, thank f****** God. Now the whole time he wanted to get the deal done asap as he wants to sell his business and liquidate all his watches and retire.. So he said he had an offer from Watchbox which he was willing to take and for some odd reason kept thinking watchbox will send him a cheque overnight. That's another redflag. Anyways he demanded a deposit. He suggest the app Xoom. So I sent him a deposit of $700 USD. It took a while for the deposit to be completed and this whole while he was getting mad at how slow the service is. Finally once it was completed, he claimed he received nothing in his account. He confirmed he sees that I sent him the money via Xoom but claims its not jn his bank account. So I said let's wait a bit maybe there is a delay.. All this while saying he doesn't wanna do the deal anymore cause no deposit has shown up.. Anyways I finally called Xoom and explained, they said he definitely got the money in the bank. They emailed me and asked for a bank statement from Justin, which now he's denying to provide because again its "private". Now claiming because I somehow breached his "verbal" and "written" agreement that if he even does receive the deposit, it is non refundable. Just wanted everyone to be aware of this scum.

This is when I started googling him.. He never gave any references and finally gave me his eBay username. This is where I caught him initially.. I saw the watch was sold via him to username "tomsghost" a few months ago, and he even left a feedback saying that Justin sent the watch the sameday. I have contacted tomsghost without a reply yet. Justin claims that deal never went through and he still has the watch.. See pics.

Sorry it was rushed but as I said, I'm on work hour and more proof can be provided.

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rcsami · 7 February 2020, 03:42 AM

Forgot to mention.. I did offer to meet him with cash and he didn't want to, since deposit wasn't shown.. And also it's a breach of his made up contract.

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Humble michael · 8 February 2020, 01:05 AM

Why , why Why would you wire transfer money to anyone??! You handed a box of 100 bills to this person you have never even met and got NOTHING in return! except heartache . I just don’t understand- no matter how good the “deal” seems AMX or pay pal or NO Deal - simple. Sorry for your loss but consider it a cheap lesson compared to what you could have lost. :-)

rcsami · 8 February 2020, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james272

Why , why Why would you wire transfer money to anyone??! You handed a box of 100 bills to this person you have never even met and got NOTHING in return! except heartache . I just don’t understand- no matter how good the “deal” seems AMX or pay pal or NO Deal - simple. Sorry for your loss but consider it a cheap lesson compared to what you could have lost. :-)

Definitely a lesson my man! I've done hundreds of transactions between peolle I dont know, just over forums, and I guess since all of them have gone smoothly, I just let my guard down!

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Nick9 · 8 February 2020, 02:54 AM

Sorry to hear this, rcsami, you are a stand up guy.

Googled that Justin guy and wow, piece of work. Looks like things caught up with him; seems to be headed for jail (again).

Thanks for posting.

BillA · 8 February 2020, 03:03 AM

Sorry for the scam

swaini3 · 8 February 2020, 03:44 AM

ahhhhhhh. When will these stop??

Littletommy · 8 February 2020, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james272

Why , why Why would you wire transfer money to anyone??! You handed a box of 100 bills to this person you have never even met and got NOTHING in return! except heartache . I just don’t understand- no matter how good the “deal” seems AMX or pay pal or NO Deal - simple. Sorry for your loss but consider it a cheap lesson compared to what you could have lost. :-)

I disagree with the blanket statement "Why , why Why would you wire transfer money to anyone??!".

I've wired trusted sellers (the ones that sponsor the TRF drawings) and never had any qualms about doing so. If you know who you are dealing with wires are just fine. That being said, I would never initiate a wire to someone unknown.

GLADIATOR · 8 February 2020, 06:14 AM

Thanks for posting here too
A

sfgrrrl · 10 February 2020, 05:09 PM

Google him. A 4x felon. His mugshot is online, no kidding.

PossumDixon · 12 February 2020, 02:38 PM

If somebody tells you they have $3M in the bank. Run. They are full of it.

TimATC · 12 February 2020, 03:52 PM

I saw this ad on Facebook Marketplace a few weeks ago and traded a few messages with Justin. He went silent when I asked for more detailed pics. Sorry about your experience.

Steve.KS4HE · 13 February 2020, 02:16 AM

Justin Castilyn says, "Don't be a prisoner to your past. It was a lesson, not a life sentence."

Me, "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior."

rcsami · 15 February 2020, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick9

Sorry to hear this, rcsami, you are a stand up guy.

Googled that Justin guy and wow, piece of work. Looks like things caught up with him; seems to be headed for jail (again).

Thanks for posting.

Thanks bud, still working with the authorities to get him some time!

rcsami · 15 February 2020, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Thanks for posting here too
A

Just trying to bring it to light!

7 February 2020, 01:22 AM	#1
rcsami "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Montreal Watch: Tudor MilSub 9401 Posts: 72	scammer alert SCAMMER ALERT* I always wondered how people get scammed and today I found out. Now before anyone comments, I know I'm stupid I completely agree, there were too many red flags but I was blinded by the watch. This will be written quite fast since I'm on work hour, but I gotta get it out because of how furious and frustrated I am that this happens daily. First of all his name is Justin Castylin (Not sure if he is a member here.. His FB has been suspended for some other instance) . Google him.. I should've before doing anything. That should tell you enough. Anyways, he posted a Vintage Rolex 1675 for sale (Either in this forum or another Rolex group.. I'm a member of a few groups and I'm posting this in all) and I saw it seconds after it got posted, and message right away. So I thought I got lucky. He agreed to my price, and we got to talking. First few flags, he didn't want to accept wires to his business account ("Owner" of www.butlercitizen.com, which doesn't even load up but it is known in his local community) or personal.. His reasons, his business account has $3 mill in it and his personal account has more.. And he didn't like to share "private info". Anyways, he said he has a Chime bank account which he was willing to share the info to. Finally, I got his info and went to my bank to do the wire. My bank (RBC) didn't recognize Chime and therefore had to put in all the info manually, and told me there was a chance of it not going through. Next day I was told it didn't go through, thank f****** God. Now the whole time he wanted to get the deal done asap as he wants to sell his business and liquidate all his watches and retire.. So he said he had an offer from Watchbox which he was willing to take and for some odd reason kept thinking watchbox will send him a cheque overnight. That's another redflag. Anyways he demanded a deposit. He suggest the app Xoom. So I sent him a deposit of $700 USD. It took a while for the deposit to be completed and this whole while he was getting mad at how slow the service is. Finally once it was completed, he claimed he received nothing in his account. He confirmed he sees that I sent him the money via Xoom but claims its not jn his bank account. So I said let's wait a bit maybe there is a delay.. All this while saying he doesn't wanna do the deal anymore cause no deposit has shown up.. Anyways I finally called Xoom and explained, they said he definitely got the money in the bank. They emailed me and asked for a bank statement from Justin, which now he's denying to provide because again its "private". Now claiming because I somehow breached his "verbal" and "written" agreement that if he even does receive the deposit, it is non refundable. Just wanted everyone to be aware of this scum. This is when I started googling him.. He never gave any references and finally gave me his eBay username. This is where I caught him initially.. I saw the watch was sold via him to username "tomsghost" a few months ago, and he even left a feedback saying that Justin sent the watch the sameday. I have contacted tomsghost without a reply yet. Justin claims that deal never went through and he still has the watch.. See pics. Sorry it was rushed but as I said, I'm on work hour and more proof can be provided. Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

8 February 2020, 06:14 AM	#9
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Thanks for posting here too A __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

12 February 2020, 02:38 PM	#11
PossumDixon "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Scott Location: Philadelphia Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 166	If somebody tells you they have $3M in the bank. Run. They are full of it. __________________ 16710-14060M-16610LV-16600 114060-116710LN-116610LV-126622-116334 (3)

7 February 2020, 03:42 AM	#2
rcsami "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Montreal Watch: Tudor MilSub 9401 Posts: 72	Forgot to mention.. I did offer to meet him with cash and he didn't want to, since deposit wasn't shown.. And also it's a breach of his made up contract. Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

8 February 2020, 01:05 AM	#3
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,218	Why , why Why would you wire transfer money to anyone??! You handed a box of 100 bills to this person you have never even met and got NOTHING in return! except heartache . I just don’t understand- no matter how good the “deal” seems AMX or pay pal or NO Deal - simple. Sorry for your loss but consider it a cheap lesson compared to what you could have lost. :-)

8 February 2020, 02:54 AM	#5
Nick9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ontario Posts: 378	Sorry to hear this, rcsami, you are a stand up guy. Googled that Justin guy and wow, piece of work. Looks like things caught up with him; seems to be headed for jail (again). Thanks for posting.

8 February 2020, 03:03 AM	#6
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,877	Sorry for the scam

8 February 2020, 03:44 AM	#7
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,459	ahhhhhhh. When will these stop??

10 February 2020, 05:09 PM	#10
sfgrrrl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: California Posts: 8	Google him. A 4x felon. His mugshot is online, no kidding.

12 February 2020, 03:52 PM	#12
TimATC "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 4	I saw this ad on Facebook Marketplace a few weeks ago and traded a few messages with Justin. He went silent when I asked for more detailed pics. Sorry about your experience.

13 February 2020, 02:16 AM	#13
Steve.KS4HE "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 7	Justin Castilyn says, "Don't be a prisoner to your past. It was a lesson, not a life sentence." Me, "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior."

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