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Old 25 August 2020, 12:39 AM   #31
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See below. Provenance.
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I didn't know that these information are disclosed to public or that anyone can find out these information?
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Old 25 August 2020, 02:01 AM   #32
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My observation is that many if not most of the purchasers of platinum watches with diamonds are not nearly as interested as many people on this site concerning documentation, papers etc. They see a beautiful watch, want it and produce the credit card.
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Old 25 August 2020, 02:05 AM   #33
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My observation is that many if not most of the purchasers of platinum watches with diamonds are not nearly as interested as many people on this site concerning documentation, papers etc. They see a beautiful watch, want it and produce the credit card.
Thank you .

I understand that, however I still would like to know all the information before I make the decision to swap the dial or not.
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Old 25 August 2020, 04:54 AM   #34
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I have a 116506 with diamonds doesn’t state dial on the card. Neither do any of my other watches.
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Old 25 August 2020, 01:48 PM   #35
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I have a 116506 with diamonds doesn’t state dial on the card. Neither do any of my other watches.
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Old 25 August 2020, 01:59 PM   #36
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Thank you .

I understand that, however I still would like to know all the information before I make the decision to swap the dial or not.

If you are still struggling with the idea that a future buyer could find out you swapped the dial, then I’d advise you not to swap it.


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Old 26 August 2020, 05:51 PM   #37
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Does anyone know if the hands are exactly same for the baguette and non-baguette dials? Do those have to be changed too if the dials are swapped?

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Old 26 August 2020, 07:06 PM   #38
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If you are still struggling with the idea that a future buyer could find out you swapped the dial, then I’d advise you not to swap it.


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It doesn’t matter if it’s not stated on the card or changes the reference number. Especially if done by RSC.
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Old 26 August 2020, 07:20 PM   #39
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Warranty cards from the USA and some other countries usually have more information such as the dial colour and gem stones (if any). Warranty cards from Asia Pacific generally have the serial number and model number only. I wouldn't worry too much about it as you have mentioned the model number for the baguette and non baguette dial is the same.

Also, congratulations the Platona is a stunning watch!
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Old 27 August 2020, 11:49 AM   #40
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It doesn’t matter if it’s not stated on the card or changes the reference number. Especially if done by RSC.
I agree with this. As long as the dial is changed at a RSC and doesn’t change/affect your warranty and matches your card, which in this case it matches because your card doesn’t have dial description, then you can make the dial swap no worries. It won’t affect your sale in future.

IMO you should make the swap because the diamond dial Platona is beautiful. Congrats!
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Old 27 August 2020, 02:21 PM   #41
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Thank you for your reply. On the non baguette dial version that I recently purchased there is no description of the dial whatsoever on the warranty card. Only the serial number and model number (and name, date etc.). For the baguette dial there is?
I believe Rolex US has dial description, that's not the case in HK. I have also spoken with RSC in HK last year about dial swap. No, we cannot keep the dial.

I am not sure if you were on HK FB groups that caused a stir about a grey dealer selling a TT Daytona as brand new, but the buyer eventually found out the dial was changed when he bought it.

RSC will tell you when you authenticate, but you have to specially ask. Otherwise they just tell you it's original Rolex parts.

I would be concerned if there is no way to find out - big price difference between the 2 dial variations.

My 2 cent, if I have the funds to buy a PT Daytona, I would probably go for all original. You know how HK people are with Rolexes.
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Old 27 August 2020, 02:28 PM   #42
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I love this thread so much- the ultimate 1% of the 1% thread. Jealous, OP, but with diamonds or without it's a killer watch!
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Old 27 August 2020, 04:29 PM   #43
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If you can’t keep the old dial I would not do it. It will not match the warranty card.

Might as well go with a aftermarket diamond dial and keep the original when it’s time to sell it or trade it.
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Old 27 August 2020, 06:36 PM   #44
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I believe Rolex US has dial description, that's not the case in HK. I have also spoken with RSC in HK last year about dial swap. No, we cannot keep the dial.

I am not sure if you were on HK FB groups that caused a stir about a grey dealer selling a TT Daytona as brand new, but the buyer eventually found out the dial was changed when he bought it.

RSC will tell you when you authenticate, but you have to specially ask. Otherwise they just tell you it's original Rolex parts.

I would be concerned if there is no way to find out - big price difference between the 2 dial variations.

My 2 cent, if I have the funds to buy a PT Daytona, I would probably go for all original. You know how HK people are with Rolexes.
Thank you for your reply. The RSC told me that this information is not for public and are never disclosed. So I'm quite surprised that you can specially ask regarding the dial change history at a RSC.
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Old 27 August 2020, 06:37 PM   #45
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If you can’t keep the old dial I would not do it. It will not match the warranty card.

Might as well go with a aftermarket diamond dial and keep the original when it’s time to sell it or trade it.
Thank you for your reply. As I said and showed my card in previous posts, my warranty card does not have the dial description.
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Old 27 August 2020, 08:02 PM   #46
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Thank you for your reply. As I said and showed my card in previous posts, my warranty card does not have the dial description.
You going to go for it then?
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Old 27 August 2020, 08:05 PM   #47
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Last time someone posted about the dial swap they got to keep their dial. I can't imagine that their would be anymore of an issue with resale then if it weren't dial swapped. People will shop for the model they want and there are papers to establish the originality of the watch and the work done on it.
Recent policy is that a swap is part of the pricing. So OP is correct. He cant keep the old dial.

But if he wants to bring it back to the original, he just has to go through the same process and cost again.
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Old 28 August 2020, 03:27 AM   #48
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Does anyone know if the hands are exactly same for the baguette and non-baguette dials? Do those have to be changed too if the dials are swapped?

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Hands are different! A detail for sure, but it’s true, they are different.
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Old 28 August 2020, 03:56 AM   #49
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Hands are different! A detail for sure, but it’s true, they are different.
In what way? I compared the diamond dial online to my "base model" and didn't notice anything in the hands. Do the diamond dial hands have a manicure?
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Old 28 August 2020, 04:30 AM   #50
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In what way? I compared the diamond dial online to my "base model" and didn't notice anything in the hands. Do the diamond dial hands have a manicure?
The diamond dial hands have black on them.
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Old 28 August 2020, 04:32 AM   #51
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I think it depends also on which version of the warranty card you have - the newer version, which has the additional security features built into the snazzy graphics and, based on the pictures you posted, would contain additional information (i.e., "11 baguettes") - started coming out about two months ago (at least in the U.S.), while the old version may just contain the model number and serial. Putting aside for a moment RSC's record of service history, if you have the old warranty card, probably low risk, but if you have the new one I would think the exact specs of the watch (pre-dial switch) would come up when scanned. Either way, I would not suggest doing the dial switch unless you have exhausted the option sell the one you have and get one that is original in all respects. If I were a buyer I'd be upset if I found out the dial had been changed and that the switch had not been disclosed. In terms of resale value, marketability would also factor in, i.e., there are more potential buyers for a non-diamond dial than one with diamonds.
Either way, switch or no switch, a beautiful watch. Good luck!
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Old 28 August 2020, 04:59 AM   #52
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The diamond dial hands have black on them.
Ah, I saw that but wasn’t sure if it was an optical illusion.
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Old 28 August 2020, 05:01 AM   #53
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The diamond dial hands have black on them.

Agreed. It really helps with legibility. A subtle yet nice (and smart) touch.
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Old 28 August 2020, 05:43 AM   #54
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Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but the white drop tag has the dial information on it above the barcode. 116506-0001 without diamonds 116506-0002 with diamonds.
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Old 28 August 2020, 07:38 PM   #55
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Thank you for your reply. The RSC told me that this information is not for public and are never disclosed. So I'm quite surprised that you can specially ask regarding the dial change history at a RSC.
Thanks for the info, luckily I never had any issues with my Rolex with authentication.

So if RSC will not disclose this information publicly, and you cannot tell which dial from the warranty card - then there's no concern if you change dials and sold it after.

I'm curious now about the TT Daytona buyer that found out from RSC that his dial was changed.

PS. I don't think there is a difference with the hands.
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Old 31 August 2020, 10:16 PM   #56
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I did the swap two years ago, but luckily I got to keep the «old one».
Still in my safe, but consider selling it.

The baguette dial is a real beauty :)

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Old 31 August 2020, 10:38 PM   #57
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I did the swap two years ago, but luckily I got to keep the «old one».
Still in my safe, but consider selling it.

The baguette dial is a real beauty :)

More photo's here: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ghlight=116506




Beautiful. Mine has the regular dial which is my preference but the diamond dial has started to grow on me recently.




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Old 18 April 2021, 05:30 PM   #58
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I have a 116506 I just bought brand new from my AD one month ago. It's the standard dial with brown subdials. The card only says 116506. No additional information. I'm considering having RSC swap my dial to the baguette dial. It would all be completely legitimate and offered by rolex. The only thing where it may be designated is the white hang tag saying 116506-001 (standard dial) vs 116506-002 (baguette dial). Would any potential buyer care if the white hang tag isn't included in the set? Otherwise there would be no way to know that the piece originally had the standard dial and then rolex did an official dial change. Having RSC do an official dial change is no different than it coming that way from the factory. All rolex parts, all rolex work. I just don't want to do anything that hurts value, but I can't see how this would.
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Old 18 April 2021, 11:46 PM   #59
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waiting for my 116506 with baguette dial. I wondered what others who have the non diamond dial felt about it then moving to add the baguette dial.
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Old 19 April 2021, 12:00 AM   #60
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waiting for my 116506 with baguette dial. I wondered what others who have the non diamond dial felt about it then moving to add the baguette dial.
Do you ming sharing where you were able to source the dial? My usual watch parts/repair person has said they couldn't source the dial, and RSC has said they won't let me keep the old dial which I would want for the option to go back and forth. Thanks!
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