Compared the new Subs: LV & LN

[BLACKHORSE 6]

The sales manager at my local AD contacted me today. They got in a shipment today that included the new Submariners. I told her that I was interested in the new LV and added my name to their list, but that I wanted to see the watch when they got one in.

I have to admit to myself that I’m not blown away by it. I could definitely get used to the LV, and I liked it very much, but I’m not sure it’s the clear winner over the LN. There’s something about the LN that’s just so classic that it may be impossible to beat. I think the LV will end up as more collectible over time, but I don’t want that to be the basis for my decision.

[dmash]

I honestly hate the LV, previous and this version. Pepsi colors look elegant and age well/look neat. I just feel this blatant green looks completely out of place and odd.

The original Kermit looks cool as the bezel was aluminum and aged/developed a patina, but this one will look like this (essentially) forever.

[BLACKHORSE 6]

Originally Posted by dmash

I honestly hate the LV, previous and this version. Pepsi colors look elegant and age well/look neat. I just feel this blatant green looks completely out of place and odd.

The original Kermit looks cool as the bezel was aluminum and aged/developed a patina, but this one will look like this (essentially) forever.

I know what you mean. I think it would look better if the green was a little bit darker.

Maybe they’ll change the color over time. The 16610LV had some variance with the bezel over time.

[S2000_driver]

That LV is quite ugly IMO.

[cvo]

I am not a green guy too but why are they worth so much if no one wears them.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by cvo

I am not a green guy too but why are they worth so much if no one wears them.

Why did Tesla hit over $2700 pre split over zero news whatsoever?

Speculation

[DCheeta]

Yep, I agree. While everyone clamors for the green one I’ll just get a classic LN and wear it happily every day. Still, everyone seems to love the LV, there must be something to it.

[Ranger67]

I’m visiting my AD a week Friday to view these two, can’t tell from pictures how I feel about the LV so need to see in hand to make a decision.

[David001]

Originally Posted by dmash

I honestly hate the LV, previous and this version.

I thought it was just me.

I never understood the green, either in the kermit or the hulk.
Green is actually my favourite colour but I just think it looks too much like a kids watch.

I have a bad memory but I'm sure I remember being in ADs some years back and the LVs weren't very popular.

[horseShu]

Long time ago pre-covid, I showed a pic of the hulk to my non-watch officemates. They all hated that green bezel too.

[Yess]

I was invited to take a look at the new range yesterday by the AD I've bought from.
In person, the LV is a very striking watch - the AD wears a Hulk and we compared the bezels and its almost identical in colour.
After seeing the Kermit, I tried on the new Subs... To me, they are underwhelming - there's no vibrancy to them, and I don't know if it's because they're the display models Rolex sends out, but they also don't feel like a premium watch. My Air-King and my OP feel far more luxurious.

[s7horton]

I also had a chance to compare side by side. The LN was the winner for me. The dial made the hulk special, I tolerated the bezel. With the washed out green and black dial together, it’s a little confusing from a design perspective.

[Benzsiam]

I hope there are more people that don't like the new Sub. (LN&LV), so the people that really like them will have easier chance to get them.

I love both version of LN&LV, so I took them all.

[David001]

Originally Posted by Yess

After seeing the Kermit, I tried on the new Subs... To me, they are underwhelming - there's no vibrancy to them, and I don't know if it's because they're the display models Rolex sends out, but they also don't feel like a premium watch. My Air-King and my OP feel far more luxurious.

Why?

I assumed the display models are the exact same watches you can buy but with no movement inside?

What makes them feel worse than the old Subs?

Genuine question.

[1William]

I think that the new watches are fine from pictures and I look forward to seeing them in person. I am not sure that I am a buyer but a Submariner is always a great watch.

[padi56]

Myself always buy watches I want to own and wear irrespective of some perceived collectability or investment so called value.

[Chester01]

Until they can get that pastel kelly green to appear a deeper shade (same as the yellow gold Daytona green dial), I would not consider it. For me the sub is a black watch, like there is only one speedy pro. I would consider buying the other colors, only after I have the real deal.

[brandrea]

I really like what they’ve done with new Submariner line. I think the LV in particular, is understated and looks fantastic. That said, I opted for the classic 124060. To each their own

[Bigblu10]

Loved the sunburst dial of the Hulk. The dial made the watch.
Not impressed at all with the new black dialed LV.
If I were buying, the all black LN would be the way to go.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by David001

I thought it was just me.

I never understood the green, either in the kermit or the hulk.
Green is actually my favourite colour but I just think it looks too much like a kids watch.

I have a bad memory but I'm sure I remember being in ADs some years back and the LVs weren't very popular.

The LV sat in cases and people would say ‘who would wear that ugly watch!’. I kid you not, ask any SA who’s been around since the Hulk’s inception. This thing got hot purely off IG and hype, I guarantee half the people who have them would hate them if the ‘cool’ factor wore off.

Just my 2c

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Loved the sunburst dial of the Hulk. The dial made the watch.
Not impressed at all with the new black dialed LV.
If I were buying, the all black LN would be the way to go.

It’s more of a letdown not giving the WG sub a colored dial. That’s pretty crazy in my opinion.

[Jster]

I don’t care for the green bezel at all. In fact, I’m not a fan of any of Rolex’ ceramic colored bezels. They just look off to me, especially the red/blue version.

[Jster]

Oops, forgot about the TT Sub blue bezel. I like that one!

[Toproll85]

I don't see the point of just having a green bezel, the Hulk stays above and apart, really something special, with its magic dial. But it's personal...

The black is perfect here.

[JayHantz]

For me, I was never a huge fan of the LV with the sunburst dial. I thought it was too flashy for me at the time - and I like black dials. When Rolex announced this one - I became super interested. I hope to see this and the LN in person, but I think I am going to go with the LV. Either way, both are amazing watches and I think each could fit in any collection.

[nr1416]

Originally Posted by JayHantz

For me, I was never a huge fan of the LV with the sunburst dial. I thought it was too flashy for me at the time - and I like black dials. When Rolex announced this one - I became super interested. I hope to see this and the LN in person, but I think I am going to go with the LV. Either way, both are amazing watches and I think each could fit in any collection.

X2

The Hulk sunburst dial turned me off right from the beginning. I've seen the LV in person and loved it.

Regardless some people love it, some hate it. It'll be hard to get anyways.

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[10klakes]

This reminds me of the comments made about the 126710BLRO early on. Everyone was complaining about the bezel colors, the jubilee, and so on....

6-12 months later as they became available, everyone loved them. AND... people wanted the “ugly pastel” colors of the first ones.

If the people commenting here don’t like them, don’t worry- your dealer won’t be calling you begging you to buy them. They will sell all day/year long, from now till the next LV is announced.

[watchwatcher]

Originally Posted by 10klakes

This reminds me of the comments made about the 126710BLRO early on. Everyone was complaining about the bezel colors, the jubilee, and so on....

6-12 months later as they became available, everyone loved them. AND... people wanted the “ugly pastel” colors of the first ones.

If the people commenting here don’t like them, don’t worry- your dealer won’t be calling you begging you to buy them. They will sell all day/year long, from now till the next LV is announced.

Very true.

It also reminds me of the comments about the original LV-C circa 10 or so years ago...not only no love on the forum, but you could get a decent discount for one from an AD. Ask me how I know.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by dmash

It’s more of a letdown not giving the WG sub a colored dial. That’s pretty crazy in my opinion.

Agreed. Especially for a watch that retails for 40K USD

[mgsooner]

Soooo the LV is the latest watch that everyone hates...until they don't.