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Old 9 October 2020, 03:59 AM   #91
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As someone who is extremely cool, I find myself questioning even being here surrounded by so many self confessed uncool people.

WHERE ARE MY PEOPLE????
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Old 9 October 2020, 04:44 AM   #92
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as someone who is extremely cool, i find myself questioning even being here surrounded by so many self confessed uncool people.

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Old 9 October 2020, 04:53 AM   #93
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I haven’t really wore any of my nice watches in months, took up golf and wear a garmin gps watch 5 days a week now and at weekend find myself just grabbing my g shock. Still want a aquanaut but it more now just a collection to hand down to my son i think.
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Old 9 October 2020, 04:59 AM   #94
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Old 16 December 2020, 07:08 AM   #95
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disillusioned

I was disillusioned when I learnt that the Tudor Ranger had the same ETA 2824 movement as my Tissot Seastar, the Tudor was around £4k the Seastar was £250 and the depth rating was 150 meters greater, so a better watch for heck of a lot less, this really mess with my head.
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Old 16 December 2020, 10:54 AM   #96
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Bingo! It's not for a love of watches, it's for a love of trophies.

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Watch collecting is great. Especially if you collect many brands. If you only collect one brand or only "hot" watches then I can understand your issues.
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Old 16 December 2020, 09:51 PM   #97
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Stopped by one of my favorite jewelers to window shop the other day. Was looking at all the big boys and the salesman I was dealing with was brilliant. One of the most knowledgeable watch guys I’ve met in ages, great personality, and Learned my tastes very quickly and made a suggestion I normally would’ve overlooked. Now I’m thinking about adding an 18kt Ulysse Nardin San Marco to my collection for less that a new steel oyster perpetual. Plenty oh deals to be had on beautiful watches. J just might not be a Rolex



Heavily modified ETA was the only reason I didn’t pull the trigger but for $6k how wrong could I really go for a 40mm solid gold watch
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Old 16 December 2020, 10:05 PM   #98
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Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Finally I found my people.

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Up until now I felt like William Shatner at his first Star Trek convention.

"What the hell is wrong with these people????"
Ahem .... William Shatner is cool
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Old 16 December 2020, 11:47 PM   #99
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I've never done things because they were cool/uncool
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Old 17 December 2020, 12:23 AM   #100
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What I meant is that watches now seem to be popular like never before and that makes watch collecting lame in a certain way.
I was a big comic book nerd. Huge actually.

Now that it’s so mainstream, I barely enjoy it anymore.

Oh well.
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Old 17 December 2020, 12:47 AM   #101
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I've never done things because they were cool/uncool

Exactly. Oh look at how obscure my choice of [ ] is. I'm so complex and interesting.
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Old 17 December 2020, 12:54 AM   #102
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I was disillusioned when I learnt that the Tudor Ranger had the same ETA 2824 movement as my Tissot Seastar, the Tudor was around £4k the Seastar was £250 and the depth rating was 150 meters greater, so a better watch for heck of a lot less, this really mess with my head.
That doesn't mean both watches have the same quality movement. ETA makes 5 different grades and Tudor uses the highest level available. Enjoy your Ranger.
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Old 17 December 2020, 01:39 AM   #103
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That doesn't mean both watches have the same quality movement. ETA makes 5 different grades and Tudor uses the highest level available. Enjoy your Ranger.
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I confess I don’t know much about the subjet, (I don’t know much about a LOT of subjects ) But I thought Tudor went all in-house movements (?).
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Old 17 December 2020, 01:48 AM   #104
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I've never been one to worry about being cool or doing what's cool. I just do me; if people like it/me awesome, if not, ok. As far as watch collecting being cool or not, I think many base the perceived notion of the "whole" from the small sample taken from TRF. I will definitely admit the daily threads of what's a good investment grate my nerves!
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Old 17 December 2020, 02:08 AM   #105
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I confess I don’t know much about the subjet, (I don’t know much about a LOT of subjects ) But I thought Tudor went all in-house movements (?).
Me neither, Paul!

Many Tudor references have in house movements but a few models still use outsourced Swiss movements. My guess is Tudor will eventually go all in house over time.
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Old 17 December 2020, 02:19 AM   #106
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That doesn't mean both watches have the same quality movement. ETA makes 5 different grades and Tudor uses the highest level available. Enjoy your Ranger.
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Old 17 December 2020, 03:06 AM   #107
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Was never cool. But it’s even less cool now.
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Old 17 December 2020, 03:27 AM   #108
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The watch market for "hyped" pieces at this time is similar to the art market, vintage car and super car market. In that people are looking at it as investments or to make a quick buck. While the percentage of people wearing luxury watches might be the same or less there are more people on the planet than ever.
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Old 18 December 2020, 09:33 AM   #109
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I don’t like the current state. Took all the fun out of it. The hype, speculation, buying as “investments” and brands being over confident and treating longtime customers like they are doing them a favor. Longest I’ve ever gone without purchasing a watch in 20 years.
I couldn't agree with you more.
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Old 18 December 2020, 11:59 AM   #110
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I don’t like the current state. Took all the fun out of it. The hype, speculation, buying as “investments” and brands being over confident and treating longtime customers like they are doing them a favor. Longest I’ve ever gone without purchasing a watch in 20 years.
I agree, even though I just recently started actually buying luxury watches I have been window shopping and inquiring about watches at Wempe and Bucherer together with my dad for years - since I was a little boy. My dad was interested but didnt have the necessary funds to really buy expensive watches.

I always felt like the SAs were genuinely interested in talking watches and you could feel there was a genuine interest in treating the customer well.

Now I get the feeling - more often than not - that if you don't spend at least 20-30k every 8-12 months and buy stuff they can't sell you are nuisance.

Only the watch brands like ALS that are not overhyped are treating me in the old-school way - maybe it's a coincidence but they also seem to know more about watches than the average guy at the PP Ads or AP boutiques.
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Old 18 December 2020, 12:36 PM   #111
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I started collecting when I just turn 18 in late 2007. For 7 years, I was pretty active and I absolutely love / had fun with the hobby. To make a long story short, I sold out and quit collecting watch in 2014. I completely distance myself away from the hobby for 5 years, it was nice and I save a lot of money haha.

Really out of nowhere, I was bitten by the watch bug again. To my dismay, I walked into the super harsh reality. Unfortunately, we are living in a hype world now. Basically anything collectible with demand is being scalp / backdoor dealing / etc.

Look at Bourbon, Sport Cards, and even my other side hobby, Pokemon cards lol. And I hate to admit it, I'll probably fuel into this bull shit too. Because right now I'm currently saving up for a Pepsi BLRO (grey market price...)
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Old 18 December 2020, 01:09 PM   #112
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We have to Adapt, be subject to the hype or find appreciation in the options that are not on the radar of the masses.

It would be nice if there was a resource for collectors at point of sale with a real option to purchase. Maybe someday things will shift again but for now it is a cash grab and that part is uncool...that is also business.

Thankfully we have made some friends we can share our passion with both here and locally.
Folks who remember collecting when it was about the watches.
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Old 19 December 2020, 12:29 AM   #113
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I’m gradually going off Rolex as a brand I think. They seem so common now and so hyped that when I see someone wearing one my immediate reaction is someone with limited imagination. I recently caught myself thinking this subconsciously, looked down at my wrist (submariner) and laughed to, and at, myself!
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Old 19 December 2020, 01:59 AM   #114
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I wouldn't say that it's uncool, but it certainly has lost most of its charm. When I started, I could buy a very nice used Sub for $4K, now it's more than twice that.
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Old 19 December 2020, 04:37 AM   #115
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If being uncool is the new cool does that make being cool the new uncool?
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Old 19 December 2020, 05:27 AM   #116
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I'm convinced that I never - ever - do anything because it's considered cool.

Cool is by definition - very uncool - the minute you think it's cool. Ya' dig ?

I've always been a geek on certain collectibles...started at age 10 with comic books.

When the hype builds is where I get all bent out of shape.
And that's a personal issue I have with hyped collectibles.

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Yeah, get in line pal. "
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Old 19 December 2020, 05:34 AM   #117
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With all the changes that happened on the last couple years would you agree that watch collecting got popular for the wrong reasons and is getting uncool? If you don't agree no problem. I'm just asking.

Interesting thought. It’s not really popular with most of my friends so for me it is still a cool hobby, which i share only with one or two friends.

Generally speaking i don’t consider the Internet to be real (this forum aside obviously!!) so the popularity of the masses is irrelevant to me.


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Old 19 December 2020, 06:55 AM   #118
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It’s so uncool it’s cool in a uncool way , so in a way it’s totally uncooly cool .
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