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9 December 2020, 12:37 AM | #1 |
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Scammer Alert - MBCA
Hi, I'm new to this watch scene and looking to purchase my first Rolex, currently checking the 116610LN and 114060. Needless to say, I'm trying to be extremely cautious when it comes to sending this large of amount of money to a stranger, especially coming across the first scammer here.
So this listing appears too good to be true, a 2019 for $9500. The seller, with only 10 posts, has several listings and is a pledge member (which I learn doesn't mean anything aside from the $30 donation) so I kept researching. I contacted the email and received a response asking where I'm located. I said I'm not local so it'll need to be shipped. But after asking for more pictures at different angles and one that shows the watch set to a certain time with his name and date written on paper, there was no reply. Then I did a reverse image search, and of course I found an another listing at a different forum over a year ago with different contact info. If I have this all wrong, please delete. Otherwise, please ban this user and remove all his posts. Finally, perhaps implement some sort of test/verification before a user can post a for sale listing? |
9 December 2020, 12:45 AM | #2 |
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Great job OP. This is what's expected from every buyer to do before purchasing something online. Looks like scam as you can't have 1 year Sub without selling.
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9 December 2020, 01:13 AM | #3 |
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Shouldn't you report his for sale post to the moderators?
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9 December 2020, 03:02 AM | #4 |
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strikefreedom, you are actually someone who DID his homework.
Yep. Run from that listing. Hopefully others will read and learn from strikefreedom's post and diligence. Too many simply jump on something and lose their money.
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9 December 2020, 03:05 AM | #5 |
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Buy the seller first.
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9 December 2020, 03:38 AM | #6 |
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Great job, I've purchased 2 watches from resellers and I went through similar checks with my dealers.
BUT.... It doesn't matter how much homework you do, the day you wire $15k or more to someone you've never met, and don't have the watch in your hands is nerve wrecking. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk |
9 December 2020, 03:49 AM | #7 |
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Just did it.
It upsets me that people are losing their hard earned money to scammers, who get away with this and just repeat again under a different name. It really should be mandatory to post a picture showing the watch set at certain time with their username and date written on paper next to it. This is a common practice at many classifieds forum, and I'm very surprised it's not here given the transaction value. |
9 December 2020, 03:53 AM | #8 |
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Good thinking on your part for the time setting verification pics, similar to Chrono 24.
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9 December 2020, 05:07 AM | #9 | |
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strikefreedom, How did you report MBCA's sale ad? It is still available! You should return to the post and click the exclamation point in the triangle and explain your experience with the seller. Also add any personal info you have on the seller, here. So if scammer re-uses them others may find this post. |
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9 December 2020, 05:23 AM | #10 | |
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We didn't get that far, no reply since I asked for more info. |
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9 December 2020, 05:25 AM | #11 | |
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Like this, scammer found: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=10973967 |
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9 December 2020, 06:08 AM | #12 |
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Thats seems like a great idea and a good tool to have a mandatory signed time check. Why not... one scammer is one too many.
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9 December 2020, 06:38 AM | #13 |
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Thanks guys, taken care of.
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Disagree. So DavidSW and a bunch of amazing, high volume sellers should be forced to do a signed time check with literally 100s and 1000s of listings because a certain few buyers can’t take even the most basic, elementary steps to protect themselves? Forget it. I say: put the burden on the buyers, let them beware, do basis due diligence, and then find sympathy elsewhere if they don’t take commonsense steps to protect themselves. The Vast majority of buyers have no problem transacting safely in the modern world. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Worked with Matt at WatchExchangeCompany. Great experience. Even though he had references and an established shop, I was skittish enough to pay the fee and use PayPal for part of the transaction. That might be one way to establish a level of comfort for those new to the game (like me).
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9 December 2020, 08:45 AM | #18 | |
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Not being negative towards your post, just trying to think about ways to better the process as it's in everyones interest (who is a genuine WIS). Sent from my VOG-L09 using Tapatalk
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9 December 2020, 02:12 PM | #22 | |
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Where do you draw the line? ‘Guys like you’? 100 posts? 500? Any dude can just run up his post numbers. 10 entries in who’s who? 20? 30? What about a negative posting? And why not put some parameters on buyers, who can be scammers too?? 200 posts for those guys to buy? 150? Endorsements on who’s who? Ultimately there’s no substitute for buyers being careful. Onus is on us!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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9 December 2020, 02:14 PM | #23 |
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9 December 2020, 02:49 PM | #24 |
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9 December 2020, 11:39 PM | #25 |
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Ha No substitute for using CC for payment! Nice to check out sellers f2f etc but ultimately you must protect yourself just common sense. :-)
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10 December 2020, 01:47 AM | #26 |
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I second this. Many sellers say they’ll only take wire transfer but many many more will take PayPal and CC. Especially if they’re selling a common watch Id rather find a seller willing to take CC or PayPal. If they don’t trust you why should you trust them?
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