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Solar · 17 April 2009, 12:02 AM

Reading the post here about damage to Rolexes. One poster wrote that his Cyclops fell off when his DJ fell on a tile floor.

Which begs the question, how do they attach Cyclops, and how do they remove them if they are scratched? Is it a big deal? Obviously, its some sort of glue, but being a woodworker who uses a variety of glues, I'm curious to know if anyone here has direct experience with this.

Chris

Atomant · 17 April 2009, 12:41 AM

Can't exactly tell you how is it attached or what kinda glue they use. It's glued on.

DSJ · 17 April 2009, 12:42 AM

Glue.

seantk · 17 April 2009, 12:55 AM

Probably a Crystal UV bonding adhesive.

Sean

rajurama · 17 April 2009, 12:57 AM

transparent glue...

FlyingMoose · 17 April 2009, 12:58 AM

I don't think they remove it if it's scratched, I think they just replace the whole crystal.

Solar · 17 April 2009, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingMoose

I don't think they remove it if it's scratched, I think they just replace the whole crystal.

That would make sense. I tried looking for something on the 'net showing the process of putting Cyclops to crystal, no luck yet.

C

watchmaker · 17 April 2009, 09:17 AM

To maintain my parts account t with Rolex, one of the tools I had to buy was a set of dies, which cover the entire crystal leaving a cyclops sized gap in the exact place to aid in resetting. As for the adhesive, a Rolex compound which I cannot divulge.

valentine · 17 April 2009, 09:19 AM

knowing rolex...its gorilla glue..but they'd come up with some 40 hour special process and call it something like glue-a-chrom.

dkpw · 17 April 2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchmaker

To maintain my parts account t with Rolex, one of the tools I had to buy was a set of dies, which cover the entire crystal leaving a cyclops sized gap in the exact place to aid in resetting. As for the adhesive, a Rolex compound which I cannot divulge.

Thanks Scott - a very interesting, if still cryptic, insight.

watchmaker · 17 April 2009, 09:28 AM

It is glue. The exact type, I don't know. I have a little White bottle I get from Rolex. No markings. It's uncommon to need to replace one though.

Dalton · 17 April 2009, 09:32 AM

It's called Seiko Glue.

thecoinopcollector · 17 April 2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valentine

knowing rolex...its gorilla glue..but they'd come up with some 40 hour special process and call it something like glue-a-chrom.

This is something I will very rarely give up because its used way too much, but Valentine you deserve a

valentine · 17 April 2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thecoinopcollector

This is something I will very rarely give up because its used way too much, but Valentine you deserve a

thanks marc!

glad somebody appreciated that one!

postiff · 17 April 2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solar

Reading the post here about damage to Rolexes. One poster wrote that his Cyclops fell off when his DJ fell on a tile floor.

Which begs the question, how do they attach Cyclops, and how do they remove them if they are scratched? Is it a big deal? Obviously, its some sort of glue, but being a woodworker who uses a variety of glues, I'm curious to know if anyone here has direct experience with this.

Chris

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LocoNBroko · 17 April 2009, 10:37 AM

This may sound incredibly odd, but my watchmaker swears by "Super Glue" brand UV activating adhesive. I have chipped the cyclops on my 16610 twice and he has replaced them for me. He also has the "jigs" to properly align them when replacing. I have also been told that I better never chip the one on my GMT IIc because he cant get that replacement cyclops with AR.
The last time I had one replaced was in 2005 and the watch has been worn almost every day since with no issues.

rescue7 · 17 April 2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchmaker

It is glue. The exact type, I don't know. I have a little White bottle I get from Rolex. No markings. It's uncommon to need to replace one though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalton

It's called Seiko Glue.

Thanks techy's, I always chat with the Rolex tech-expert at my AD.

pdxrolex · 17 April 2009, 11:44 AM

I believe there is an actual gasket on sport models. White derlin material- http://www.watchmaterial.com/catalog/l_sap206cn.jpg

jmsrolls · 17 April 2009, 08:17 PM

Someone posted the name of the glue last year - an exotic name I cannot recall.

Regardless, a couple of days of the crystal soaking in acetone allows easy removal.

Fr. John†

Solar · 17 April 2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkpw

Thanks Scott - a very interesting, if still cryptic, insight.

Agreed, thanks for the info. Also the preceeding post by Father John about how they remove the cyclops, which would also make sense.

C

17 April 2009, 12:02 AM	#1
Solar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North America Watch: their hands, baby. Posts: 1,116	How do they attach a Cyclops? Reading the post here about damage to Rolexes. One poster wrote that his Cyclops fell off when his DJ fell on a tile floor. Which begs the question, how do they attach Cyclops, and how do they remove them if they are scratched? Is it a big deal? Obviously, its some sort of glue, but being a woodworker who uses a variety of glues, I'm curious to know if anyone here has direct experience with this. Chris

17 April 2009, 12:41 AM	#2
Atomant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fernwood Posts: 3,455	Can't exactly tell you how is it attached or what kinda glue they use. It's glued on. __________________ 116613LN 16600SD 16610LV 116710 16710 16570 Speedy 3570.50 PAM25 Oris TT1 and a bunch of G-Shocks. Flipped: Daytona 116520 Seamaster 2231.80

17 April 2009, 12:42 AM	#3
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	Glue. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

17 April 2009, 12:55 AM	#4
seantk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Sean Location: West Florida Posts: 2,671	Probably a Crystal UV bonding adhesive. Sean __________________ "Life is frittered away with detail... simplify, simplify!" Henry D. Thoreau

17 April 2009, 12:57 AM	#5
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,090	transparent glue...

17 April 2009, 12:58 AM	#6
FlyingMoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York, USA Posts: 502	I don't think they remove it if it's scratched, I think they just replace the whole crystal.

17 April 2009, 09:17 AM	#8
watchmaker TechXpert Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: London Posts: 2,242	To maintain my parts account t with Rolex, one of the tools I had to buy was a set of dies, which cover the entire crystal leaving a cyclops sized gap in the exact place to aid in resetting. As for the adhesive, a Rolex compound which I cannot divulge.

17 April 2009, 09:19 AM	#9
valentine Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Justin Location: Baltimore, MD Watch: TT Diamond DJ Posts: 2,809	knowing rolex...its gorilla glue..but they'd come up with some 40 hour special process and call it something like glue-a-chrom.

17 April 2009, 09:28 AM	#11
watchmaker TechXpert Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Scott Location: London Posts: 2,242	It is glue. The exact type, I don't know. I have a little White bottle I get from Rolex. No markings. It's uncommon to need to replace one though.

17 April 2009, 09:32 AM	#12
Dalton TechXpert Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Dal Location: Seattle Watch: 168000 Posts: 1,614	It's called Seiko Glue.

17 April 2009, 10:37 AM	#16
LocoNBroko Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Watch: GMTIIcSUBUBFDSDDS Posts: 334	This may sound incredibly odd, but my watchmaker swears by "Super Glue" brand UV activating adhesive. I have chipped the cyclops on my 16610 twice and he has replaced them for me. He also has the "jigs" to properly align them when replacing. I have also been told that I better never chip the one on my GMT IIc because he cant get that replacement cyclops with AR. The last time I had one replaced was in 2005 and the watch has been worn almost every day since with no issues.

17 April 2009, 11:44 AM	#18
pdxrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US Posts: 123	I believe there is an actual gasket on sport models. White derlin material- http://www.watchmaterial.com/catalog/l_sap206cn.jpg

17 April 2009, 08:17 PM	#19
jmsrolls Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,185	Someone posted the name of the glue last year - an exotic name I cannot recall. Regardless, a couple of days of the crystal soaking in acetone allows easy removal. Fr. John†

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