Nos or currently brand new?? Need help!

[Watchlover4789]

Hi guys ! I guess I needed some opinion and suggestions

Would you get a 2017 brandnew Daytona 116500 or a 2020 brand new Daytona and the price difference is about 1k plus near 2k sgd.

[esdeezy]

2020

[poliwog]

2020 for me because it has the new style un-named card. I think a thousand dollars is ok for 3 years-newer. Which grey are you getting it from?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Watchlover4789

Hi guys ! I guess I needed some opinion and suggestions

Would you get a 2017 brandnew Daytona 116500 or a 2020 brand new Daytona and the price difference is about 1k plus near 2k sgd.

Cannot see what difference it would make exactly the same watch myself would buy the cheaper one.

[alex.cicollo]

I’d buy the newer watch, more warranty left and peace of mind.

[subtona]

2020. Better warranty and story.

How has the hottest watch come to be nos from 2017? Just sitting around waiting to be purchased?

[kans86]

I'll take the cheaper. Don't care about the new card and longer warranty. Have never used Rolex warranty so far.

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by subtona

2020. Better warranty and story.

How has the hottest watch come to be nos from 2017? Just sitting around waiting to be purchased?

Aren't most ss Daytonas sitting around NOS in the world ?

"The Safes and Greys " reference.

[HogwldFLTR]

I'd likely buy the newest one due to warranty coverage and the cost of repair on a Daytona movement if you are unlucky and there's a problem!!!

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

I'd likely buy the newest one due to warranty coverage and the cost of repair on a Daytona movement if you are unlucky and there's a problem!!!

That would be very unlucky on a 4130 .

[subtona]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Aren't most ss Daytonas sitting around NOS in the world ?

"The Safes and Greys " reference.

I feel like there is a lesson here?

Maybe if we could preserve and track the life and history of just one single unsold Daytona, we could break the cycle and find our way back to logic, sense and msrp

[padi56]

Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

I'd likely buy the newest one due to warranty coverage and the cost of repair on a Daytona movement if you are unlucky and there's a problem!!!

Well if bought from a grey and the warranty was not activated by a official Rolex AD there could be no Rolex warranty.But in the real world the Rolex warranty is seldom needed except to those today with the {CCTS} constant checking time syndrome, and fretting over a second or so and wanting there watches regulated for one or two seconds out of spec.

[1William]

I would save the money and go with the older watch.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by padi56

Cannot see what difference it would make exactly the same watch myself would buy the cheaper one.

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[travisb]

Originally Posted by subtona

2020. Better warranty and story.

How has the hottest watch come to be nos from 2017? Just sitting around waiting to be purchased?

x2
I've seen some pretty shady stuff like dealers putting stickers on a preowned watch and calling it BNIB.

[RaZCaL]

I would go for the cheaper of the two. Same watch, who cares about the warranty card.

[Mystro]

Same watch both under warranty long enough to know if there is a issue so go with the cheapest one.

[Ococ]

if you have a older 116500 with the stickers on it or a 2020 116500 without the stickers but it is the same 116500. i will choose the one with stickers.

[Goin2drt]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

Aren't most ss Daytonas sitting around NOS in the world ?

"The Safes and Greys " reference.

Yep.

OP I would spend the extra $1K as I am sure you are at like $27K (or whatever stupid gray price it is) so why not get the newer one at that point.

[m j b]

Gosh, that's about $2200 US. I'd go with the older (less expensive) one. Who in their right mind would spend over $2K for a plastic card that has no intrinsic value?

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Same watch both under warranty long enough to know if there is a issue so go with the cheapest one.

mechanical issues may not present while unused.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by subtona

mechanical issues may not present while unused.

Yes but my logic is for what he is saving, he could get the entire watch serviced if that would happen. Most likely nothing will happen and he can pocket the money. There is no risk by buying the older new watch.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Yes but my logic is for what he is saving, he could get the entire watch serviced if that would happen. Most likely nothing will happen and he can pocket the money. There is no risk by buying the older new watch.

ah! fair point.

[EEpro]

2020. I bet many NOS listings are probably gently used with stickers on.

[sgwatchguy]

2020.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by m j b

Gosh, that's about $2200 US. I'd go with the older (less expensive) one. Who in their right mind would spend over $2K for a plastic card that has no intrinsic value?

2k SGD, would be around 1.5k USD.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by sgwatchguy

2k SGD, would be around 1.5k USD.

There is nothing a new (or even used) Daytona could have wrong with it to incur a $1.5k warranty bill. The 2017 and 2020 model have identical odds of being perfect from the factory.
That said, the Daytona movement is well established and reliable movement to begin with. The OP has no risk in buying the new 2017 model and saving some money.

[Jack T]

If it’s NOS, why wouldn’t the warranty start at the time the OP completes purchase?

[onefishtaco]

There's a reason the newer one costs more, question is do you care about warranty and the watch being "newer"? Personally it wouldn't make a difference to me, so I'd take the 2017 as long as it's also in NOS condition. Good luck with your decision, do post a pic of what you need up with!

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Jack T

If it’s NOS, why wouldn’t the warranty start at the time the OP completes purchase?

No, the warranty follows the watch when it was sold from the AD to the reseller. The grey dealer then sells it to its new owner as new but with what ever its warranty card was initially activated at. Some can be new with a 2 month activated warranty card some can be new with a few years old new activated warranty card. Your name on the warranty card or someone else’s makes no difference in the warranty as it follows the actual watch when the AD activated the warranty at the initial time of purchase.
This is the case of the OP.
You can easily have 3yr old new old stock watches in large grey dealers inventory. Here is another interesting factor. Older new watches that are a few years in inventory may still have their plastic on where a 2 month old new will not. This is because dealers were starting to remove the stickers only a year ago. Watches with plastic stickers on them hold a higher value by many including grey dealers. In the end you can see it’s all trivial and a new watch is a new watch regardless.