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Old 24 January 2021, 08:18 AM   #1
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Loose end link

I posted this in another topic but wanted to make a separate one. I have a 114060 and the one end link is super loose bank and forth to the case. Thought it was a bad spring bar but just got one from Everest and same issue. Thoughts on this? The other end link is tight as can be to the case with no movement as it should be

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Old 24 January 2021, 08:19 AM   #2
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Old 24 January 2021, 09:32 AM   #3
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Update, flipped the bracelet around to make sure it wasn’t the case, it’s the end link. Is that something that can be replaced w/ service? Anyone ever encounter this

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Old 24 January 2021, 10:41 AM   #4
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You can have end links replaced during a service. I can't remember the cost but it's inexpensive.
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Old 24 January 2021, 10:45 AM   #5
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You can have end links replaced during a service. I can't remember the cost but it's inexpensive.
Cool, yeah I’m a bit bummed, seems like it was missed in description

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Old 24 January 2021, 12:11 PM   #6
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You can have end links replaced during a service. I can't remember the cost but it's inexpensive.
That's the first time I hear about end link replacement on 6 digit bracelets. Even just the SEL bracelets as a whole. On HEL, makes sense. It is easy. On SEL, I always assumed they just make you buy a new bracelet. Good to know.
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Old 24 January 2021, 12:18 PM   #7
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That's the first time I hear about end link replacement on 6 digit bracelets. Even just the SEL bracelets as a whole. On HEL, makes sense. It is easy. On SEL, I always assumed they just make you buy a new bracelet. Good to know.
Just checked, I had an end link replaced on a K serial 16710 a few months ago for $108 during a service.
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Old 25 January 2021, 12:33 AM   #8
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I actually didn’t think that end links could wear out on a 6 digit bracelet until now

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Old 25 January 2021, 04:49 AM   #9
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I posted this in another topic but wanted to make a separate one. I have a 114060 and the one end link is super loose bank and forth to the case. Thought it was a bad spring bar but just got one from Everest and same issue. Thoughts on this? The other end link is tight as can be to the case with no movement as it should be

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Possibly has the wrong spring bar. The Subs use a different spring bar from the other models, and has a much larger end pivot.
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Old 25 January 2021, 04:51 AM   #10
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Possibly has the wrong spring bar. The Subs use a different spring bar from the other models, and has a much larger end pivot.
That’s what I thought. But I swapped the tight side bar with the loose side and the loose link stays loose, I even swapped the links to the wrong side just to make sure it was the case. The issue follows the link not the case or spring bar

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Old 25 January 2021, 06:21 AM   #11
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could just be a slight variance in the tolerance for the part, personally I'd ignore it as it is so minor and only noticeable if you look for it.
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Old 25 January 2021, 06:23 AM   #12
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could just be a slight variance in the tolerance for the part, personally I'd ignore it as it is so minor and only noticeable if you look for it.
If it was just a slight intolerance I would ignore, no Rolex I have ever owned has had this type of wiggle and gap, pics don’t do it justice, this is my 4th 6 series sport and nothing even close to this in the past, dealer agrees it’s not right

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Old 25 January 2021, 06:38 AM   #13
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Try the OEM spring bar first.
You need the 2.0m thick and tip size 1.4 I believe, not sure about that.

If one of the sizes is wrong than you have a poor fit and possibly wiggle.
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Old 25 January 2021, 06:41 AM   #14
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Try the OEM spring bar first.
You need the 2.0m thick and tip size 1.4 I believe, not sure about that.

If one of the sizes is wrong than you have a poor fit and possibly wiggle.

Yep tried it, going back to dealer to check tomorrow, first issue ever for me, this thread needs a nice pic



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Old 25 January 2021, 06:49 AM   #15
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Larry is correct. The spring bar on the sub is very thick compared to other Rolex. Swing by the AD for the correct ones. $12 or so. The end link is machined from a steel billet. It would have to be missing some serious material to be the issue.
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Old 25 January 2021, 07:01 AM   #16
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Larry is correct. The spring bar on the sub is very thick compared to other Rolex. Swing by the AD for the correct ones. $12 or so. The end link is machined from a steel billet. It would have to be missing some serious material to be the issue.
Yep already tried an oem from the other side, that’s what’s so strange, be interesting to see what the watchmaker says

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Old 25 January 2021, 08:37 PM   #17
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Hope you get it sorted, it would bother me as well.
You might want to take some measurements on the watch and end links to see if there are some inconsistencies. With a cheap caliper that’s easy enough.

Otherwise there remains only one route and that’s the RSC .

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Old 26 January 2021, 12:37 AM   #18
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That’s what I thought. But I swapped the tight side bar with the loose side and the loose link stays loose, I even swapped the links to the wrong side just to make sure it was the case. The issue follows the link not the case or spring bar

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Does the loose link seem to have a bigger hole in it? I.e. if you take the same spring bar and put it into the two links is it a close slip fit in the good one and able to wiggle in the loose one? That's the only thing I can imagine explaining what you are describing.
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Old 26 January 2021, 12:41 AM   #19
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Does the loose link seem to have a bigger hole in it? I.e. if you take the same spring bar and put it into the two links is it a close slip fit in the good one and able to wiggle in the loose one? That's the only thing I can imagine explaining what you are describing.
I tried to see that myself, but I just couldn't tell. I was thinking maybe that part of the link had some wear if any too.

The seller (trusted here) that I got it from is taking care of me and it will be on it's way back to him today to check out and I should have it back by Wed. It's certainly not something you would notice if you were turning and burning watches but as soon as you went to size it you would, I don't blame them at all.

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Old 26 January 2021, 01:39 AM   #20
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If it was just a slight intolerance I would ignore, no Rolex I have ever owned has had this type of wiggle and gap, pics don’t do it justice, this is my 4th 6 series sport and nothing even close to this in the past, dealer agrees it’s not right

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can you see it from the front? like is the whole SEL loose or is it just visible from the back when you stretch it out like in the image?
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can you see it from the front? like is the whole SEL loose or is it just visible from the back when you stretch it out like in the image?
just from the back actually, but there is substantial wiggle & gap

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Old 27 January 2021, 02:46 AM   #22
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update, dealer said new bar fixed the issue, I'll have it back tomorrow, weird that the other stock bar I had didn't, maybe just needed a brand spanking new fresh one>

reporting back when I get in hand

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Old 28 January 2021, 03:34 AM   #23
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yep new spring bar fixed it! Weird that the one from the other side didn't do it? happy camper

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yep new spring bar fixed it! Weird that the one from the other side didn't do it? happy camper

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Good to hear, amazing really that a miniscule difference in a springbar can cause a wiggling end link.
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Try the OEM spring bar first.
You need the 2.0m thick and tip size 1.4 I believe, not sure about that.

If one of the sizes is wrong than you have a poor fit and possibly wiggle.
Where is the best place to buy the spring pins for a SD?
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