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HogwldFLTR · 17 February 2021, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VonSomething

Agree 100%. Black dials are harder to read and I have great vision. My champagne dial with golden hands is nearly impossible

The problem with the dark dials and the silver hands is when there isn't good lighting so that there is little reflection off of the hands causing them to black out and get lost in the dial.

Andad · 17 February 2021, 06:27 PM

I wear multifocals and can easily see the time on my Daytona.

If I take my glasses off I can’t see the time on ANY watch.

Macnavara · 17 February 2021, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan Luis

I will eventually own one again. As for chronographs. My Omega Speedmaster is one of the most legible watches I have ever owned, period.

I agree .....i can read my speedy with my eyes closed its so legible

petay993 · 17 February 2021, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Andad

I wear multifocals and can easily see the time on my Daytona.

If I take my glasses off I can’t see the time on ANY watch.

Same problem here

Similar watch as well!

The white dial 116520 can be super legible in most lighting conditions as the hands tend to show up dark against the background.

Throw in a dab of Chromalight and you are good to go, not exactly a "field watch" but easy to read at a glance.

Golfbone · 17 February 2021, 09:01 PM

I have 2 Daytonas and they are gorgeous but they are simply not very easy to see the time on under many lighting conditions and that is what it is. The Daytona has a very busy face and while it's gorgeous to look at and gives the sense of great complication, Gravitas and beauty to a beholder you can stare at it mesmerized and never actually see the time. A chronograph by it's nature doesn't have to be so cluttered looking. My IWC 3717 has a Chronograph, date, and day of week and it's the most legible watch to tell time with I have ever owned. It's just the way the face is designed. It's not as gorgeous as a Daytona but if I need to see the time quickly and be discreet about it under less than ideal lighting conditions it's the one I wear.

garyk · 17 February 2021, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by willywatch

No maybe i do not,i have only been writing about watches for 50 years LOL.
I am not saying it is a ugly watch,in fact quite the opposite.
But it is not a easy watch to read for a chronograph,and in my
eyes,that is not a good thing for any watch.Of course you will defend the
watch you own.But i know many people who have not bought the Daytona
because of this reason.

I appreciate your comments and realized you were not talking about it being ugly. My point, had I not read peoples comments about Daytona legibility when I first joined TRF, I would not have known there was a perceived legibility issue having not personally experienced any. When timing B roll segments for commercials I was producing, my Daytona was always way more accurate than my Speedy, Porsche Design or any of my other chronographs. I always checked these against the digital time codes as a sort of fun sport for me. The edit suite guys were always fascinated that I was timing with something I wore on my wrist. The Porsche Design was always their favorite looks wise.

garyk · 17 February 2021, 11:17 PM

There are other watches that are way busier than Daytona. My Breitling Navitimer is one of my most favorite watches but extremely busy dial!

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Juan Luis · 18 February 2021, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Can we agree legibility is related to the contrast of hands to dial?

Definitely!

Juan Luis · 18 February 2021, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Macnavara

I agree .....i can read my speedy with my eyes closed its so legible

Max 66 · 18 February 2021, 03:48 AM

Regarding the Daytona I am still quite confused, because it seems that it changes quite a lot the legibility in consideration of the light; in certain circumstances it seems that the lighter dials (white, silver, gold) are more readable, with different types of lights I prefer the contrast of the black dials.

I also agree that the Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional is one of the most legible chronographs, and indeed it is the contract between the silver hands and the full mat black dial that grant such good legibility.
Among the white dial chrono, I think it's easy to read the IWC Portugieser with blue hands & numbers (not the version with golden hands & numbers that is more elegant and classic but less legible).

HORNBLOWER · 18 February 2021, 04:12 AM

Probably the zenith TT black and Gold.

Cerachrom · 18 February 2021, 06:52 AM

This is why my only non-Rolex is my chronograph.

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Napoleon · 18 February 2021, 07:15 AM

Wow, that’s absolutely gorgeous. Very easy to read indeed.

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Originally Posted by swish77

None of the modern Daytonas are great for legibility. That's just not their strong point, especially in low light (still beautiful/cool, though).

I've owned both the white and black Daytona-Cs (twice each) and the WG Daytona on Oysterflex (twice). Of those three, the best for legibility for me, in order: WG, white and black.

I now own a black 16520 and white/silver 6263, both of which have better legibility than modern Daytonas for some reason. Something to do with the design of the hands and the sub-dials. What's surprising is that even though it's smaller, the old 6263 has the best legibility of any of them.

Chiboy · 18 February 2021, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerachrom

This is why my only non-Rolex is my chronograph.

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I really like that! But not a fan of the date.

Juan Luis · 18 February 2021, 12:22 PM

This capture from Hodinkee.

My grail. And easy to read!

EEpro · 18 February 2021, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiboy

I really like that! But not a fan of the date.

I hear that but zenith, AP, VC... everybody's doin' it

Frank McKay · 18 February 2021, 01:03 PM

All in the same ball park as far as legibility.

garyk · 18 February 2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerachrom

This is why my only non-Rolex is my chronograph.

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That is spectacular!!

garyk · 18 February 2021, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank McKay

All in the same ball park as far as legibility.

I agree. This is why it has bothered me when people on TRF say things about Daytona legibility!? Every chronograph I own with the exception of my Speedy and my Porsche Design all have equally busy dials. That’s the nature of Chronographs but years ago they were an essential tool for me in my advertising and commercial production agency.

challer · 18 February 2021, 08:57 PM

For current models, all white or panda, says my human factors team. For legibility. As stated earlier, those are not particularly legible

HogwldFLTR · 18 February 2021, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by garyk

Been serviced twice since new but I wouldn’t let them touch the case or bracelet.

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Originally Posted by 77T

I like your PD, but like red hands better.

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Originally Posted by Golfbone

I have 2 Daytonas and they are gorgeous but they are simply not very easy to see the time on under many lighting conditions and that is what it is. The Daytona has a very busy face and while it's gorgeous to look at and gives the sense of great complication, Gravitas and beauty to a beholder you can stare at it mesmerized and never actually see the time. A chronograph by it's nature doesn't have to be so cluttered looking. My IWC 3717 has a Chronograph, date, and day of week and it's the most legible watch to tell time with I have ever owned. It's just the way the face is designed. It's not as gorgeous as a Daytona but if I need to see the time quickly and be discreet about it under less than ideal lighting conditions it's the one I wear.

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Originally Posted by garyk

There are other watches that are way busier than Daytona. My Breitling Navitimer is one of my most favorite watches but extremely busy dial!

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Originally Posted by Cerachrom

This is why my only non-Rolex is my chronograph.

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All interesting watches but not really furthering the choice of which is the most legible Daytona as none qualify! There are plenty of chronos to be had but only a small fraction are Daytonas!!!

ngypheap · 18 February 2021, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by garyk

I agree. This is why it has bothered me when people on TRF say things about Daytona legibility!? Every chronograph I own with the exception of my Speedy and my Porsche Design all have equally busy dials. That’s the nature of Chronographs but years ago they were an essential tool for me in my advertising and commercial production agency.

I like Daytona, i’ve should add it couples year ago to my collection...
I don’t have any issue reading the time, but the only problem when I don’t have my sunglasses.!

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cwilson13 · 18 February 2021, 11:18 PM

I like chronographs and own several varieties at any one time.

All are somewhat challenging to read. Busy dials.

But, overtime you gain the ability to quick glance and know what’s what.

The Speedy is probably easiest followed by the AP and then the Daytona.

What hurts the Daytona a bit is its smaller size and depending on the specific reference, contrast issues.

77T · 18 February 2021, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

All interesting watches but not really furthering the choice of which is the most legible Daytona as none qualify! There are plenty of chronos to be had but only a small fraction are Daytonas!!!

I believe all are equally illegible “at-a-glance” unless you apply a touch of red paint.

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Easy E · 19 February 2021, 12:01 AM

I acknowledge that you can get a great, highly legible shot of a Daytona. However, the following pictures represent my opinion of the timepiece. If ound in many lighting conditions the hands just evaporated. As a piece of man jewelry its great, as a timepiece... not so much (to me).

EEpro · 19 February 2021, 01:01 AM

All of my light colored dial watches suffer from the hand glare phenomenon. Not unique to the 116500. In practical use, I've never had an issue reading my Daytona.

OP41 turquoise has the same issue with white hands on light dial disappearing. As does silver dialed Lange.

DonRickles · 19 February 2021, 01:03 AM

The one you can actually get your hands on?

jrs146 · 19 February 2021, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I believe all are equally illegible “at-a-glance” unless you apply a touch of red paint.

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Lol! Racing hands!

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Andrews148 · 19 February 2021, 01:17 AM

Speedmaster, innit.😉

77T · 19 February 2021, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jrs146

Lol! Racing hands!

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Big Fat Racing Hands.
For the life of me I don’t know why Rolex doesn’t start a “hi-vis hands” option inside any product line for folks who need glasses to read their watch.

OP mentioned that in post 1

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17 February 2021, 06:27 PM	#62
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	I wear multifocals and can easily see the time on my Daytona. If I take my glasses off I can’t see the time on ANY watch. Attached Images __________________ E

17 February 2021, 09:01 PM	#65
Golfbone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 700	I have 2 Daytonas and they are gorgeous but they are simply not very easy to see the time on under many lighting conditions and that is what it is. The Daytona has a very busy face and while it's gorgeous to look at and gives the sense of great complication, Gravitas and beauty to a beholder you can stare at it mesmerized and never actually see the time. A chronograph by it's nature doesn't have to be so cluttered looking. My IWC 3717 has a Chronograph, date, and day of week and it's the most legible watch to tell time with I have ever owned. It's just the way the face is designed. It's not as gorgeous as a Daytona but if I need to see the time quickly and be discreet about it under less than ideal lighting conditions it's the one I wear. Attached Images

17 February 2021, 11:17 PM	#67
garyk 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Gary Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 11,752	There are other watches that are way busier than Daytona. My Breitling Navitimer is one of my most favorite watches but extremely busy dial! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________

19 February 2021, 12:01 AM	#85
Easy E 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 5,080	I acknowledge that you can get a great, highly legible shot of a Daytona. However, the following pictures represent my opinion of the timepiece. If ound in many lighting conditions the hands just evaporated. As a piece of man jewelry its great, as a timepiece... not so much (to me). Attached Images

19 February 2021, 01:01 AM	#86
EEpro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Brad Location: Purdue Watch: Daytona Posts: 9,243	All of my light colored dial watches suffer from the hand glare phenomenon. Not unique to the 116500. In practical use, I've never had an issue reading my Daytona. OP41 turquoise has the same issue with white hands on light dial disappearing. As does silver dialed Lange. __________________ ♛ ✠ Ω 2FA Active

18 February 2021, 03:48 AM	#70
Max 66 Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Real Name: Max66 Location: On Earth Posts: 302	Regarding the Daytona I am still quite confused, because it seems that it changes quite a lot the legibility in consideration of the light; in certain circumstances it seems that the lighter dials (white, silver, gold) are more readable, with different types of lights I prefer the contrast of the black dials. I also agree that the Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Professional is one of the most legible chronographs, and indeed it is the contract between the silver hands and the full mat black dial that grant such good legibility. Among the white dial chrono, I think it's easy to read the IWC Portugieser with blue hands & numbers (not the version with golden hands & numbers that is more elegant and classic but less legible).

18 February 2021, 04:12 AM	#71
HORNBLOWER "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Ben Location: Ireland Watch: 1 OR 2 Posts: 2,640	Probably the zenith TT black and Gold.

18 February 2021, 06:52 AM	#72
Cerachrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Chris Location: Pacific NW Watch: Sky Dweller Blue Posts: 97	This is why my only non-Rolex is my chronograph. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 February 2021, 12:22 PM	#75
Juan Luis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Juan Luis Location: Dominican Rep. Watch: Undecided Posts: 1,368	This capture from Hodinkee. My grail. And easy to read!

18 February 2021, 01:03 PM	#77
Frank McKay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,650	All in the same ball park as far as legibility.

18 February 2021, 08:57 PM	#80
challer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: DC Posts: 679	For current models, all white or panda, says my human factors team. For legibility. As stated earlier, those are not particularly legible

18 February 2021, 11:18 PM	#83
cwilson13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,500	I like chronographs and own several varieties at any one time. All are somewhat challenging to read. Busy dials. But, overtime you gain the ability to quick glance and know what’s what. The Speedy is probably easiest followed by the AP and then the Daytona. What hurts the Daytona a bit is its smaller size and depending on the specific reference, contrast issues.

19 February 2021, 01:03 AM	#87
DonRickles Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Don Location: Vegas Nite Club Watch: Your mouth Posts: 2,315	The one you can actually get your hands on?

19 February 2021, 01:17 AM	#89
Andrews148 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Steve Andrews Location: Jersey Posts: 164	Speedmaster, innit.😉

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