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Sami86 · 1 March 2021, 07:42 PM

Hello All Watch Enthusiasts,

I am glad to join this forum and I am already enjoying to read about the different topics related to Rolex watches.

I am a proud owner of Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch - pic attached. I recently acquired a Rolex Hulk 2017 (pics attached), it is an incredible watch that I enjoy wearing almost daily, I just can't stop looking at the amazing 3135 movement as well. However, I noticed that my date cyclops is not well centered, and this is starting to disturb me a bit (I don't get disturbed by scratches etc. although I already got a bad on on the clasp), but I would really want to seek your advice on how best to resolve this. Can the Rolex AD fix it without servicing?

Cheers,

Sami

1William · 1 March 2021, 10:27 PM

Great watches. An easy fix. Take it to your AD or contact Rolex and send it in while it is still under warranty.

Sami86 · 1 March 2021, 10:45 PM

Thanks William. I am travelling mid March and I will take it to Rolex AD. Unfortunately where I live in Tanzania, there is no AD available.

Why do you think the uncentering of the cyclops happened in the first place? Is this a common issue? I was thinking perhaps previous owner changed the crystal and was badly misplaced?

Cheers,

Sami

Harry-57 · 1 March 2021, 11:51 PM

It can be fixed under warranty.

Pity nobody noticed.

Your AD will advise.

pamountainbiker · 2 March 2021, 02:48 AM

I can't tell from the image, but perhaps the dial is not centered by just a small amount. fixing that might center the cyclops. I have a dial that when the watch was manufactured was not exactly centered under the crown of the rehaut. It gives the very very slight impression that the cyclops is misaligned. Whereby, if the dial were rotated just that little bit, the cyclops would correctly center / line up.

Daveclock · 2 March 2021, 03:22 AM

I just can't stop looking at the amazing 3135 movement as well.??

Sorry am I missing something or are you taking the back off the watch??
As for the cylops that would also affect my level of OCD

roznalos · 2 March 2021, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveclock

I just can't stop looking at the amazing 3135 movement as well.??

Sorry am I missing something or are you taking the back off the watch??
As for the cylops that would also affect my level of OCD

I’m wondering about that too.

Daveclock · 2 March 2021, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roznalos

I’m wondering about that too.

Phew!! Now I don't feel so lonely!

ROLEX* · 2 March 2021, 03:33 AM

Is the hulk verified to be the authentic one?
Entire watch looks very off to my eyes

SN13 · 2 March 2021, 03:34 AM

I'm no expert.... but the SEL's look a little soft.

If you have taken the back of the watch off, give us a photo showing the balance wheel.

DoctorsOrders · 2 March 2021, 03:37 AM

Simple answer is take it to an AD before your 5 year warranty is up but bigger question...how are you looking at the movement though??? Kind of hard to do that through a solid case back isn't it?

SN13 · 2 March 2021, 03:46 AM

The only way we can give you more advice, is to see the movement.... IF you've opened it up yourself OR if you have a Display back (

)

Also, IF your Rehaut has a "3" in the serial number....

Rolex uses Flat top 3's.... Just check yourself.

dontbeshort · 2 March 2021, 03:49 AM

Probably need a sharper pic but that crown looks like it’s only got 4 prongs.

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Cambo · 2 March 2021, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontbeshort

Probably need a sharper pic but that crown looks like it’s only got 4 prongs.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sure does...looks off

Rori · 2 March 2021, 04:34 AM

It’s not the dial nor the crystal that need to be allowed it’s the placement of the cyclops that is misplaced “tilted counterclockwise.
Crystal need to be replaced in my opinion.

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afmars · 2 March 2021, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rori

It’s not the dial nor the crystal that need to be allowed it’s the placement of the cyclops that is misplaced “tilted counterclockwise.
Crystal need to be replaced in my opinion.

This is correct.

afmars · 2 March 2021, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontbeshort

Probably need a sharper pic but that crown looks like it’s only got 4 prongs.

Probably the border of the hour hand is covering the fifth prong and blending in with the background.

jerryguo · 2 March 2021, 04:51 AM

Geez I have never seen such bad misalignment before, my guess is that the crystal was reassembled at some point and it was a poor job.

clickingdru · 2 March 2021, 05:45 AM

I think you should contact Rolex or meet with your AD

Sami86 · 2 March 2021, 06:00 AM

Hi All,

Thanks for all your answers! I can imagine how that sounded, I don't actually look at the internal movement. I just meant I find my eyes gazing at the second hand smooth movement dial - considerably more than my Speedmaster, perhaps because it is still fairly new or because the moonwatch moving hand is small.

I am adding some other pictures including the internal movement. Please feel free to comment if you think anything is looking off. I will be relieved only when I verify it at Rolex AD (bought from reputable watchmaker who is well trusted), but it looks original to me can't find anything off other than the cyclops and I even checked its weight 153 grams which matched with friend's hulk (154 grams).

Cheers,

Sami

Sami86 · 2 March 2021, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SN13

The only way we can give you more advice, is to see the movement.... IF you've opened it up yourself OR if you have a Display back (

)

Also, IF your Rehaut has a "3" in the serial number....

Rolex uses Flat top 3's.... Just check yourself.

Thank you for the tip! Got a 3 in serial number - pic attached.

Sami86 · 16 March 2021, 02:38 AM

Hello Lads,

I thought I would have gotten some replies by now! Just an update - took it to Rolex AD and they indeed changed the crystal. My OCD levels are now in check. Thanks all for your advice. New pic attached.

Cheers,

Sami

jon420 · 16 March 2021, 02:43 AM

Had the exact same issue on my 2014 hulk - I ended up selling it because of how much the cyclops bothered me.

Harry-57 · 16 March 2021, 02:59 AM

Much better. Glad you got it sorted out.

Geckobros · 16 March 2021, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sami86

Hello Lads,

I thought I would have gotten some replies by now! Just an update - took it to Rolex AD and they indeed changed the crystal. My OCD levels are now in check. Thanks all for your advice. New pic attached.

Cheers,

Sami

Easy fix and your mind is at ease as to its authenticity.

SN13 · 16 March 2021, 03:40 AM

Serial Number looks good. Movement looks good.

Gratz man. Looks better now for sure!

ofelas · 16 March 2021, 05:16 AM

Great to hear Sami, enjoy the watch in good health.

As far as not getting more replies, the 3 naysayers below are too busy getting their eyes re-timed to COSC specs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLEX*

Is the hulk verified to be the authentic one?
Entire watch looks very off to my eyes

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontbeshort

Probably need a sharper pic but that crown looks like it’s only got 4 prongs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cambo

Sure does...looks off

saxo3 · 16 March 2021, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sami86

Hello Lads,

I thought I would have gotten some replies by now! Just an update - took it to Rolex AD and they indeed changed the crystal. My OCD levels are now in check. Thanks all for your advice. New pic attached.

Cheers,

Sami

Nice that the crystal was changed.
Is the dust close to 53 s and 05 s on the dial or the crystal?

Sami86 · 16 March 2021, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon420

Had the exact same issue on my 2014 hulk - I ended up selling it because of how much the cyclops bothered me.

Should have kept it! I reckon its secondary market almost doubled since then! Honestly, I always thought wearing Rolex is a bit pretentious, and used to prefer my Omegas. However, I can see now that 99% of people don't even notice it or they just keep quiet about it..

Sami86 · 16 March 2021, 06:52 PM

It is on the dial from outside :)

1 March 2021, 07:42 PM	#1
Sami86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Tanzania Watch: Sub 116610 LV Posts: 13	Rolex Submariner 116610 LV (Hulk) Date Cyclops Hello All Watch Enthusiasts, I am glad to join this forum and I am already enjoying to read about the different topics related to Rolex watches. I am a proud owner of Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch - pic attached. I recently acquired a Rolex Hulk 2017 (pics attached), it is an incredible watch that I enjoy wearing almost daily, I just can't stop looking at the amazing 3135 movement as well. However, I noticed that my date cyclops is not well centered, and this is starting to disturb me a bit (I don't get disturbed by scratches etc. although I already got a bad on on the clasp), but I would really want to seek your advice on how best to resolve this. Can the Rolex AD fix it without servicing? Cheers, Sami Attached Images

2 March 2021, 03:33 AM	#9
ROLEX* "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: ROLEXROLEXRO Location: ROLEXROLEXROLE Watch: ROLEXROLEXROLEX Posts: 761	Is the hulk verified to be the authentic one? Entire watch looks very off to my eyes __________________ To each their own and your mileage may vary. "In the time of our life, live—so that in that wondrous time you shall not add to the misery and sorrow of the world, but shall smile to the infinite delight and mystery of it." — William Saroyan

2 March 2021, 03:34 AM	#10
SN13 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 1,124	I'm no expert.... but the SEL's look a little soft. If you have taken the back of the watch off, give us a photo showing the balance wheel. __________________ IG@Construction_Time --- 1986 DD 18038 --- 1992 YM 16628 --- 2015 116600 SD4K --- SBDX001 MM300 --- 2009 Omega Ploprof White --- 2010 Omega LE LMPO

2 March 2021, 03:46 AM	#12
SN13 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 1,124	The only way we can give you more advice, is to see the movement.... IF you've opened it up yourself OR if you have a Display back () Also, IF your Rehaut has a "3" in the serial number.... Rolex uses Flat top 3's.... Just check yourself. __________________ IG@Construction_Time --- 1986 DD 18038 --- 1992 YM 16628 --- 2015 116600 SD4K --- SBDX001 MM300 --- 2009 Omega Ploprof White --- 2010 Omega LE LMPO

2 March 2021, 04:34 AM	#15
Rori "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Middle East Watch: Rolex / Tudor Posts: 3,592	It’s not the dial nor the crystal that need to be allowed it’s the placement of the cyclops that is misplaced “tilted counterclockwise. Crystal need to be replaced in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Good watches are made to tell time but some brands are obsessed to tell it in the most beautiful way possible.

1 March 2021, 10:27 PM	#2
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,787	Great watches. An easy fix. Take it to your AD or contact Rolex and send it in while it is still under warranty.

1 March 2021, 10:45 PM	#3
Sami86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Tanzania Watch: Sub 116610 LV Posts: 13	Thanks William. I am travelling mid March and I will take it to Rolex AD. Unfortunately where I live in Tanzania, there is no AD available. Why do you think the uncentering of the cyclops happened in the first place? Is this a common issue? I was thinking perhaps previous owner changed the crystal and was badly misplaced? Cheers, Sami

1 March 2021, 11:51 PM	#4
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,681	It can be fixed under warranty. Pity nobody noticed. Your AD will advise.

2 March 2021, 02:48 AM	#5
pamountainbiker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 31	I can't tell from the image, but perhaps the dial is not centered by just a small amount. fixing that might center the cyclops. I have a dial that when the watch was manufactured was not exactly centered under the crown of the rehaut. It gives the very very slight impression that the cyclops is misaligned. Whereby, if the dial were rotated just that little bit, the cyclops would correctly center / line up.

2 March 2021, 03:22 AM	#6
Daveclock "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Dave Location: UK Watch: ing and waiting! Posts: 864	I just can't stop looking at the amazing 3135 movement as well.?? Sorry am I missing something or are you taking the back off the watch?? As for the cylops that would also affect my level of OCD

2 March 2021, 03:37 AM	#11
DoctorsOrders "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: TN Watch: BLNR Posts: 876	Simple answer is take it to an AD before your 5 year warranty is up but bigger question...how are you looking at the movement though??? Kind of hard to do that through a solid case back isn't it?

2 March 2021, 03:49 AM	#13
dontbeshort "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Real Name: Henri Location: @ the golf club Watch: LN LV BLRO BLNR Posts: 274	Probably need a sharper pic but that crown looks like it’s only got 4 prongs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 March 2021, 04:51 AM	#18
jerryguo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bay Area Watch: Rolex, PP, Lange Posts: 1,024	Geez I have never seen such bad misalignment before, my guess is that the crystal was reassembled at some point and it was a poor job.

2 March 2021, 05:45 AM	#19
clickingdru Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 169	I think you should contact Rolex or meet with your AD

2 March 2021, 06:00 AM	#20
Sami86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Tanzania Watch: Sub 116610 LV Posts: 13	Hi All, Thanks for all your answers! I can imagine how that sounded, I don't actually look at the internal movement. I just meant I find my eyes gazing at the second hand smooth movement dial - considerably more than my Speedmaster, perhaps because it is still fairly new or because the moonwatch moving hand is small. I am adding some other pictures including the internal movement. Please feel free to comment if you think anything is looking off. I will be relieved only when I verify it at Rolex AD (bought from reputable watchmaker who is well trusted), but it looks original to me can't find anything off other than the cyclops and I even checked its weight 153 grams which matched with friend's hulk (154 grams). Cheers, Sami Attached Images

16 March 2021, 02:38 AM	#22
Sami86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Tanzania Watch: Sub 116610 LV Posts: 13	Hello Lads, I thought I would have gotten some replies by now! Just an update - took it to Rolex AD and they indeed changed the crystal. My OCD levels are now in check. Thanks all for your advice. New pic attached. Cheers, Sami Attached Images

16 March 2021, 02:43 AM	#23
jon420 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: uk Posts: 23	Had the exact same issue on my 2014 hulk - I ended up selling it because of how much the cyclops bothered me.

16 March 2021, 02:59 AM	#24
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,681	Much better. Glad you got it sorted out.

16 March 2021, 03:40 AM	#26
SN13 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 1,124	Serial Number looks good. Movement looks good. Gratz man. Looks better now for sure! __________________ IG@Construction_Time --- 1986 DD 18038 --- 1992 YM 16628 --- 2015 116600 SD4K --- SBDX001 MM300 --- 2009 Omega Ploprof White --- 2010 Omega LE LMPO

16 March 2021, 06:52 PM	#30
Sami86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Tanzania Watch: Sub 116610 LV Posts: 13	It is on the dial from outside :)

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