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Old 19 July 2021, 11:29 PM   #1
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Winding a rolex

How many times do you wind a submariner and sea dweller(turns)? Can you over-wind? How often do you wind yours(daily/every other day)? I am looking at the booklet and the instructions seem vague.
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Old 19 July 2021, 11:43 PM   #2
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Your watch is Automatic so it winds whilst you wear it.

On a winder it would require 650 Turns per day either CW or CCW or a mixture of the two.

You can not overwind your watch .. It has a mechanism to stop overwinding.

I hardly ever wind my watch (Submariner-Date) I only wind it if I decide not to wear it for a few days and it stops.

40 turns of the crown usually is enough for ne to have a fully wound watch.
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Old 19 July 2021, 11:43 PM   #3
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As far as I know, you only wind the watch to get it started if it has stopped. I’m not certain but I don’t think you can overwind any modern Rolex. Maybe someone else on here can confirm this?
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Old 19 July 2021, 11:54 PM   #4
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Wind aboht 40x is correct and you can never over wind a sub. They are “dummy proof” from what I’ve gathered
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Old 20 July 2021, 12:55 AM   #5
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If I'm wearing mine constantly I never ever have to wind it.
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Old 20 July 2021, 01:00 AM   #6
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As far as I know, you only wind the watch to get it started if it has stopped. I’m not certain but I don’t think you can overwind any modern Rolex. Maybe someone else on here can confirm this?
You're basically correct.
Except it's entirely dependent upon how much one moves their wrist. Not enough movement will result in an unwound watch and it will prematurely stop if set aside for a short period.
If one is moving enough it will be fully wound automatically and it is not possible to overwind an automatic watch per se.
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Old 20 July 2021, 01:34 AM   #7
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40 turns. I wind when it needed.
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Old 20 July 2021, 03:44 AM   #8
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I wind mine once or twice a week. I find it keeps marginally better time when fully topped off. That being said I never wound it the first six months or so just to see what happened and it never stopped.
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Old 20 July 2021, 05:00 AM   #9
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40 'twists' always does it.
Cannot be over-wound, as mentioned above. Rolex have a clutch that slips when fully wound, so barrel spring breakage is avoided.
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Old 20 July 2021, 07:26 AM   #10
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I have a vintage 1603 but typically if my watch is averaging a little fast, I'll give it a wind to top up the mainspring and let it sit crown up overnight. If the watch has stopped, I'll wind it about 25 times and then just set the time. Generally I move enough in a day that I won't need to wind it daily.
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Old 20 July 2021, 07:40 AM   #11
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What if you don’t wind it and put it on
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Old 20 July 2021, 07:49 AM   #12
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What if you don’t wind it and put it on
With vigorous wear it will fully wind, but 20 turns or so is preferable for maximum accuracy. Any watch struggles when it is fully run down to keep accurate time.
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Old 20 July 2021, 02:55 PM   #13
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but can’t you feel the winding mechanism slipping to prevent overwinding? After I wind my watch (about 40ish turns) after it sits for a couple days, at a certain point I can feel (at the tip of my fingers) the winding slipping ever so slightly. I read somewhere it is the decoupling mechanism to prevent over winding.

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Old 20 July 2021, 05:00 PM   #14
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but can’t you feel the winding mechanism slipping to prevent overwinding? After I wind my watch (about 40ish turns) after it sits for a couple days, at a certain point I can feel (at the tip of my fingers) the winding slipping ever so slightly. I read somewhere it is the decoupling mechanism to prevent over winding.

Fact check me please. Can’t find old thread now.
Yes, you're about right
There is a "kind of" decoupling happening but what you are mostly feeling is a combination of a kind of decoupling and re-coupling occurring in quick succession.
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Old 20 July 2021, 05:07 PM   #15
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What if you don’t wind it and put it on
As long as one is not in a comatose state, the watch will wind up all by itself.
How much it will wind is entirely dependent upon the amount of movement it gets within a given period.

For me personally on a relatively casual day, it works out to be a 6:1 ratio.
8 hours of wear from a dead stop equates to 48 hours of power reserve(fully wound), or 1 hour of wear from a dead stop equates to 6 hours of power reserve.
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Old 20 July 2021, 05:19 PM   #16
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Sorta off-topic. When I finish unscrewing the crown (counterclockwise), I have to turn clockwise a little bit before it pops out into the winding position. Is that normal?
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Old 20 July 2021, 05:22 PM   #17
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Yes, you're about right
There is a "kind of" decoupling happening but what you are mostly feeling is a combination of a kind of decoupling and re-coupling occurring in quick succession.
Thanks, I feel that for sure but it’s so slight I have to pay attention.

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Sorta off-topic. When I finish unscrewing the crown (counterclockwise), I have to turn clockwise a little bit before it pops out into the winding position. Is that normal?
Yes, both mine do the same thing.
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Old 20 July 2021, 05:28 PM   #18
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You can't over wind any automatic watch. The mainspring is designed to prevent this. I believe it's also called a slipping clutch mechanism. I usually wind them with 20-25 turns and then put it on the wrist.

I have Automatic Seiko's that don't have a manual winding mechanism, these I just gently shake back/forth 10 times before putting it on and the wrist movement throughout the day is more than enough to keep them running overnight. So with that in mind, just a 5-10 winds should be more than enough to keep it running if you're going to wear it throughout the day.
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Old 20 July 2021, 06:23 PM   #19
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Winding a rolex

Recently, I did some systematic measurements for 4 watches, equipped with 32xx and 31xx movements. The results are shown and explained here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=808
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Old 20 July 2021, 08:27 PM   #20
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Recently, I did some systematic measurements for 4 watches, equipped with 32xx and 31xx movements. The results are shown and explained here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...&postcount=808
Great info.
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