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Old 26 September 2021, 08:11 AM   #121
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Do you boycott women when one turns you down too?

Boo hoo, not getting sympathy from me for telling a story that’s not even yours.


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I’ve boycotted women for three decades..
Boo hoo, I don’t need your sympathy.
It’s my mates story, so it is mine.
And I’ve got some arrogant client service from Rolex AD’s in the last years. We are not alone with these experiences.


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Old 26 September 2021, 08:12 AM   #122
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So many wonderful watches out there, Girard Perragaux, Glasshutte Original, etc. Why not take a hiatus from Rokex and explore other avenues until the current situation calms down, if it ever does.

No need to burn your bridges or encourage others to follow. Leave the door open.


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Old 26 September 2021, 08:12 AM   #123
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I’ve boycotted women for three decades..
Boo hoo, I don’t need your sympathy.
It’s my mates story, so it is mine.
And I’ve got some arrogant client service from Rolex AD’s in the last years. We are not alone with these experiences.


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Get a new ad or leave the game/forum IMO
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Old 26 September 2021, 08:13 AM   #124
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Elvis is still buying Cadi’s? Incredible. Who knew?


Elvis lives, don’t you know?


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Old 26 September 2021, 08:13 AM   #125
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Easy to boycott them as they don’t have anything to offer anyway


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Old 26 September 2021, 08:15 AM   #126
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Hell no, nothing wears like a Rolex period. I like the watches and am not one to settle.

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Old 26 September 2021, 08:15 AM   #127
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I’ve bought 3 in 4 months

Beware! Rolex is monitoring you and they will torment your AD, because they’ve sold you 3. It is against the rules: only 2/year /customer. They will come after you…


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Old 26 September 2021, 08:17 AM   #128
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The hilarious thing is this. Who posts these things? Greys? Omega middle management? Lol

This is a sad joke. Look at us. Whining here and Rolex is laughing at us.
People don’t have the power anymore. No matter what we do. Rolex just don’t care.


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Old 26 September 2021, 08:44 AM   #129
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There is no 2 watch per customer rule. That doesn’t exist. The AD simply doesn’t trust your friends intentions anymore. Why should they, he’s buying the same watches multiple times. Also, when you “give watches to friends” they sell them.
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Old 26 September 2021, 08:51 AM   #130
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Your argument is unconvincing. I will buy whatever I please and can afford.
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Old 26 September 2021, 09:01 AM   #131
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Afraid I can't share my shit AD experiences because I haven't had any. They've all been good.

I applaud the boycott. Anybody so obviously offended would be a fool to throw more money in that direction. But I would recommend trying a few more ADs. "Rolex policy" (whatever it is and assuming it actually exists) can vary quite a bit depending on which AD is quoting it. I expect it also varies by customer for a given AD. Nevertheless, one less person queuing may not be much but it's a start for those of who will remain.

Congratulations on that Omega. Not a favourite of mine but impressive none the less. You like it, and that's all that matters. I wish you big fun with it and your future collecting.
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Old 26 September 2021, 09:20 AM   #132
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The hilarious thing is this. Who posts these things? Greys? Omega middle management? Lol

…they even included an Oreo-looking Omega …
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Old 26 September 2021, 09:23 AM   #133
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I’ve boycotted women for three decades..
Boo hoo, I don’t need your sympathy.
It’s my mates story, so it is mine.
And I’ve got some arrogant client service from Rolex AD’s in the last years. We are not alone with these experiences.


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You boycotted women for 3 decades? Why? Are you 90 years old? Or just married?
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Old 26 September 2021, 09:25 AM   #134
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I read it and it seems like your friend got caught as a "possible" flipper, whether he was giving the watches away or taking any money for them or not.

But what do I know?? I have been wrong on a lot of things in my life, this could easily be one of them.



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Old 26 September 2021, 09:32 AM   #135
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boycott?

but you're keeping the d-blue?

and when you flipped your SkyD...did you sell it at MSRP or did you profit from selling at higher price?

a bit hypocritical IMHO

but hey if you want to boycott Rolex and buy other brands, your money, your prerogative. knock yourself out :)
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Old 26 September 2021, 09:41 AM   #136
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You don't boycott Rolex,
Rolex boycotts you.
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Old 26 September 2021, 10:17 AM   #137
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I don't see this as Rolex's fault. They, along with some other manufacturers like Patek and AP, can't keep up with the overwhelming demand for sports watches since the demand for such pieces ballooned over the past couple of years. It is not easy ramping up production with specialised machine, human resources and site limitations, at will. Even if Rolex manages to increase production by 20%, it will still not be enough to meet the crazy demand. It is really up to their AD how they allocate watches to their customers.
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Old 26 September 2021, 10:43 AM   #138
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So true. This thread and ”boycot” of ours is a sad joke.
It doesn’t matter anymore what we, the customers, do. Companies are ruling the people. We are just puppets.
There were the days when people were the power.
In Companies We Trust And Blindly Obey…


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What companies are ruling what people? Cite your sources. In what way are we puppets? Cite your examples. In what days did people have the power over these mysterious companies and if Rolex is one of them why did we not use our power to get watches for free?

Do you read on this forum or just initiate boycotts? The vast majority of posts on this forum for a few years running have been about the lack of availability and expressing anger at flippers who buy just to sell. Your friend by your own description is such a person. In the five or so years I’ve been on this forum your friend’s story is the only one I can recall where someone was cut off by a dealer for excessive purchasing. This is called holding the exception up as the rule.

I feel no outrage at your friend’s story, I feel relief. I see the behavior of the AD specifically and Rolex generally as beneficial to normal enthusiasts to whom a Rolex purchase is a special occasion. Your friend is feeding the secondary market with his frequent purchases. Rolex, to whatever extent they can, is trying to limit this behavior. I support them for that. It doesn’t make me less loyal to the brand, if anything it makes me more loyal.

Rolex isn’t exerting any power over me, if they truly had power over anyone they would use it to charge more for their watches. I am not a puppet of Rolex, I buy when I can and when I’m inspired to. And when I am inspired to I have a mutually respectful relationship with my AD and they are very helpful when I make a request.

Your generalizations are meaningless and unsupportable. I have no sympathy for your friend or your cause. In no other business can we demand the product we want whenever we want it. Have you tried buying a car during the pandemic? Luxury goods are not a human right. There is no controversy here, simply one entitled bad faith actor whose luck ran out.
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Old 26 September 2021, 10:52 AM   #139
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Nice watch - congrats!

That other stuff...er...good luck with that.
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Old 26 September 2021, 11:01 AM   #140
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I flipped my Sky-D, I will keep only my D Blue—but not because of the brand, but because of the story of Cameron’s diving.
I bought a new Omega
A flipper ranter >>

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Old 26 September 2021, 11:06 AM   #141
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Very attractive Omega. Enjoy it. Rolex buyers are forced to migrate to other brands.
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Old 26 September 2021, 11:23 AM   #142
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My long time friend in Europe has been buying like over twenty or so (mainly Rolexes) from one AD over the years. We are talking some serious money: tens of thousands of USD/EUR.
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He has been also giving watches as presents to people close to him and has helped friends to get their dream watch, list price.
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Old 26 September 2021, 11:48 AM   #143
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Take this Rolex! Just saved $15k.


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Old 26 September 2021, 11:50 AM   #144
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That Omega has a neat design but is way too thick for me.

Good luck with your boycott.
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Old 26 September 2021, 11:53 AM   #145
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I love how is has “ORIGINAL” on the dial… it’s a nice and ironic touch.
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Old 26 September 2021, 11:59 AM   #146
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Please stop calling Rolex a non-profit company. Stop!! Someone created that false story because they didn't know what they were talking about and now everyone believes it. They are very much a for profit company, just like every other company on the planet.

Rolex gives a percentage of its profits to the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation. THAT is the charitable entity. The Hans Wilsdorf Foundation is the sole owner of Rolex, but Rolex is absolutely a for profit company and only a percentage of its profits are going back to the foundation. They are paying employees, investing in R&D and capital improvements, investing with their pension fund, and doing everything else that for profit companies do.

It's the exact same as every other big company that also has a charitable foundation they run with profits. General Mills, 3M, Ford, Cargill, thousands of large companies all around the world do the exact same thing, but they are not "non-profit" companies themselves. It's the foundation that does the charitable work. The company makes money and then contributes some of that to their foundations. SOME of it, not ALL of it.
But just to play devil's advocate here, unless we have seen their financial statements how can we really say this? Every year when I look up charities to donate to on CharityNavigator and similar sites I'm always a little tripped up browsing the financials and seeing their C-class exec making $200k, $300k, etc. But they are fully legal non-profits. Doesn't mean they don't pay their staff (and quite well) or have overhead such as marketing and research. Just means they aren't paying out profit to shareholders and what not. So do we know for sure that Rolex actually spends "profit" on things other than re-investing in the business and the foundation?
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Old 26 September 2021, 12:14 PM   #147
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I don't think I will but nice omega!
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Old 26 September 2021, 12:31 PM   #148
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Old 26 September 2021, 12:38 PM   #149
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I love how is has “ORIGINAL” on the dial… it’s a nice and ironic touch.
I can’t get a response from my favorite AD about getting a Root Beer. I had to take matters into my own hands.
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Old 26 September 2021, 01:33 PM   #150
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I’m lucky in that I’ve enjoyed 20 years of nice experiences with my local ADs. Good luck with your boycott.


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